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Deck of Dragons Collecting descriptions for a 'complete' deck
#1
Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:12 AM
So here is the deal: I want to make a complete Deck of Dragons.
I want to make an electronic collection, eventually I may even try my hand at making actual wooden cards. My basic idea is to create images that have the feel of the Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot deck. All of that is in the future. Before I can even begin I will need accurate descriptions of the cards.
Here is where I need your help. I need descriptions of the cards. There are a lot, and they are scattered through the novels. Anyone that has electronic editions of the book, please search through them and find me descriptions. Anyone that is reading the novels through and happens to come across a description, give me the page number. Anything you can do to help me collect descriptions would be stellar.
Once I have some descriptions, I'll begin arting it up. You all will be the first to see them when they are completed.
Thanks!
I want to make an electronic collection, eventually I may even try my hand at making actual wooden cards. My basic idea is to create images that have the feel of the Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot deck. All of that is in the future. Before I can even begin I will need accurate descriptions of the cards.
Here is where I need your help. I need descriptions of the cards. There are a lot, and they are scattered through the novels. Anyone that has electronic editions of the book, please search through them and find me descriptions. Anyone that is reading the novels through and happens to come across a description, give me the page number. Anything you can do to help me collect descriptions would be stellar.
Once I have some descriptions, I'll begin arting it up. You all will be the first to see them when they are completed.
Thanks!
#2
Posted 29 September 2010 - 02:32 AM
The Bonehunters, Chapter 18, page 877 of US paperback. Fiddler talks with Gesler and some others on the Silanda about some new additions to the deck, including the House of War. There's also his reading later in the book, when I get to that I'll give you the page.
Some other readings off the top of my head:
Tattersail does it a few times in Gardens.
Kalam's accidental reading in Deadhouse Gates, when he knocks the cards from some lady's hand. I believe it happens sometime after he hands the book to Sha'ik, there's a sandstorm and he enters somewhere to take shelter.
I can't remember if the imperfect cards that one guy makes in Memories of Ice for CG are ever described.
Fiddler's reading about 100 pages into Dust of Dreams.
Hopefully this helps a little.
Some other readings off the top of my head:
Tattersail does it a few times in Gardens.
Kalam's accidental reading in Deadhouse Gates, when he knocks the cards from some lady's hand. I believe it happens sometime after he hands the book to Sha'ik, there's a sandstorm and he enters somewhere to take shelter.
I can't remember if the imperfect cards that one guy makes in Memories of Ice for CG are ever described.
Fiddler's reading about 100 pages into Dust of Dreams.
Hopefully this helps a little.
This post has been edited by Defiance: 29 September 2010 - 02:34 AM
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#4
Posted 30 September 2010 - 08:57 AM
Thanks Harvester, I enjoyed all of them. Does the reading from the DoD get discussed in depth anywhere? All the other reading point to what is going to happen, very vaguely but after reading on they become clear.
Apt is the only one who reads this. Apt is nice.
#5
Posted 30 September 2010 - 11:09 AM
The master of the Deck is described quite well in HoC.
Pg. 465,466 UK Bantam
That's pretty much it... there may be a bit more, but those are the most important...
Edit: I hope it helps...
Pg. 465,466 UK Bantam
Quote
The face is obscured......
...The figure is slightly above average in height. There is the crimson streak of a scar -- or blood perhaps -- down one side of the face -- a wounding, yes? He -- yes, I am certain it's a man, not a woman -- he stands on a bridge. Of stone, shot through with cracks. The horizon is filled with flames. It seems he and the bridge are surrounded, as if by followers, or servants --
Or guardians...
...Guardians. Yes, a good possibility. They have the look of soldiers...
... {they stand on} Bones -- there is much fine detail there...
...{describe the bones} Not human. Very large. Part of a skull is visible, long-snouted, terribly fanged. It bears the remnants of a helmet of some sort--
A helmet? On the skull?
Yes...
...The Master, he stands strangely. Arms held out, br=ent at the elbows so that the hands depend, away from the body -- it is the strangest posture--
Are his feet together?
Almost impossibly so....
{What does he wear} ...Tight silks, from the way they shimmer. Black.
{Anything else} ... There is a chain. It cuts across his torso, left shoulder down to right hip. It is a robust chain, black wrought iron. There are wooden discs on his shoulders -- like epaulets, but large, a hand's span each--
{how many in all} Four....
...The figure is slightly above average in height. There is the crimson streak of a scar -- or blood perhaps -- down one side of the face -- a wounding, yes? He -- yes, I am certain it's a man, not a woman -- he stands on a bridge. Of stone, shot through with cracks. The horizon is filled with flames. It seems he and the bridge are surrounded, as if by followers, or servants --
Or guardians...
...Guardians. Yes, a good possibility. They have the look of soldiers...
... {they stand on} Bones -- there is much fine detail there...
...{describe the bones} Not human. Very large. Part of a skull is visible, long-snouted, terribly fanged. It bears the remnants of a helmet of some sort--
A helmet? On the skull?
Yes...
...The Master, he stands strangely. Arms held out, br=ent at the elbows so that the hands depend, away from the body -- it is the strangest posture--
Are his feet together?
Almost impossibly so....
{What does he wear} ...Tight silks, from the way they shimmer. Black.
{Anything else} ... There is a chain. It cuts across his torso, left shoulder down to right hip. It is a robust chain, black wrought iron. There are wooden discs on his shoulders -- like epaulets, but large, a hand's span each--
{how many in all} Four....
That's pretty much it... there may be a bit more, but those are the most important...
Edit: I hope it helps...
This post has been edited by KingTeholBeddict: 30 September 2010 - 11:10 AM
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#6
Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:45 AM
Oh, you guys are great! I'll get started on this stuff next week and and will keep you posted.
This might take a while.
This might take a while.
#7
Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:48 AM
One thing that would be also really good are descriptions of the ascendants that are associated with the cards. I figure only the ones that are definite and fairly set through the series, like The Rope, Shadowthrone, Anomander Rake, Paran, etc...
#8
Posted 03 October 2010 - 03:29 AM
Thats the thing though, the acendants and the cards representing them don't nessicairly look the same, more like symbols representing them. (Pretty vauge memory here beeing 5.30 in the morning and all.. but wasn't Rakes card described as litterary being half tiste, half dragon somewhere?)
Anyway, can't really help with page numbers or anything right now, reading another series atm and my books are in a box. (joys of getting ready to move.. packing) But I look forward to seeing this project of yours.
Anyway, can't really help with page numbers or anything right now, reading another series atm and my books are in a box. (joys of getting ready to move.. packing) But I look forward to seeing this project of yours.

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#9
Posted 04 October 2010 - 03:24 PM
It does seem like the descriptions of the cards that we get vary with the degree of Adepthood of the reader. Tattersail got a lot more detail from her cards, and seemed to expect them to vary per reading.
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#10
Posted 04 October 2010 - 05:39 PM
NikitaDarkstar, on 03 October 2010 - 03:29 AM, said:
Thats the thing though, the acendants and the cards representing them don't nessicairly look the same, more like symbols representing them. (Pretty vauge memory here beeing 5.30 in the morning and all.. but wasn't Rakes card described as litterary being half tiste, half dragon somewhere?)
Anyway, can't really help with page numbers or anything right now, reading another series atm and my books are in a box. (joys of getting ready to move.. packing) But I look forward to seeing this project of yours.
Anyway, can't really help with page numbers or anything right now, reading another series atm and my books are in a box. (joys of getting ready to move.. packing) But I look forward to seeing this project of yours.

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#11
Posted 21 November 2010 - 10:13 PM
::nod:: Rake's card is described in depth in two occasions in GotM. His upper half is Tiste Andii, hoisting Dragnipur behind one shoulder with chains of black smoke drifting off into the night. Moon's Spawn (presumably it's Moon's Spawn - it's just described as a floating edifice) hovers in the background. The lower half of his body is draconic.
To the OP, I absolutely love this idea. There's absolutely no way to say this without sounding pretentious, so I just will: I wrote a few papers and spent some time studying Tarot - specifically the Rider deck, and from a completely academic stance, - and I have a pretty extensive collection (12+ decks) of other versions, just as a curious collector. If you're drawing your inspiration from there (as I believe SE did when he created the Deck) I'd be happy to help.
To the OP, I absolutely love this idea. There's absolutely no way to say this without sounding pretentious, so I just will: I wrote a few papers and spent some time studying Tarot - specifically the Rider deck, and from a completely academic stance, - and I have a pretty extensive collection (12+ decks) of other versions, just as a curious collector. If you're drawing your inspiration from there (as I believe SE did when he created the Deck) I'd be happy to help.
#12
Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:11 AM
little problem guys. The positions in the deck are replaced a lot when people die, (example: knight of death)
So you'd need to choose one time in the series where this deck will take place.
Please send me a link once the deck's done!
So you'd need to choose one time in the series where this deck will take place.
Please send me a link once the deck's done!
"The red ink had been watered down. He painted wash on the map, covering areas now held by the Malazan Empire. Fully one half of the map...the north half...was red. Baruk jumped, his right forearm jerking out and knocking over the inkwell. The red ink poured across his map. Cursing, Baruk sat back. His eyes widened as he watched the spreading stain over Darujhistan and continue south to Catlin..."
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