[Korvalain]

meanas its pretty obvious ur not a townie, so im quite glad to get rid of u!

just dont be an elder....

[Meanas]

BUT ZOMG I'M A TOWNIE YOU MORON!
Works for Liosan, maybe I'll try it too, crying seems effective.

[Barghast]

 Alkend, on 06 October 2010 - 05:36 AM, said:

Actually, in order to at least get something rolling before I leave:

Vote Osseric

Don't see any immediate reason why not, we should have been able to finish a lynch yesterday.

 D, on 06 October 2010 - 07:04 AM, said:

Considering there is at least one cult and possibly a faceless man out there that is still a strangely deathless night. Even if only the marines and the necros have killing roles i am still surprised no one tried to take out korv or meanas. Most FM's though take two nights so we may get and indication of where they were by tonights deaths.

vote meanas

I think him and korv are xeno's and theres a pretty good chance they are faking the jester role.

 Osseric, on 06 October 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:

Well, I am back for a little while, then have meetings all day. I didn't see this coming, or I wouldn't have signed up

Anyway on to game play.... Nice railroad there. I come on to say I won't be around and BAM! all of a sudden I am the "Best lynch" for the day?? BS. I had made 3 posts up to that point and at the point my "Suspicious" post went up, we hadn't even determined it was a human vig. I actually still don't believe that a human would be so stupid as to waste a vig that early day...are you folks forgetting this is TMDI 10 game... day one and you folks are basing your votes on mechanics we know nothing about. Brilliant. Anyway, no hard feelings, just stupid sheep logic. I am looking at you Barghast. but it does bring to light a couple things.. 1 Gaylord is likely not human, nor of the Jester faction, and 2. Among The people at the middle/end of my derailed train there are probably 1-2 scum. With that said:

Vote Gaylord

for being more than likely not of the human persausion. I need to go back to my train again, but the immediate vote at days open by Alkend is also suspicious... way to try for the easy lynch with as little thought as possible.

 Meanas, on 06 October 2010 - 05:01 PM, said:

 Barghast, on 06 October 2010 - 03:53 PM, said:

 Meanas, on 06 October 2010 - 07:40 AM, said:

Repeat something a million times and people will believe it. All I can see there is a couple of people jumping the bandwagon to keep the attention away from themselves. Liosan seems to be leading this, making scraps and bits look like hard evidence. It's a lot of words with proportionally very, very little meaning. The level of annoyance his behaviour triggers makes be suspect him for being Eldar himself.
The first night went through but we still know nothing. Night votes don't seem as interesting anymore.
Bear in mind that nobody dying doesn't mean nothing happened. There's probably quite a few defense mechanisms in play, and several were _possibly_ blown on Night 1.
I think I'm going to lurk a bit today. Talking at all seems to only give scummies plenty to work with.


Also. Korvalain, if you just posted, or if you post within half an hour I'm going to jump off the roof. Anyone this unlucky is better off dead.

Are you kidding me? Why on earth didn't someone kill this guy yesterday? I seriously can't imagine any possible reason for Meanas's behavior other than he's trying to get lynched.

The way you're ready to direct people left and right is amusing. First you direct attention off Galayn Lord, now you're just following that one up, trying to divert attention from what you started yesterday. You smell of xenos.

Vote Barghast

 Alkend, on 06 October 2010 - 06:33 PM, said:

 Osseric, on 06 October 2010 - 06:29 PM, said:

It's not a case on GL thats getting my vote. It's the resistance to a lynch day one thats getting my vote. Are you not reading?

Also, those of you that are assuming that the day one kill was an inno vig, in a TMDI 10 game are being insanely closed minded. I wasn't trying to "out" an inno. IMO the person that would kill 2 hours in to day one ISN'T an inno. Regardless of how the scene reads. we have no clue why/who killed him. You folks that insist that it was an inno vig are unnecessarily putting blinders on yourself that will do nothing but hurt us down the line. That type of tunnel vision does nothing but help scum.

And yeah, I really don't have any argument against that.

Remove Vote

 Liosan, on 07 October 2010 - 12:44 AM, said:

Alkend is there a specfic reason you are attacking barghast over nothing and not voting for him. I say over nothing because after reading that pissing match I have to say it was complete bullshit.

What you seem to have a problem with is that barghast has laid out his ideas. Ideas that can only come into play if we can fucking manage a fucking lynch. So seriously if you think that barghast isn't town then fucking vote for him.

Personally I think that meanas is most definitely not town and I refuse to be held hostage by an fear of lynching wrong when there are 17 fucking people left in the fucking game. Mentalist and Tapper have spent a lot of fucking time making this game. I doubt that it can be broken on the first lynch. As such I am going to vote for the person who I most suspect isn't town.

Vote meanas


Editted cause my phone is a moron

 Alkend, on 07 October 2010 - 05:13 AM, said:

 Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 04:53 AM, said:

It's amusing that I would be less believable after revealing some small information than I would be after revealing nothing, as most of you have done. Of course, I think I have figured out that most of you do believe me, but it's easier to just ignore the person giving a sermon on the street corner rather than pretend you believe him. All good.

That ... almost verges on incoherent.

It certainly makes no sense - if your "revealing some small information" was actually true, revealing it was actually a very bad idea. Which is why I'm inclined to disbelieve - no one comes out and talks about how they know they were subjected to two Night Actions, much less someone who isn't even under serious suspicion, or even subjected to a single vote. You've got no real pressure on you, but you play the "Look, this shows how importantly Inno I am!" card? Without anyone voting for you?

Fuck that static.

Vote Barghast

 Ampelas, on 07 October 2010 - 06:58 AM, said:

To be honest of the three people who seem to be candidates for today I could vote for any. Bargast's play has been very pushy and Alkend raises valid points about his out of nowhere reveal. Why mention that you were targetted at night and imply that knowing you were targetted must make you town? Galayn Lord and Meanas both fit what would be valid playstyle for jester at this point. I'm am starting to think that we should just say fuckit and take the risk. It is early enough in the game that we can afford to mess up. I also dont think we are going to get a faction CF today. Path Shaper has mentioned interference a couple of times and says that it is being caused by one of the xenos. So I think it is likely that the conditions to be met mean we have to lynch someone before we start getting CFs. Maybe guarding the person would also work. With that in mind there is a chance that any xeno CF is going to further paralyse the thread with what if we have already hit eldar type thinking. We are going to have to take some risks. Statistically now is the best day to do so.

vote Bargast

He is probably the safest of the three. I will be around a bit longer now and again before the end of day, I can switch to one of the other two if the momentum moves in that direction.

 Karatallid, on 07 October 2010 - 08:53 AM, said:

Ok after reading up the last page or so im a bit indecisive right now of who i want to lynch off.

Meanas is quite obviously someone with a good role trying not to get lynched by pretending to be a jester. im not entirely sure that his role is xeno but it seems pretty likely.

Galayn Lord had the train sort of derailed off him yesterday, but to be honest at the moment id rather go for Meanas or possibly Bargahst as they strike me as more likely xeno targets.

Bargh im not sure, i had some misgivings about how he seemed to swing the lynch yesterday but i didnt really see a massive problem with his necron analysis as it doesnt seem to far off. His reveals though definiely strike me as scum clutching at straws trying to stall a lynch for as long as possible, there just wasnt really any need for them at the time. Im a bit worried about lynching him in case he's either telling the truth or a jester though.

So right now im going to

Vote Meanas

because he is the one who i am most sure is scum of some kind and probably not eldar.

[Barghast]

 Kalse, on 07 October 2010 - 09:41 AM, said:

Argh, dammit - no, my breakfast was not more than twelve hours long, crap came up and I had to depart the internet realm for a day.

Now it's getting late and I have university tomorrow.

I'm still in favour of a lynch, plain and simple, and Barghast is going to give us info whether he gets NK'd or not. I'd rather let him dangle a bit and see if he comes up with anything else, or simply gets NK'd.

To that effect (and because I won't be on for day's end), I will:

Vote Meanas

In the interests of getting a lynch and removing someone who has received plenty of heat (distracting us from other players), while also playing a damn xeno. At least we should have more than one mis-lynch even if he's Eldar and playing to get lynched. (Remember, the Eldar have two VC's, which means they have to choose which to get. They don't want to get one guy lynched and the rest NK'd, because then they still lose - they want to get them all lynched or avoid all detection. Pretty hard to do both without some serious off-thread comms and epic luck).

I can also understand Barghast's reveal - if you hit someone who is hard to take down, you hit them again, right? Now, that's assuming he got attacked, rather than just recruitment/FM stuff, but hey, if he's alive tomorrow we can lynch him, right?

He also claims to have a power that can protect the town leader from recruitment, and to know said leader. If this is the case, that's great, even if it is a bit of a wild card...the town leader isn't exactly crucial to our victory, though he may have a decent role, of course.

Anyway, I have to get some sleep. Will be back tomorrow, hopefully with more time to carry out a bit of train analysis like I promised.

 Tulas Shorn, on 07 October 2010 - 11:57 AM, said:

And ontop of that he should be gettign allot of attention tonight if he is not lynched....by lynching him you are not only potentially lynching an Elder.
But also you are going to be taking away a decent target for scum. Killers want to also kill the Elders you know.
Why not wait and see if he gets killed in the next night or so...jeez...its not that hard a thing to let happen.

Vote Galayn Lord


There is allot of people that would rather gamble on lynching the main Elder suspect or a revealed player than a person who seemed to have a block on his lynch yesterday.
Ive seen many day one lynch blocks on scum in my time and that fits the bill.
I would rather let night actions take our number one suspect for being Elder and woudl rather see what happens to the person who has revealed putting a big ass sign on his back too.

 D, on 07 October 2010 - 12:13 PM, said:

doh i thought we had six hours left, forgot about the timezone.

remove vote

vote GL

i can change back if meanas looks more likely.

 Meanas, on 07 October 2010 - 12:29 PM, said:

Right. Looks like this might be getting somewhere. To be quite honest, pointing out that Barghast _could_ protect Town Leader from recruitment and that it'd be a bit foolhardy to jump him right now is having some effect on me. The idea is taking root in my head. I was reluctant to leave my vote, but I'm getting more convinced that he's not neccesarily malicious here.
Due to my involvement in being the other candidate, here's this for joining in.

remove vote

Vote Galayn Lord

 Tellan, on 07 October 2010 - 12:39 PM, said:

Vote Barghast

I'm feeling that he has been back peddling ever since he started to get questioned. And the reveal was not a smart play.

I thinking if he was telling the truth, then he has used up any BPs he may have had, and is now a prime target for any xeno action.

So ether way I think he is the best bet for a safe lynch.

 Tellan, on 07 October 2010 - 01:35 PM, said:

 Tulas Shorn, on 07 October 2010 - 01:33 PM, said:

You see.....now the Tellan looks like a player with his own agenda to me.....pfffft

How?

Remove vote

vote Galayn Lord

 Ampelas, on 07 October 2010 - 01:44 PM, said:

I'm back and willing to switch. We're probably going to fall short again, but maybe one or two other people also made a note to get on before day ends.

remove vote

vote Galayn Lord

 Sukul Ankhadu, on 07 October 2010 - 02:30 PM, said:

To be honest, I still don't like the GL lynch.

I also think the whole, Meanas may be eldar ooooohhhh noooooo logic is fail, and when he started gaining votes his train looked like it got derailed. I'd call out Tulas on that one, will take further looking into.

While I believe Meanas is the better choice, I will vote GL because we need this information and this appears to be the most likely lynch. I have classes for the next 5-6 hours so I will not be around, and my vote will not be able to change.

Vote Galayn Lord.

 Galayn Lord, on 07 October 2010 - 02:36 PM, said:

Well at this point obviously i'm not going to vote myself, and there are enough people here indictating that Meanas is the better candidae so I am going to

Vote Meanas

Not sure if we are going to get there or not, but looking at the numbers we would get pretty close.

 Rashan, on 07 October 2010 - 03:04 PM, said:

 D, on 07 October 2010 - 02:55 PM, said:

 Rashan, on 07 October 2010 - 02:50 PM, said:

Sped read the last couple pages after seeing Tapper post that day was ending three hours early, so may have missed abit there, but I see it like this:

I still dislike the Bargy reveal. I'm not bothered much by his xeno priority talk, but don't think his revealing at this point helped anything.

Meanas could easily be Eldar, but just as likely he could be one of the other scum factions.

Voting for Galayn is looking to be the most likely option to get a successful lynch, but has the least basis.

I'm not really a fan of leaving those we think may be scum to be targetted by night actions. I don't have the time to read up now, but I'm willing to bet that some of those suggesting this were the same ones making a big deal of relying on the scum killer faction to help us earlier, which would be a tad hypocritical. In a game with FMs, I think it makes even less sense as there is less information to be gained if the proposed target bites it. Will look back over the page I skimmed before voting.

I think you have time to read it properly.

@liosan - you mind toning it down a bit fella. There really is no need for the over reaction.

Unfortuneately, I have to run.

I think the GL lynch gets us less information than the other options and has less chance of hitting scum than the other two. Of the three I see Meanas as the most likely to be non-town, so he gets my vote.

Vote Meanas

I won't be back before the lynch.

 Karatallid, on 07 October 2010 - 03:11 PM, said:

Ok have skimmed to catch up since im in some pain and not concentrating very well. Looks like were almost out of time and GL seems to be the most likely lynch so since i still think he is likely xeno

Remove Vote
Vote Galayn Lord

because i probably wont check again before day times out

 Barghast, on 07 October 2010 - 03:21 PM, said:

Oh this is interesting.

Vote Meanas

I had a mini-epiphany about why Meanas and Korv didn't die... yesterday, Meanas appeared almost certain to be someone looking to get lynched. Most people agreed if anyone were Eldar, it would be him.

However.... nobody killed him... why you ask? I think I know.

 Korvalain, on 07 October 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

right just read through all that, sorry its atken me so long since my last post

Barghasts reveal was way to fishy for me, something im gonna keep an eye on, he would be my prefered lynch but no where near enough votes

GL....im gonna try to b on when the day ends so i might switch to him if it looks like the only way to get a lynch, but i am at work so sometimes i cant get to the comp when id like to

Vote meanas

meanas has just been standing out as a saw thumb as a xeno, i dont think hes elder ( and with everyone thinking we are connected i really really hope he isnt, or my life expectency will be down to a few seconds )

[Barghast]

I just posted all of the votes and removals... I skimmed from the start of the day for all bold text... hope there weren't any non-bold votes in there.

Time to tally...

[Tulas Shorn]

Ok fuck it.

Ill gamble

Remove vote
Vote Meanas


there are a few others that said they would change so we should get the lynch
I have to go

[Barghast]

Meanas (Liosan, Kalse, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Barghast, Korvalain)
Galayn Lord (Osseric, Tulas Shorn, D'riss, Galayn Lord, Tellan, Ampelas, Sukul Ankhadu, Karatallid)
Barghast (Alkend)

edit: with Tulas's change we have

7 Meanas (Liosan, Kalse, Galayn Lord, Rashan, Barghast, Korvalain, Tulas Shorn)
7 Galayn Lord (Osseric, D'riss, Galayn Lord, Tellan, Ampelas, Sukul Ankhadu, Karatallid)
1 Barghast (Alkend)

1 not voting (Eloth)

This post has been edited by Barghast: 07 October 2010 - 04:09 PM

[Korvalain]

does anyone no for certain, or can ment tell us if we r gonna get a positive id on the lynch? or if its just gotnna say human or xeno?

[Korvalain]

so its 7 for meanas and 7 for gl, alkend do u wanna change ur vote, voteing for barghast isnt achieveing anything? and were still w8ing on eloth

[Barghast]

Korv, if anyone knew for certain, they wouldn't say because they'd probably reveal something about themselves. Ment obviously has told us everything he is going to tell us... dont fish for info, play the game.

[Korvalain]

arnt we supposed to be fishing for info? how else do we find out who is who?

[Barghast]

Fish from players, not mods, you nimrod...

[Alkend]

 Korvalain, on 07 October 2010 - 04:08 PM, said:

does anyone no for certain, or can ment tell us if we r gonna get a positive id on the lynch? or if its just gotnna say human or xeno?

If Meanas gets lynched and comes up town, then he'll have been an idiot for that stupid Night vote, because it means I know exactly why he made it. Stupid. I really hope this is his first game or close to it, if he's town.

If Meanas just comes up "xeno," than I think we've made a huge mistake. If we get a confirmed "Eldar" on Meanas then I KNOW we made a mistake, but at least we'll have some hard info.

[Mentalist]

You dont fish the mods...

[Meanas]

Right. Seeming as this will probably be the last input of mine into the thread, let's recap.
Mistake: voting night on day 1. Everyone's pissed off and the idea of me playing to get lynched appears.
RNG: Me and Korvalain posting twice within a few minutes of each other. Idea of us two being the informed minority appears.
Vote for GL saved in the last couple of hours.
Game goes on, everyone is still convinced I play to get lynched. Nothing I say has any meaning now besides swaying the general idea that I'm not Eldar but a different xeno.
Vote for GL saved again in the last couple of hours.
Let's see the evening scene then.

[Alkend]

Well, it's going to be either Meanas or GL, both of which I think are mistakes.

So, may as well go with the lesser of two stupids:

Remove Vote

Vote Galayn Lord


At least there's a chance he's low lying scum - I just hope it's not an Eldar tactic to get lynched.

[Alkend]

Who wants to hammer?

[Korvalain]

• so if tulas hadnt changed his vote we wuld have a lynch now?

[Mentalist]

Yes

[Liosan]

@ alkend How exactly if meanas comes up xeno have we made a mistake?