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The Heroes by Joe Abercrombie His best one yet

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:39 PM

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In the heart of the North, two great armies are converging on a small valley to hit one another with bits of sharpened metal. The war chiefs and carls under Black Dow prepare to face the might of the Union under Marshal Kroy, tens of thousands of men (and a few women too) ready to kill for, well, for reasons that seemed good at the time but now escape them.

In this war, heroes are needed. Unfortunately, the only heroes around are a bunch of old weathered stones at the top of a hill. Over the course of three blood-drenched days these stones will form the centre of the battle, and the centre of a storm of machinations, conspiracies and hopes for generals, soldiers, murderers and even a crotchety old wizard who has a new invention to test...

The Heroes is the fifth novel by British fantasist Joe Abercrombie, following on from the epic First Law Trilogy and the stand-alone Best Served Cold. The Heroes is another stand-alone, but certainly those who have read the previous books will get a lot more out of it, with minor, almost disposable moments from those earlier books assuming much greater importance here (especially through the successful device of a major POV and a very minor character in Best Served Cold swapping places in The Heroes). Abercrombie seems to be using these stand-alones to set up a new, bigger story further down the road and it will be intriguing to see if this indeed the case.

Back to the present, The Heroes is the first major fantasy release of 2011, and it looks like the new year is already off to a cracking start. The Heroes chronicles a huge battle, one of the largest in history, between the Northmen and the Union, and unfolds in a tight timeline of less than a week (the three days of the battle, plus a few before and a few after). The titular 'Heroes' are a bunch of stones atop a hill in the centre of the battlefield, but there is a lot of wordplay and some interesting commentary on what it means to be a hero, especially given many of the characters' cynicism. Abercrombie has no truck with 'sides' here, and in fact the exact reasons for the war are never entirely spelled out, aside from some hints it might be about territory and others that it might be part of the ongoing cold war between Bayaz and his Gurkish enemies and their respective allies. On both sides there are 'good' (or at least not-as-bad-as-the-rest) guys and bad guys, and the good guys are shown to sometimes do bad things and vice versa (even Black Dow gets a couple of semi-sympathetic moments).

There are several central POV characters. Prince Calder, son of King Bethod whom Black Dow deposed (via Ninefingers) in the trilogy, is a military coward but a born conspirator and strategist (at least in his own mind) who is keen to get his father's throne back. Curnden Craw is a trusted War Chief, a 'straight edge' known for his honesty and his honour, neither of which is doing him much good on the battlefield. Beck is a fresh recruit, the son of a famous Named Man, eager to make his own name on the battlefield. Corporal Tunny is a Union soldier who is the last into the breach and the first into the loot, who has completely perfected the art of making a rout look like a tactical withdrawal. Finree dan Brock, the daughter of Marshal Kroy, is eager to regain her husband's honour and fortune after his father betrayed the Union in war. Finally, Bremer dan Gorst, the former bodyguard of the King disgraced after failing to protect the royal personage during an incident in Styria, is keen for revenge and redemption.

These stories entwine around one another, with other characters popping into the story (Bayaz, First of the Magi, is bemusingly interested in the battle, whilst Caul Shivers and the Dogman have their parts to play) as it unfolds. This is a book less about the over-arching plot, which is somewhat vague and will possibly become clearer in future books, than it is about the characters and the changes they go through as a result of the battle and the politics surrounding it.

So this is a character-focused epic war story, if that isn't a contradiction in terms. The battle and mayhem are depicted with all the blood, swearing, cynicism and involuntary bowel movements we have come to expect from Abercrombie. Despite the author's scepticism over maps, we get a nice series of illustrations depicting the battlefield as it changes from day to day, which helps visualise the various locations and their relationships to one another. The worldbuilding also steps up a notch, with a sense of time passing (it's nearly a decade since the start of the trilogy at this point) and even some technological (and culinary) evolution and innovation. There's also the continued sense of a stormcloud over the horizon as Bayaz and his enemies continue to skirmish with one another, using proxies to fight on their behalf until some future conflagration is unleashed in full force.

Criticisms? Well, Abercrombie is evolving as a writer, developing a more varied prose style with some nice descriptive touches (even if they are being applied to a soldier's first encounter with the horror of field latrines), but he isn't exactly turning into China Mieville here. If you didn't like the previous four books, there's nothing in The Heroes that will change your mind. However, the improvements and the tighter focus may sway those more on the fence about the earlier books. Fans of the earlier books keen for more information about certain characters from earlier volumes may also be disappointed by the lack of overt information given here on their fates (although there is a whisper of an interesting clue of a possibility that is tantalising). Oh, and disappointingly/thankfully (delete as appropriate) Abercrombie has failed to include one of his trademark terrible sex scenes.

The Heroes (*****) is Joe Abercrombie doing what he does best but better than ever before: gritty, violent, morally ambiguous and darkly funny fantasy with a streak of intelligent cynicism. The book will be published on 20 January 2011 in the UK and 7 February 2011 in the USA.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 10:46 PM

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Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:11 PM

Looks good, one of many books coming out next year that I am looking forward to. With the inclusion of Shivers, does the story take place before or after events in Best Served Cold ?
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:13 PM

Is Caul Shivers the same Shivers from BSC? I think it is, but it has been a while since i read that book.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:22 PM

View PostH.D., on 29 September 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:

Is Caul Shivers the same Shivers from BSC? I think it is, but it has been a while since i read that book.


Yeh i'm pretty sure it is although to be fair I could be wrong as I also read it a while ago. I'm wondering if it is the events of The Heroes that led him to leave and eventually join up with Murcatto or if what takes place in The Heroes happens after he leaves Styria.
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:25 PM

View Postmasan, on 29 September 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

View PostH.D., on 29 September 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:

Is Caul Shivers the same Shivers from BSC? I think it is, but it has been a while since i read that book.


Yeh i'm pretty sure it is although to be fair I could be wrong as I also read it a while ago. I'm wondering if it is the events of The Heroes that led him to leave and eventually join up with Murcatto or if what takes place in The Heroes happens after he leaves Styria.


Considering the bodyguard POV it has to be post BSC.
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 29 September 2010 - 11:39 PM

Aha well spotted HD, I remember the bit in BSC you are on about.
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Posted 30 September 2010 - 12:09 AM

Excellent. This one is probably my most anticipated book. "BsC" blew my socks off. Just fantastic.
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Posted 30 September 2010 - 08:22 AM

Mmm...Black Dow, plenty of characters...Caul Shivers...I like it...:)
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Posted 30 September 2010 - 01:28 PM

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...In the heart of the North, two great armies are converging on a small valley to hit one another with bits of sharpened metal."


Best Wert opening review line ever.

View PostIlluyankas, on 29 September 2010 - 10:46 PM, said:

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Caul Shivers

BOUGHT LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER


SECONDED LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER!

View PostH.D., on 29 September 2010 - 11:25 PM, said:

View Postmasan, on 29 September 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

View PostH.D., on 29 September 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:

Is Caul Shivers the same Shivers from BSC? I think it is, but it has been a while since i read that book.


Yeh i'm pretty sure it is although to be fair I could be wrong as I also read it a while ago. I'm wondering if it is the events of The Heroes that led him to leave and eventually join up with Murcatto or if what takes place in The Heroes happens after he leaves Styria.


Considering the bodyguard POV it has to be post BSC.


Yep.

View PostRodeoRanch, on 30 September 2010 - 12:09 AM, said:

Excellent. This one is probably my most anticipated book. "BsC" blew my socks off. Just fantastic.


And how. My favourite book from last year that wasn't DoD. JA really hit a new height with that book and moved himself from my 'must buy' to my 'pre-order' list.
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Posted 01 October 2010 - 05:21 PM

Can't wait. Meanwhile, there's a nice short story from the North in

http://www.amazon.co...85953579&sr=8-1

too (lots of other nice stories there too).
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 06:42 PM

Yeah, FOOL JOBS the short story concerning some of thew characters from the forthcoming THE HEROES just absolutely BLEW me away. Abercrombie just keeps trumping himself, and even a little short story he writes becomes the best goddamned thing about that whole anthology.

Love it, and CANNOT WAIT for THE HEROES.

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 01:56 AM

So it's out now and I've got to agree with Wert, it's his best yet. Lacks the epic scale of Last Argument but has more sophistication in both structure and prose. It's his first book where his mannerisms didn't grate on me even a little, and he skillfully manages to avoid making the teetering and back-and-forthing repetitive.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 03:01 AM

Swallowing sour spit by page 15? Is that a new record?
Hello, soldiers, look at your mage, now back to me, now back at your mage, now back to me. Sadly, he isn’t me, but if he stopped being an unascended mortal and switched to Sole Spice, he could smell like he’s me. Look down, back up, where are you? You’re in a warren with the High Mage your cadre mage could smell like. What’s in your hand, back at me. I have it, it’s an acorn with two gates to that realm you love. Look again, the acorn is now otataral. Anything is possible when your mage smells like Sole Spice and not a Bole brother. I’m on a quorl.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 09:11 PM

Well, I finished this one up several weeks ago, but I've finally gotten around to finishing up my review. It's a great book and the best Abercrombie has written yet. Below is an excerpt from my review.

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Subversion is one of the favorite catch words in fantasy these days – right behind gritty. Both words find themselves use routinely in reviews of Abercrombie’s work and deservedly so. Forget gritty – for an Abercrombie book it’s kind of like saying the sky is blue. But subversion – this is where Abercrombie’s writing really sets him apart. A key component of so much of the fantasy genre is heroism. And it may be this very key component that makes fantasy so appealing to read – after all, Western society loves the hero. Forgetting entertainment (which could go on forever), think of how quick society is to label someone a hero – be it a war hero, someone who rescues a baby from a burning home, a child battling cancer, etc. Hell, our society is so fascinated by heroes that it came up with the idea of superheroes. In The Heroes, Abercrombie uses a classic war novel in a fantasy setting to explore the idea of heroism. As one would expect, Abercrombie takes a deeply cynical and ironic view of heroism, but never a simplistic one.

One of the issues I have with Best Served Cold is that it is too dark, too cynical, and simply over does the lack of redemption in revenge. The characters were well done, just not likeable enough to truly enjoy the book. In The Heroes Abercrombie rediscovers that balance between levity and cynicism that made The First Law so much fun while it depressingly dismantles the ideal of epic fantasy. The Heroes is dark, it’s gory, it’s futile, yet it’s entertaining – a near-impossible balance to achieve, yet so important for success in a genre dominated by escapist reading.
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Posted 07 February 2011 - 10:33 AM

thought the book was fantastic. every character was engaging and a pleasure to read. There wasnt one character (apart that old prick bayaz) who was not heavily layered and suprisingly complex. Everyone from the lowest of the low to the great named men of the north was given their time and worth (gorst was by far my favourite character). One notable absentee was disappointing but the whole novel just worked remarkably well.
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