[Sukul Ankhadu]

Hey guys, catching up now.

I spent all day yesterday and most of today prepping for an exam, which I rocked. Will be able to contribute more going forward.

[D'riss]

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 09:53 AM, said:

OK back for a bit but likely to be sporadic in posting at the best.

Galayn Lord, on 05 October 2010 - 06:20 AM, said:

Sorry, at work and shit comes up I have to deal with. Managed to catch up now.

Have to say that the Vig is pretty disappointing play. Even if its some sort of forced Day 1 Vig, using it 2 hours into the day is silly stuff.

Lots of other stuff has happened so far as well, a pleasant surprise. Meanas got my attention as I was reading up. Who votes for someone on the suspicion they are a Jester? And then when asked about it decides not to say anything. Normally I'd call that pretty weird, but in this game I'm rather wary of voting someone off. If there are 3 Eldar its only 2 unlucky lynches for us and they win. And Meanas strikes me as a likely Eldar candidate. As the person who he was voting for (was is Olar?). That would presume they know each other of course so its a bit tentative there.

Other thing I like is what Rashan just brought up. I completely missed it on first read of the post from Osseric but I find it strange that someone wants to out people as Town.
Yes there was a Vig and it wasn't a great Vig but it came from the Town so why would you want to try and hunt down who did it? Outing people as Town is just going to put a huge target on their backs during the Night and is completely counter productive.

Be interested to hear from Osseric and Liosan there. Luckily we got oodles of time with the 36 hour days.

When i was looking through just now this post stood out to me slightly inc it does seem to be a lot of pointing out very obvious things and simply shit stirring, so right now if i had to peg anyone as Xeno, i would go for GL.

remove vote
vote Galayn Lord

@kalse - is this the case on GL that you agree with? Thats one of only two posts by GL and certainly doesnt strike me as much.

[Alkend]

I'm really not seeing anything against GL, either.

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Liosan, on 05 October 2010 - 04:53 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 05 October 2010 - 04:28 PM, said:

Well damn meanas just set off all kinds of scum bells with that last post. Not sure if i want to swap my vote yet but that was definitely suspicious so im totally willing to switch to him if need be.

No I was asking myself why someone would vote for night with a. almost 9 hours left in the day b. no real stated reason. It seems to me that the type of person who would do something like that would be either a. Symp or b. a jester type character. In a game like this I doubt if there are traditional symps so that leaves us with.

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iii)Since Eldar are the Warhammer 40k equivalent of elves, and they always cheat, they can ALSO win if 50%+1 of their force is killed in a way other than a modkill or a player kill.

I believe that we might have the privilege to see the first Eldar of the game.

I'm not sure I agree with you since the eldar do not want to die at night. Though recalling my first games, it was an unspoken rule not to vote night cause you would be lynched, and it did happen a few times. So if you mean he is an Eldar in that case, I could see it. I'd like to think we wouldn't fall for that though.

edit: ok, Liosan, you did address this. I agree that we are group prone to lynch.

This post has been edited by Sukul Ankhadu: 05 October 2010 - 08:27 PM

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Barghast, on 05 October 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

If it weren't for those night votes, I'd say the best lynch today is Liosan. He way overreacted to that vig earlier (we all know it was stupid, but way to go for the Oscar, Lio), and he's now asking for some kind of weird justification for Korv's night vote. I find his line of discussion suspicious.

But man, those night votes really get me. I am pretty sure we can't afford to sit around on a non-vote. Yes, we can hit a townie, but if we started anywhere near 50% town and 50% scum (to reprise, my estimate was 8 town 10 scum), then we're certainly at > 50% scum right now.

In Poker, you'd call every single time your odds are greater than 50% of winning the pot. I see no reason why we shouldn't lynch someone and drop the scum.

I agree with this. I am sure that scum outnumbers town at this point, especially with the vig. We might as well call out scummy play and nail em. Probably the best case would have been town starting with 9 people and 9 xeno divided among the 4 factions. Maybe a 3 eldar, 3 chaos, 2 necron, 1 tyranid distribution. Even so, that would mean the numbers are 9 xeno to 8 town. Or by Barghast's count 10 xeno to 7 town. Anyone watch deal or no deal? The cases on the board mean we can't take that deal (in this case night), because we have a better chance of hitting scum than town.

[Korvalain]

fair enough, the only reason i wanted a night vote was cos i wanted night to start b4 my shift ended n i got limited net access, as my shift fins in 15 and theres no chance of having night in time

Remove vote

Vote Galain lord

i dont think theres much evidence against him but at current count he has the most votes, and cos i wont be able to check up as much as id like, ill just go with the current majority

[Alkend]

Korvalain, on 05 October 2010 - 08:48 PM, said:

Remove vote

Vote Galain lord

i dont think theres much evidence against him but at current count he has the most votes, and cos i wont be able to check up as much as id like, ill just go with the current majority

I know it happens about 90% of Day 1s, but I really, really hate that type of "well, it's a train, may as well get on it" voting.



Vote Barghast

That's where my suspicions lie.

[Sukul Ankhadu]

That said, that I think a lynch is good. I do not like any of the cases presented currently.

GL's summary looked like an attempt to contribute but there was some thought in it, but isn't enough imo to warrant a lynch. While a summary is frequently a sign of scum trying to contribute, I'm not sure. Maybe that was all the time he had at work, or he was lying. If it comes to deadline and only a vote or two is needed, or if something else changes between now and then I am ok with placing a vote there, just would prefer not to at the moment.

[Meanas]

Off to sleep now, the results will make for an interesting read in the morning.

[Alkend]

Meanas, on 05 October 2010 - 09:03 PM, said:

Off to sleep now, the results will make for an interesting read in the morning.

Dude ... just stop with that.

[Liosan]

Barghast, on 05 October 2010 - 07:21 PM, said:

I went through Liosan's posts, too. He's got a good number and upon second read, I'm not convinced he's town, but I'm less convinced that he's a good lynch today. He plays with an aggressive style which I know, from past experience, has tended to rub me the wrong way, so I may just have the blinders on a bit.

He's been pretty pivotal in some of the recent arguments and after all of those pieces I've read and posted, my favorite to lynch today is Osseric. Eloth gets a nod just for offering absolutely nothing, and he even came in during a big spat.

Vote Osseric

One question I do have, maybe Lio can clarify the earlier point when he voted Osseric after calling Olar scum

I think that Olar was trying to cover for Osseric at the time. Or at least that is how it seemed to me then. I go with if someone looks like they are attempting to defend someone else or shift attention away from someone else then vote for the person who you were attacking before. Don't get drawn into to the distraction. Stupid JA taught me that the hard way more then once.

[Osseric]

Hey Guys. I am really sorry. I haven't even read the game thread up to this point. I got lambasted at work yesterday and have been going balls to the wall for pretty much 30 hours straight. I hope to be able to jump on tonight for 20 minutes or so to try and catch up but I can't make any promises. Again, really sorry. I did not see this coming. Tomorrow after work I should have plenty of time to catch up and contribute.

[Barghast]

Well I think we're sitting on about... 2 and a half hours left? Be nice to get an official count.

[Barghast]

Alkend, you haven't posted much so I'm finding your suspicions to be somewhat absent from the thread, atm. Is it just because you think I'm a better case than GL? What about the votes on Osseric? No comment there?

[Alkend]

Barghast, on 05 October 2010 - 09:40 PM, said:

Alkend, you haven't posted much so I'm finding your suspicions to be somewhat absent from the thread, atm. Is it just because you think I'm a better case than GL? What about the votes on Osseric? No comment there?

I don't see a real case on GL, and I haven't looked at Osseric all that closely.

I'm not even saying I see a strong case against you - but I'm pretty displeased you played down the Necro threat while insinuating that they could be sort-of allies. It's never good when someone suggests going easy on a faction of scum.

[Path-Shaper]

you do, in fact have about 2 hours and.....30 minutes left

[Alkend]

OK, just reread, and I see the case against Osseric. I don't like that first post of his at all, and don't know how I missed it before.

[Path-Shaper]

17 people are still alive (Alkend, Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss , Eloth, Galayn Lord, Korvalain, Kalse, Karatallid, LIosan, Meanas, Osseric, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

takes 9 votes to lynch, 0r 9 to go to night

2 votes for Osseric (Liosan, Barghast)
4 votes for Galayn Lord (Karatallid, Olar Ethil, Kalse, Korvalain)
2 votes for Barghast (Ampelas, Alkend)
1 vote for night (Meanas)

Some people (8) have not voted (D'riss, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Osseric, Rashan, Sukul Ankhadu, Tellan, Tulas Shorn)

-ment

[Sukul Ankhadu]

Osseric's first post is way too accusatory. Honestly, the killer could have been anyone. Someone who had already posted, or someone lurking around.
He has no way to tell who was the killer and to base it on when someone appeared online is not in good form.

If we were to lynch people who gave odd vibes based on a few posts, I would pick Osseric over GL.

edit: Especially bad, when we've decided that our vig was town. Not the people you'd even want to try outing. Unless you are scum. Or have no idea about the W40K universe and how the scene sets the vig as a member of the imperium.

This post has been edited by Sukul Ankhadu: 05 October 2010 - 10:05 PM

[Alkend]

The only reason I haven't changed my vote is because I've seen a couple of noobs do the whole "trying to figure out who's town, in public" thing a few times, while being Inno, and not understanding how bad it was. And I don't know how many rookies we have.

So I'm going to give it a bit more thought - there's still plenty of time left.