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Posted 05 August 2010 - 09:17 PM
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 09:26 AM
Aptorian, on 05 August 2010 - 07:39 PM, said:
Traveller, on 05 August 2010 - 12:20 PM, said:
Is ME 2 better than Dragon Age Origins?
I've never played ME 1 or 2...
I've never played ME 1 or 2...
I've not played DA:O but Iet me put it like this, do you want to play a generic fantasy RPG with some knights and some trolls and some war against evil or do you want to play an innovative Space RPG that lets you travel across the Milkyway kicking ass and taking names, banging sexy aliens, battling creepy space monsters and generally being bad ass?
(I'm sure DA:O also has an excellent story line, it's the same developers after all, but meh)
I meant is it better, as I didn't like Da:O much - I didn't want more of the same with a different backdrop. ( I thought the story was naff and unoriginal, and I'm fed up with hordes of generic orc decendents. Rest of rant is in DA:O thread.)
ME 2 in the post now, thanks to Amazons one-click ordering.
So that's the story. And what was the real lesson? Don't leave things in the fridge.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:03 AM
Aptorian, on 06 August 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:
What about ME1? I would not recommend playing this game with out completing ME1.
Indeed, ME2 will not make much sense without first having finished ME1
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:05 AM
Aptorian, on 06 August 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:
What about ME1? I would not recommend playing this game with out completing ME1.
This.
You do not. Want. To go. Straight. To. Part. Two.
You really, really want to play the first game and use that character for ME2. It's an integral part of the trilogy.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 11:59 AM
Gothos, on 06 August 2010 - 10:05 AM, said:
Aptorian, on 06 August 2010 - 09:34 AM, said:
What about ME1? I would not recommend playing this game with out completing ME1.
This.
You do not. Want. To go. Straight. To. Part. Two.
You really, really want to play the first game and use that character for ME2. It's an integral part of the trilogy.
Hm. I know you can import your character from ME1, but does that work on the 360?
So that's the story. And what was the real lesson? Don't leave things in the fridge.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 12:19 PM
Has to. I guess. Never had an xbox.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 04:02 PM
Ok, I'll go with the popular opinion. ME1 is only £7 now, and most of the reviews I've seen suggest playing it first. Originally thought I'd go straight for the sequel, as it's supposedly made a lot of improvemants on the 1st, but it looks like there's a fair bit of gameplay for the price, so why not.
Cheers for the input!
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This post has been edited by Traveller: 06 August 2010 - 08:26 PM
So that's the story. And what was the real lesson? Don't leave things in the fridge.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:29 PM
Sure, the graphics and character models have been improved along with a lot of the interface and space travel mechanics, but the really important thing about the game is the story. And ME1 had an excellent story.
Be warned though. After an action packed opening, you go to the Citadel and have to spend a couple of hours getting set up with the Alliance embassy, the council, various sub plots, etc. before you're sent on your merry way to explore space. Some people found that annoying about ME1 but it comes with the territory, as much action as there is, a lot of the game is about interacting with hundreds of different NPCs and exploring tons of sub quests.
Be warned though. After an action packed opening, you go to the Citadel and have to spend a couple of hours getting set up with the Alliance embassy, the council, various sub plots, etc. before you're sent on your merry way to explore space. Some people found that annoying about ME1 but it comes with the territory, as much action as there is, a lot of the game is about interacting with hundreds of different NPCs and exploring tons of sub quests.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 07:57 PM
So who's you favorite team members? So far I'm still missing two crew members. Tali and somebody else, I don't know if this is some kind of plot turn that I haven't encountered yet.
Mordin Solus is by far my favorite team member. I love his mannerisms and speech patterns. And his personality also agrees with me.
There's a redditor who made a Mordin Solus Novelty account. Every reply he makes is spot on: http://www.reddit.com/user/mordinsolus
Mordin Solus is by far my favorite team member. I love his mannerisms and speech patterns. And his personality also agrees with me.
There's a redditor who made a Mordin Solus Novelty account. Every reply he makes is spot on: http://www.reddit.com/user/mordinsolus
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 08:27 PM
Garrus and Grunt. Wa Garrus and Wrex in ME1 so I guess there ain't much surprise here eh? 
Also, I think I know who you're missing. That's actually my 3rd favourite party member, but I won't spoil it.
Also, I think I know who you're missing. That's actually my 3rd favourite party member, but I won't spoil it.
This post has been edited by Gothos: 06 August 2010 - 08:28 PM
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 10:01 PM
Traveller, the aspects of ME1 that are inferior won't annoy you if you play it first, they only seem lame in comparison if you go back to it after ME2.
Apt, I actually cycled my characters a lot, to make sure I always had one who could destroy barriers and one who could destroy shields. I liked having Tali and Garrus along though, cos I played ME1 many times and I'm a bit sentimental about them
Apt, I actually cycled my characters a lot, to make sure I always had one who could destroy barriers and one who could destroy shields. I liked having Tali and Garrus along though, cos I played ME1 many times and I'm a bit sentimental about them
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 02:52 AM
Okay, so I didn't read all of this thread, but most of it seemed to be about who y'all did the dirty with....anyway, am I the only one here who was severely disappointed with Mass Effect 2? I mean I had some fun...but my hopes and dreams for what I thought it would be were completely demolished. It had a good story still, but the game play was nothing like I expected. I mean there were god damned levels! They made it a shooter with a few RPG elements instead of an RPG with the action of shooters. I had SO many angry moments that I stopped playing a few days after I bought (I went back after a few weeks of course, and have since played through a couple of times).
....also....I hate cerberus
....also....I hate cerberus
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:01 AM
Only one? Probably not. I can see where you're coming from, anyway, even if I totally disagree. What were your hopes and dreams?
And what about Cerberus - why do you hate them? They're the only organisation who took the effort of rebuilding Shepard - the Council and the Alliance just couldn't care less. They're the only organisation that's actually doing something to counter the coming of the Reapers, while the others just sit on their asses and only calculate what will win them political prestige. The Alliance goes as far as blaming the disappearances on Cerberus and avoiding the real problem at hand. Sure, you might not like the Illusive Man, or some of their methods, but it's not like the galaxy can be picky.
And what about Cerberus - why do you hate them? They're the only organisation who took the effort of rebuilding Shepard - the Council and the Alliance just couldn't care less. They're the only organisation that's actually doing something to counter the coming of the Reapers, while the others just sit on their asses and only calculate what will win them political prestige. The Alliance goes as far as blaming the disappearances on Cerberus and avoiding the real problem at hand. Sure, you might not like the Illusive Man, or some of their methods, but it's not like the galaxy can be picky.
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It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:13 AM
God, I love this game. The atmosphere, the story, the characters, all of it just just mind blowing. The scope of this series is just incredible. In fact, Mass Effect (I have to catagorize it by series, not by game) is my 3rd favorite of all time, just behind the Metal Gear Solid series and Morrowind.
Just thinking about these games makes me want to go play them. I played the first through three or four times as paragon/renegade and different classes, but only played the second through once as a paragon. It feels like I'm really missing out, as I had so much fun being a complete dick to everyone in the first game. Hitting that dumb bitch reporter was hilariously epic.
Just thinking about these games makes me want to go play them. I played the first through three or four times as paragon/renegade and different classes, but only played the second through once as a paragon. It feels like I'm really missing out, as I had so much fun being a complete dick to everyone in the first game. Hitting that dumb bitch reporter was hilariously epic.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:21 PM
Gothos, on 09 September 2010 - 06:01 AM, said:
Only one? Probably not. I can see where you're coming from, anyway, even if I totally disagree. What were your hopes and dreams?
And what about Cerberus - why do you hate them? They're the only organisation who took the effort of rebuilding Shepard - the Council and the Alliance just couldn't care less. They're the only organisation that's actually doing something to counter the coming of the Reapers, while the others just sit on their asses and only calculate what will win them political prestige. The Alliance goes as far as blaming the disappearances on Cerberus and avoiding the real problem at hand. Sure, you might not like the Illusive Man, or some of their methods, but it's not like the galaxy can be picky.
And what about Cerberus - why do you hate them? They're the only organisation who took the effort of rebuilding Shepard - the Council and the Alliance just couldn't care less. They're the only organisation that's actually doing something to counter the coming of the Reapers, while the others just sit on their asses and only calculate what will win them political prestige. The Alliance goes as far as blaming the disappearances on Cerberus and avoiding the real problem at hand. Sure, you might not like the Illusive Man, or some of their methods, but it's not like the galaxy can be picky.
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For me it was the exact opposite I played true paragon, saved every crew and team member, loved aliens, but at the end I was forced to agree with the illusive man. When homicidal gods want to kill you you dont blow up perhaps the one weapon they left behind.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 10:29 PM
Hey hey, hold on a second! Just because I was a jerk being Renegade all over doesn't mean I didn't save every crew and team member! I may be a total asshole, but an efficient one - nobody dies on my watch as long as it doesn't compromise the task!
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 10 September 2010 - 11:56 AM
I blew up the base since I don't really trust the Illusive Man with that kind of tech. Sure he may have been the only one battling the collectors but Cerberus is still into some nasty shit. Also I had Garrus along in every mission - he was my second in command, no matter what Miranda thought.
Can't wait for ME3. I have this image of a Reaper fleet tearing a galaxy a new one while I gather my allies (and I got a bunch
) and prepare to kick them in the nuts. I mean: the Rachni promised to help, Wrex is alive and I bet he can bring a lot of krogan, the Geth already oppose the Reapers, the Quarians have the biggest fleet in the galaxy (just have to get them to play nice with the geth) and that's not even counting on the other races and stuff. Plus the Reapers lost their main advantage - the surprise attack from the Citadel that also turns off the Relays and the extranet.
Can't wait for ME3. I have this image of a Reaper fleet tearing a galaxy a new one while I gather my allies (and I got a bunch
) and prepare to kick them in the nuts. I mean: the Rachni promised to help, Wrex is alive and I bet he can bring a lot of krogan, the Geth already oppose the Reapers, the Quarians have the biggest fleet in the galaxy (just have to get them to play nice with the geth) and that's not even counting on the other races and stuff. Plus the Reapers lost their main advantage - the surprise attack from the Citadel that also turns off the Relays and the extranet.
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