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cheaters

- alt
- shin

Chip count (start of day 2)

silencer - 21 (2 bet, 1 kill pb, 1 sp, 1 dealer - 14 from pb kill, 7 from lynch bet)
alt - 16 (6 spent, 14 won)
hd - 11 9one on delaer chip, 7 from lynch)
tapper - 21 (1 spent, 1 gained by lynch, 5 dealer pot )
shin - 8 dealer lynched day 2
veng bent - 5


Chip count (day 2 onward)


alt - 71 (1 for self - 3 kill + 15 + 16 +28)
veng bent - 24
hd - 11 (one on SP)


tapper - 28 (1 for SP, 2 bet +8, -3 + 16)
silencer - 19 (1 for self, 1 for dealer)
shin - 0 (3 to kill, 5 to bet)
grief - 5 lynched
PB - 27 (kill bent, self protect) (2 spent, 14 from bent kill, 10 from lynch)
Bent - 14 (one on dealer chip, 10 from lynch) killed by pb

Dealer - ??

CARD DRAW for DAY 2 DEALER Chip from http://www.random.org/playing-cards/

5 diamonds
2 diamonds
ace of spades
3 of clubs
2 of clubs

in order
alt - (6 diamonds + 8 hearts) Pair
tapper - (3 clubs + 4 spades) straight *
bent - (7 hearts, 8 clubs) pair
hd - (ace clubs, queen clubs) 2 pair
silencer - (4 diamonds + 7 Diamonds) straight

CARD DRAW for DAY 2 DEALER Chip from http://www.random.org/playing-cards/

Four of Spades
Ace of Spades
Seven of Diamonds
Ace of Clubs
Five of Hearts

in order :-
silencer - Seven of Clubs, King of Clubs (2 pair with king high)lynched
tapper - Seven of Spades Four of Clubs (two pair) killed night 2
bent - Queen of Spades, Nine of Diamonds

NIGHT 1 Actions

alt - 2 chips to kill PB, 2 to bet on PB nk, 1 for dealer, 1 protect self (6)
shin - too late - no action
hd - dealer chip (1)
grief - protect self lynched
silencer - 1 chip to kill PB, 1 for dealer, 1 for self protect (3)
tapper - dealer chip (1)
veng - too late - no action
Bent - dealer chip (1)
pb - kill bent, self protect (2)

NIGHT 2 Actions

BP alt - 1 for self protect, 3 to kill tapper, 5 bet on tapper death
shin - 3 to kill hd, 5 bet on it. dead
hd -
BP silencer - thats 1 for self protection and 1 for dealer chip lynched
tapper - 1, poker, 1 fpr self protection, 3 bet on silencer lynch
veng bent - 1 for poker

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 30 September 2010 - 01:29 PM

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cheater role

you cheating swine - an honest game of death and you want to stack your coins high eh.

well each night you can load your nk with more than one chip if you want and bet on them too unlike those ordinary people. just pm me with your nk target and how much you want to spend or bet.

eg

i want to spend 2 chips killing XXXX and i bet you two chips it goes through.

The other cheater is XXX.

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alt146, on 28 September 2010 - 08:03 AM, said:

Scum again... lol

Are we starting at night or do the card things only start tomorrow? Can you TL;DR the difference between 7 card stud and Texas Holdem, I haven't played stud before. Does loading my bet make my NK more powerful? Or will I still be blocked by people protecting themselves if they spend a chip?

I assume spent chips aren't recovered, so we need to make bets to get them back? And the betting pool is different from the pot that is played for?

Path-Shaper, on 28 September 2010 - 08:13 AM, said:

the pot is only for the dealer chip money so is one chip from every participating player.

betting is against the mod so seperate.

7 stud is texas holdem. so everyone must send two cards to me along with there chip and then i pick 5 from random.org to make up the hand.

loading your nk increases its affectiveness. if a player protects themselves it blocks only a single nk. with multiple chips spent on the nk you can bypass protection but risk them being healed by another player. Also if someone else attacks the player as well you may find the money returned less than the money spent which in this game will be bad.

alt146, on 28 September 2010 - 08:21 AM, said:

Ok, then one chip in the pot, Aces of hearts and diamonds please. (that is how this works right?)

2 spend two chips to kill HMQB, one chip to protect myself and I bet two chips my kill on HMQB goes through.

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nice start from alt if his nk goes through he could take a big leap in chips. of course a lynch could finish him at any time. in fact only hand that can beat him is 2 twos

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 September 2010 - 08:40 AM

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Tapper, on 28 September 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 September 2010 - 10:23 AM, said:

you get dealt, 3 clubs + 4 spades

awesome. bring on the straight.

igmeou tapper

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Bent, on 28 September 2010 - 02:39 PM, said:

I put one chip in the pot to get a kill and one chip in the pot to protect myself.

If I understand correctly I also need to put a chip in to " ante " so I can play the hand I will get dealt. If so do this, if not , call me an idiot and. Don't do this, lol.

Ps alt is scum and so is venge. Based on their first posts.

Also, do I need to tell you my target for the kill now or will I have to wait until after night one? And if I use 2 chips can I get 2 kills? And if I use 2 chips can I protect myself from 2 nk attempts?

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my response


ok you can put one chip down to ante in for the dealer chip tomorrow. you get those cards back now (7 hearts, 8 clubs)

you can spend one to protect yourself and it only stops one nk or one dealer type lynch.

you can only spend one on either a nk, heal or guard. send me your night actions when you have decided.

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hd

H.D., on 28 September 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

I want to place a chip for the two hole cards and a chip for a find.

No chip for protection. Who the fuck wants to kill small-time me?

H.D., on 28 September 2010 - 05:47 PM, said:

Switch that "Find" chip to a "Vig" chip please.

waiting for a target

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H.D., on 28 September 2010 - 08:16 PM, said:

Sweet. Take back the vig. Chip will still be used on a Find on Shinrei.

ouch both cheaters targetted day 1.

@silecner - the point is to win the most coins - the scum know each other and are playing against one another so although they have some advantages they also have a lot of motivation to backstab which should help the "innos later one.

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H.D., on 28 September 2010 - 08:19 PM, said:

I'm a moran. Save chip, please. No action tonight.

Ace Queen suited gives me a good shot at vig-lynch tomorrow if I get it.

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grief

Grief, on 28 September 2010 - 11:22 PM, said:

Provisionally protect myself.

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Shinrei, on 29 September 2010 - 02:40 AM, said:

Since killing someone gives me a share in their chips, it makes sense to me to try to kill the other cheater, since alt146 starts with more chips than anyone else.

Considering your example...does spending 2 chips make the kill stronger than spending one? Otherwise I don't quite understand what spending the extra chip would do.

Also, your example is "2 chips", but the way it's worded implies I could spend ALL my chips if I wanted to.

So...could I say: "I spend all 8 chips on to kill drinksinbars and I bet you 8 chips that it succeeds." ???

that would require 16 chips. but yes as a cheater you can attack another player with more than one chip and so defeat any self protection they have placed. you have to ensure they do not receive a heal though or that would mean more chips needed to spend. also you do not get the coins spent back, so i you spend 4 on alt those four are gone. you will receive his in return if only you attack him.

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alt146, on 29 September 2010 - 08:31 AM, said:

Nah, I think leave it on PB. I assume there are no provisionals in this game? At what point exactly do my chips get 'spent'. Ie, with all my actions currently submitted, how many chips do I have to bet with on thread? Do I at this exact moment have two or eight?

as soon as an action is in that coin is spent. alt has 2 left

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Silencer, on 29 September 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

Am I right in reading your first post that we can spend a maximum of two chips each night? One on a kill/guard/heal and one on a protection? Or is it an either/or thing?

Also, getting bad vibes off PB.

So, with my fives chips, tonight, I would like to pay one chip into the pot (to try and get dealer), pay one chip to kill PB, and pay one chip to protect myself, leaving me two chips.

Now, if that's right, I'd like to do that. Otherwise I would prefer to forgo the protection and take the kill tonight, leaving me with three chips.

Let me know which one is correct, please.

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Peanutbutta, on 29 September 2010 - 11:26 PM, said:

Kill - Bent
NK/Insta-Lynch Protection - Self

Screw being the dealer, that gig looks dangerous.

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Vengeance, on 29 September 2010 - 09:27 PM, said:

I can use one of my chips tonight to kill someone...say Tapper.. and if I manage to kill them then i get there chips... Yes???

So basically I can either play defense or go all out and play ballsy.... When I have played poker I wasn't a very good defensive player and so... I will be putting a kill order in tonight. But on whom....

Oh you don't give out chip counts at the start of the new day do you...never mind that would just give the scum away on day 2 if there wasn't any deaths during the night. How do I do this and still keep enough chips to continue playing if I mess up tonight. Obviously I am going to have to spend a chip on protecting myself. But as I see it the only way to make sure that you have more chips then the cheaters is to kill another player take there chips and then bluff and protect yourself for the rest of the game. It is best to make this attempt early in the game rather then at the tail end of it when everyone will be expecting it. Ever since the meet up I have a feeling that the other players have lost respect for me cause I am a nice guy in real life. Well a little bit of backstabbing and out right lying should gather that respect right back up. Who to kill that is the question???

Of course if there is a lynch then I will bet a couple of coins on the person and gather some more in just so that it looks like I not going to kill people. Do I kill tapper cause he knows me to well, or perhaps Alt because nobody would be expecting it and I could perhaps make it look like Bent struck him. Ohhh I like that especially if neither one gets lynched today...I do that scenario either way. Hmmmm.... Silencer might be another good one, or PB...They are both to smart for their own good. Hmmmm... Really I should be able to kill 5 people or at least attempt it. Honestly I might only get 1 or 3...

Right now I really don't care about the cheaters. They are immaterial to how I am going to play the game. All they mean is that you can't sit back and be defensive in the early play.

Vengeance, on 30 September 2010 - 03:00 AM, said:

I would like to spend a coin to kill Bent.
I would also like to spend a coin to keep myself alive

that action looks out of time i am afriad vengy.

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Shinrei, on 30 September 2010 - 03:33 AM, said:

I would like to spend 2 chips on killing Tapper, and I bet 2 chips that it goes through.

If it's not too late to enter the game, I'll enter the card game two, betting a single chip.

thats too late as well lynch was at 3.26 - this is an hour later

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Silencer, on 30 September 2010 - 07:43 AM, said:

Blimey. So that's like...the lynch chips (five over five = 1) plus the two I bet, plus the doubled bet four, gives me 7, and the two I had, 9.

Then I get PB's chips...he bet 3, had two left, got 6 back, plus one from the lynch, that's 12? Sweet. Assuming he took no night action, lol.

Alas, that would indicate that he wasn't a cheater. Someone is presumably in a position similar to me now...I have plenty of chips, but I certainly don't want to advertise it! So I won't be betting lots today. Probably only two chips again. Otherwise I become a massive NK target.

This reminds me of Headhunter in Halo: Reach, except without the giant numbers of your head, lol.

I would also like to submit that, regardless of any future Night actions, I would like to spend one chip tonight on my own protection again, thanks.

(I assume you would tell me if my protection had been taken down? At least Tapper can't buttfuck me in one shot, if that's the case )

Silencer, on 30 September 2010 - 07:45 AM, said:

Oh, and I would like to submit my entry for contesting the dealer chip tomorrow, too, please. Plenty of chips to throw around and not much incentive to hold onto them *too* tightly, lol.

thats 1 for self protection and 1 for dealer chip

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Silencer, on 30 September 2010 - 08:26 AM, said:

Thanks.

Hrm, flush, two pair, or high pair. Decent chance of getting something out of that...whether it will be the winning hand or not is a bit more iffy.

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Tapper, on 30 September 2010 - 08:39 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 30 September 2010 - 07:38 AM, said:

you now have ten. and the dealer chip as well use it wisely. to use it simply pm me or announce on thread

Cheers.
I will refrain from using the dealer chip for now - don't want to announce anything that might make me a juicy target for others.

I will use one chip to protect myself from kills tonight, please.
I will not play poker today.