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#1001 User is offline   Alkend 

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:05 PM

View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 05:02 PM, said:

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View PostBarghast, on 13 October 2010 - 04:59 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm gonna say Osseric is 100% Human to start this game... maybe not anymore, but he's definitely Human to start.

Also, looks like we got the lynch.



You might want to think about why I wouldn't vote for Kalse.



Then he was recruited Alk.... he WILL come back Xeno.



Well, that sure sucks.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:07 PM

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View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 05:01 PM, said:

Barghy, just so you know, in case I die tonight, Rashan was definately human at one point. 100% positive. I think he has been recruited though, it's the only explanation for his behavior.


Cute, but don't symp me. I have my own list of who is on what team and it frequently changes, thank you very much. Rashan was not on my list of the few of us Humans remaining. And for the record, neither are you :killingme:



If you really believe that, then humans are screwed. If Kalse really was Alkends leader and was a recruit, why would I out a fellow recruit... that makes no sense.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:09 PM

Right im going too sleep

nite y'all

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:10 PM

Good CF. If Kalse is a leader, Alkend's on his team. Otherwise, Kalse was a recruit.

Lost in this is the unfortunate situation that we are not getting more revealing CFs... maybe certain town players could provide more detailed CFs and they all died =/

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:12 PM

Lets hope Eloth doesn't have anight action, or at least put in a provisional.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:13 PM

View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 05:07 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 13 October 2010 - 05:04 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 05:01 PM, said:

Barghy, just so you know, in case I die tonight, Rashan was definately human at one point. 100% positive. I think he has been recruited though, it's the only explanation for his behavior.


Cute, but don't symp me. I have my own list of who is on what team and it frequently changes, thank you very much. Rashan was not on my list of the few of us Humans remaining. And for the record, neither are you :killingme:



If you really believe that, then humans are screwed. If Kalse really was Alkends leader and was a recruit, why would I out a fellow recruit... that makes no sense.


Well... I dunno. Now I'm doubting myself. Quite possible Kalse and Alkend are Eldar and didn't want to lynch each other... maybe Karat was on their team and thus if Kalse is lynched , Alkend has to try and get lynched now to win?

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:24 PM

Well, that shouldn't be too hard should it.. he should just say he got a disk last night and that someone is xeno -.- thats how I try to get lynched :killingme:

/sarcasm

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:32 PM

Maybe he'll just reveal that he's Flynn from Tron and he's been handing out the disks...

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:36 PM

that gave me a chuckle

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:46 PM

View PostRashan, on 13 October 2010 - 05:18 AM, said:

Well, I will be back before the lynch, but by the time I am I fear it will be a choice between lynching a possible FM and believing Osserc. As I do not believe Osserc this time, and find the Korv case both weak and aimed at the wrong target:

Vote Osserc



Here's a good one. Did anyone see Rashan before the lynch? hmmm? if we want to get a for sure recruit lynched we can always choose you big guy.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

View PostAmpelas, on 13 October 2010 - 06:21 AM, said:

We have Eloth leaning towards an Osseric lynch with no reason or explanation, Rashan being uncharacteristically vocal and ignoring Kalse as a possible lynch option and Kalse squirming a bit. I think it is more than likely that is our cult right there.



I skimmed this post.. but I think someone hit the nail on the head right here.

As I know Rashan started the game human, Eloth as Cult leader looks like a good observation..

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:50 PM

Meh, you can say that about any of the people that voted you and stayed on.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:52 PM

View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 05:50 PM, said:

View PostAmpelas, on 13 October 2010 - 06:21 AM, said:

We have Eloth leaning towards an Osseric lynch with no reason or explanation, Rashan being uncharacteristically vocal and ignoring Kalse as a possible lynch option and Kalse squirming a bit. I think it is more than likely that is our cult right there.



I skimmed this post.. but I think someone hit the nail on the head right here.

As I know Rashan started the game human, Eloth as Cult leader looks like a good observation..


Cult Leader? How about Eloth as Necron? Nobody is talking about it and that thing is still out there, almost certainly. Who better to play Necron than someone almost completely not involved in the game?

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:55 PM

View PostEloth, on 12 October 2010 - 09:16 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 12 October 2010 - 09:11 PM, said:

Osseric over both Kalse and Korv and based on less evidence than either?


I'm not saying i'm going with osseric... Im just saying after my first quick skim I found the arguments on everyone, lacking. So I wanted to see if anyone else had anything on Osseric.



and after reading this.. as well as other posts it seems clear that Eloth was directing people. Though why he never threw a vote is confusing. but certainly after he comes on with this post, Rashan, Kalse and even Alkend jumped on to me. As soon as Eloth posted this, the talk shifted from Korv or Kalse, to Me. My only somewhat defenders were Ampleas, Barghy, and to an extent GL So I am doubting any of them are the Cult leader. AND since Korv was the hammer on Kalse he is unlikely cult as well. By Process of elimination that leaves Eloth or Tellan as Cult leader. Tellen removed his vote, then reapplied to Kalse, even after the Eloth direction. I am going to say that it is probable that Eloth is Cult leader.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 05:59 PM

View PostBarghast, on 13 October 2010 - 05:50 PM, said:

Meh, you can say that about any of the people that voted you and stayed on.



Not really, Alkend almost surely started human, rashan definately started human, Kalse was a xeno recruit. the only other person is gaylord and he jumped over to the Kalse lynch. Now, he could be a dumb recruit and upon realizing I am not eldar have just wanted to vote me... but we don't have any rookies in this group. I can't see anyone voting off their own teammate.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:10 PM

Well... hrm. I guess when the numbers get this low the math starts to work itself out. You are putting the Cult team at Eloth, Kalse, and possibly Alkend and Rashan, too. That means they were very close to winning. The problem is I believe the Chaos aren't doing that well in terms of possessions, and it's likely the Tyranid are doing just as well in terms of recruitment. If they were successful 3 out of 4 nights, that would surprise me.

But by that logic, there are only 6 people. If you're calling yourself Human, then you are basically calling everyone else scum. You have to figure 2-3 Eldar, 1-2 Chaos, 1 Necron are left, which only leaves 1 or maybe 2 Humans. I'm one of em, so are you the other one?

Personally, I think it's 3 Humans right now... but night could easily change that =/

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:11 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 13 October 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

Well i'm back and around now until close to lynch I hope, another long day at work unfortunatly has kept me away again. I don't intentionally low post it was meant to be a good couple weeks at work... but alas is hasn't worked out that way.

I have to say though I think Korv I'm not sure we can sit on the fence and vote Eloth. While I am in favour of lynching a low poster (pot - kettle!) normally I'm not sure now is the right time since today we want to try and lynch right if we possibly can. Its looking like its going to be a split vote at this point and I'm not sure voting Eloth is going to help us here. I don't think we are going to get a lot of people moving to Eloth, and if you vote him and he's human then we are in a horrible position.


Unfortunately I am torn here between the two as well, in a simpler game a vote of Kalse would probably be more likely, but in this set up its much more open. Also the fact the Osseric is even still alive is a bit puzzling, why wouldn't they remove the finder? I mean obviously the disc thing is nonesence no one would believe it, yet he's still alive.
The story is.. i dunno, I find it hard to go along with it as well.

At this point I think I am going to have to.

Vote Osseric











Finally on a reread.. this one blared out. He later switched to a Kalse vote, when he could have gone either way, so I don't think he is cult... but if you are inno are you really trying to out a finder???????? lets read your post again. yup, you are trying to out a finder.

Luckily I am not a finder, and if I die tonight I would hope info is passed on to Barghy as he is the only one i am confident is still human up to this point. Maybe ampleas. anyway, thats besides the point. The point is: This post, in retrospect, looks like someone directing a kill. Read this post again and and put yourself in GL's shoes. If you were inno would you really make this post?

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:12 PM

View PostBarghast, on 13 October 2010 - 06:10 PM, said:


But by that logic, there are only 6 people. If you're calling yourself Human, then you are basically calling everyone else scum. You have to figure 2-3 Eldar, 1-2 Chaos, 1 Necron are left, which only leaves 1 or maybe 2 Humans. I'm one of em, so are you the other one?





I am, but ... well, I obviously have no way of proving it.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:18 PM

View PostOsseric, on 13 October 2010 - 06:11 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on 13 October 2010 - 01:23 PM, said:

Well i'm back and around now until close to lynch I hope, another long day at work unfortunatly has kept me away again. I don't intentionally low post it was meant to be a good couple weeks at work... but alas is hasn't worked out that way.

I have to say though I think Korv I'm not sure we can sit on the fence and vote Eloth. While I am in favour of lynching a low poster (pot - kettle!) normally I'm not sure now is the right time since today we want to try and lynch right if we possibly can. Its looking like its going to be a split vote at this point and I'm not sure voting Eloth is going to help us here. I don't think we are going to get a lot of people moving to Eloth, and if you vote him and he's human then we are in a horrible position.


Unfortunately I am torn here between the two as well, in a simpler game a vote of Kalse would probably be more likely, but in this set up its much more open. Also the fact the Osseric is even still alive is a bit puzzling, why wouldn't they remove the finder? I mean obviously the disc thing is nonesence no one would believe it, yet he's still alive.
The story is.. i dunno, I find it hard to go along with it as well.

At this point I think I am going to have to.

Vote Osseric



Finally on a reread.. this one blared out. He later switched to a Kalse vote, when he could have gone either way, so I don't think he is cult... but if you are inno are you really trying to out a finder???????? lets read your post again. yup, you are trying to out a finder.

Luckily I am not a finder, and if I die tonight I would hope info is passed on to Barghy as he is the only one i am confident is still human up to this point. Maybe ampleas. anyway, thats besides the point. The point is: This post, in retrospect, looks like someone directing a kill. Read this post again and and put yourself in GL's shoes. If you were inno would you really make this post?


When you say stuff like this I get so damned nervous. It's like saying, "Hey, I may die tonight... but leave Bargie alone, he's a good guy," which is exactly what someone would say before they possessed them. I mean... gah, that's totally feasible if you were a Human but taken over by someone and wanted to save your buddy Korv... man I hate this.

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Posted 13 October 2010 - 06:19 PM

View PostBarghast, on 13 October 2010 - 06:10 PM, said:

Well... hrm. I guess when the numbers get this low the math starts to work itself out. You are putting the Cult team at Eloth, Kalse, and possibly Alkend and Rashan, too. That means they were very close to winning. The problem is I believe the Chaos aren't doing that well in terms of possessions, and it's likely the Tyranid are doing just as well in terms of recruitment. If they were successful 3 out of 4 nights, that would surprise me.

But by that logic, there are only 6 people. If you're calling yourself Human, then you are basically calling everyone else scum. You have to figure 2-3 Eldar, 1-2 Chaos, 1 Necron are left, which only leaves 1 or maybe 2 Humans. I'm one of em, so are you the other one?

Personally, I think it's 3 Humans right now... but night could easily change that =/



you are basing your arguments off of numbers you deduced... and using them as canon... thats very dangerous. Maybe Alkend hasn't been turned.. I don't know. that would put the cult very close to winning, so i don't know. maybe there was a bunch of resistance because Kalse was leader.. the disk was unclear. But on rereading it, along with alkends statements, I think Kalse was a recruit. Who else could be cult leader?

You_ nope, started human
me_ nope Human
Rashan_ nope started Human
Alkend_ nope, most likely started human
ampleas_ unknown
Gaylord_ after his failed lynch trains I am thinking more and more that he isn't inno
Eloth_ unknown, my choice for cult lead
Korv_ possible FM, could explain why he was just willing to get the lynch.
Tellan_ Unknown, I don't have any read on him.

Now, this could all be bunk if Karratallid was the cult leader... and we have no info either way if that was the case.

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