[WhiskeyJackDaniels]

H.D., on 28 October 2010 - 07:47 PM, said:

Or you should infer that that was well known and thus not a "wild card"ish idea. One of the two. Backstory would be nice, but so little to do and so much time in TCG.

*Every time I see the thread title, I think of Charlie from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Well I figured it was well know, I didn't post it originally as a theory. My problem is that everytime Hetan posts something (especially in say THIS forum) I can't stop and think of how she's read it already.

Not that I don't trust Hetan to not give away spoilers, its just like this aura that surrounds the post and begs me to do extra analysis.

[Zendog13]

You do realize that SE is the wildest of wild cards here no?

[Pig Iron]

I think the millions of CG believers in the Jade Giants might be used as some form of Deus ex Machina (faith = god power). Very loosely, Tavore might free tCG who will end up saving the day (= world from destruction) with Jade Giant power. I wouldnt be too happy with that ending, but it's a candidate.

[PutCashIn]

Sorry, extreme newbieism here, didn't read the last 2 pages so apologies if this has been covered....

But didnt Dust of Dreams have a bit about Icarium forming a Gate blocking structure using a Sky Keep and *himself* as the finnest/seed ? I think I remember reading 'it will grow alone, but use the host for some time unitll its established' or something to that effect.

Which would imply no available Icarium action for some time...unless the finnest was the Drone/Young Matron or the souls Icarium brought through the broken 'Time/Warren' machine with him.

Does anyone have a better understanding of just what happened when the Short Tails gate was blocked...?

[Tattersail_]

wildcards, so this is who may appear in tCG that we don't actually think will appear but could? well a few characters from Stonewielder could appear, not spoilering anything but what are everyones thoughts on this?

[Ceda Cicero]

PutCashIn, on 10 December 2010 - 08:35 AM, said:

Sorry, extreme newbieism here, didn't read the last 2 pages so apologies if this has been covered....

But didnt Dust of Dreams have a bit about Icarium forming a Gate blocking structure using a Sky Keep and *himself* as the finnest/seed ? I think I remember reading 'it will grow alone, but use the host for some time unitll its established' or something to that effect.

Which would imply no available Icarium action for some time...unless the finnest was the Drone/Young Matron or the souls Icarium brought through the broken 'Time/Warren' machine with him.

Does anyone have a better understanding of just what happened when the Short Tails gate was blocked...?

Icarium received the Errant's eye from Feather Witch and transformed it into a Finnest, which he used to seal the gate created by the KCNR. At the conclusion of this episode, Sinn tells Gesler that she cannot sense Icarium in the Azath, and that he has departed. It's open to speculation, but my guess is Icarium is neither dead or Azath-ed, and that we'll see him playing a significant role in tCG. And yes, he is definitely a wildcard, especially since he holds the position of Lifestealer opposite the Crippled God in the Deck.

[Theotendo]

If Icarium tried to duplicate what K'rul did to form the warrens,his corporeal self may have been subsumed in order to manifest the structure of the new warrens.This process left K'rul with a limited physical manifestation (more so after his followers died out re: GoTM).It may be safe to assume that it'll take a while for him to reclaim his physical form.Again.

[MTS]

I dunno, K'rul's physical form in the MoI prologue doesn't seem so limited. But I agree with your main point, that we might not see Iccy in the flesh for a bit. Or maybe we will, these new warrens seem brimming with power. Who knows? Other than those bastard advance readers of course!

[T'renn]

Stonewielder gave some nice pointers

Spoiler

Maybe we'll get Kiska, Leoman and even... Tayschrenn over. They might be at the first shore

[MTS]

Imperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 28 December 2010 - 09:55 AM, said:

Stonewielder gave some nice pointers

Spoiler

Maybe we'll get Kiska, Leoman and even... Tayschrenn over. They might be at the first shore

It also gave us a great insight into Shadowthrone's philosophy:

Spoiler

Quote

‘Ussü,’ Kellanved had said, ‘I will tell you this: in the end conquering is not about what territory or resources you control...it is about recasting the deck entirely.’
And he had mouthed something insipid about certainly meaning to and the Emperor had pulled his arm free to jab his walking stick impatiently to the south. ‘Everywhere, for every region – for every person – hands are dealt from the Dragons deck. To create true fundamental change you must force a complete reshuffling and recasting of all hands. Turn your thoughts to that.’ And the man had smiled slyly then, leaning on the silver hound’s head walking stick, staring out over the water and Ussü remembered thinking: As you have, wherever you have gone.

[Ceda Cicero]

MTS, on 14 January 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Imperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 28 December 2010 - 09:55 AM, said:

Stonewielder gave some nice pointers

Spoiler

Maybe we'll get Kiska, Leoman and even... Tayschrenn over. They might be at the first shore

It also gave us a great insight into Shadowthrone's philosophy:

Spoiler

Quote

'Ussü,' Kellanved had said, 'I will tell you this: in the end conquering is not about what territory or resources you control...it is about recasting the deck entirely.'
And he had mouthed something insipid about certainly meaning to and the Emperor had pulled his arm free to jab his walking stick impatiently to the south. 'Everywhere, for every region – for every person – hands are dealt from the Dragons deck. To create true fundamental change you must force a complete reshuffling and recasting of all hands. Turn your thoughts to that.' And the man had smiled slyly then, leaning on the silver hound's head walking stick, staring out over the water and Ussü remembered thinking: As you have, wherever you have gone.

Off topic, but is that a new sig, MTS? That's easily my favorite bit of SE prose I've yet read. Pure poetry.

[MTS]

Ciceronian, on 14 January 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

MTS, on 14 January 2011 - 04:30 PM, said:

Imperial High Mage Tayschrenn, on 28 December 2010 - 09:55 AM, said:

Stonewielder gave some nice pointers

Spoiler

Maybe we'll get Kiska, Leoman and even... Tayschrenn over. They might be at the first shore

It also gave us a great insight into Shadowthrone's philosophy:

Spoiler

Quote

'Ussü,' Kellanved had said, 'I will tell you this: in the end conquering is not about what territory or resources you control...it is about recasting the deck entirely.'
And he had mouthed something insipid about certainly meaning to and the Emperor had pulled his arm free to jab his walking stick impatiently to the south. 'Everywhere, for every region – for every person – hands are dealt from the Dragons deck. To create true fundamental change you must force a complete reshuffling and recasting of all hands. Turn your thoughts to that.' And the man had smiled slyly then, leaning on the silver hound's head walking stick, staring out over the water and Ussü remembered thinking: As you have, wherever you have gone.

Off topic, but is that a new sig, MTS? That's easily my favorite bit of SE prose I've yet read. Pure poetry.

New as in I just changed it, yeah. Used to be a William Blake poem. I agree though, beautifully written and quite profound. Writing like that is why TTH is up there with my favourite Malazan books, it's just a joy to read.