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So, that's one game I've loved for a looooong time, but I've never ran into anyone else who played it for more than a few minutes. I think it has an AWESOME dark atmosphere, and an interesting system of troop leveling, as well as the thing with capital cities (that they're nearly unassailable). Before I bother to go into much detail, I just have to ask if I'm alone in loving this game?
Also, the third game in the series has been released last year in Russia, and is coming this year to other places as well. I'll have to take a look.
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Disciples II: Dark Prophecy
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 08:07 PM
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 09:35 PM
I got the game I liked it, just didn't play enough of it.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 09:40 PM
Did you ever tinker around enough to make a party that can kill a city guardian?
Rather easy as Empire, harder for the others. Think demons got it worst.
Rather easy as Empire, harder for the others. Think demons got it worst.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 09:42 PM
I ended up spamming armies but it been a long time since i played it. Total war ended up distracting me.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:57 PM
I loved Disciples to bits.
However, distribution of the expansions as discs was severely lacking and the fact that they split the first expansion into a light and a dark side (didn't buy it) then produced rise of the elves (did buy it, new race, so had to) as a seperate third for a full price left me non-plussed.
Still wondering if I'll buy D3: renaissance, I dislike the fact that there's 3 races instead of 4 in there and I also am not particularly happy about 'making the combat happen on a strategic map'... I liked the simple 6 vs 6 with fixed positions set-up of the first 2.
As for the city guardians: nope, didn't try it, except maybe drunk and for lolz... weren't they maximum hitpoints and a hit of 999 damage or something?
However, distribution of the expansions as discs was severely lacking and the fact that they split the first expansion into a light and a dark side (didn't buy it) then produced rise of the elves (did buy it, new race, so had to) as a seperate third for a full price left me non-plussed.
Still wondering if I'll buy D3: renaissance, I dislike the fact that there's 3 races instead of 4 in there and I also am not particularly happy about 'making the combat happen on a strategic map'... I liked the simple 6 vs 6 with fixed positions set-up of the first 2.
As for the city guardians: nope, didn't try it, except maybe drunk and for lolz... weren't they maximum hitpoints and a hit of 999 damage or something?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:13 PM
The new battle system is somewhat troubling, but I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt that it will work out good. I actually loved the static, very tactical fights in Disciples, choosing what and when to attack, using the right units, etc, it was awesome.
What I won't miss is the whole rod game, it always pissed me off.
One thing I'm hoping they could diminish is the unbelievably strong impact of ever losing an army. The hero and troops you pick at the start of a map, you'll have to pretty much kill everything on that map with that army to reach the xp cap and/or upgrade your units properly... after some builup, whoever loses the first clash of elite heroes and units will lose the game.
I didn't get the first two "expansions" personally, but I did get Rise of the Elves... that expansion is something of a cheap shot to those who bought the base game, since it's not only standalone, it also includes all the campaigns from the starter.
Yes, those are them guardians. Basically, pumping up your party's Armor to 80-90 is the first step. Getting them to do as much damage as possible helps too, since the guardian will have a TONNE of armor as well. Then there's initiative, the guardians will usually have the first shot.
If you don't have healing (priestesses for empire, triple vampire lords for undead, something for elves too), you better have some solid paralyze or petrification. Quite frankly I can't recall now if dwarves have any sort of healing available in battle - can the alchemist line heal at all? Can't recall.
A long fight, but a guaranteed level up for anything you might bring. Then again, if you can take on a guardian, you're probably winning anyway.
Then again, I found Demon Uther a lot, lot harder. Fucking AoE Paralyze.
What I won't miss is the whole rod game, it always pissed me off.
One thing I'm hoping they could diminish is the unbelievably strong impact of ever losing an army. The hero and troops you pick at the start of a map, you'll have to pretty much kill everything on that map with that army to reach the xp cap and/or upgrade your units properly... after some builup, whoever loses the first clash of elite heroes and units will lose the game.
I didn't get the first two "expansions" personally, but I did get Rise of the Elves... that expansion is something of a cheap shot to those who bought the base game, since it's not only standalone, it also includes all the campaigns from the starter.
Yes, those are them guardians. Basically, pumping up your party's Armor to 80-90 is the first step. Getting them to do as much damage as possible helps too, since the guardian will have a TONNE of armor as well. Then there's initiative, the guardians will usually have the first shot.
If you don't have healing (priestesses for empire, triple vampire lords for undead, something for elves too), you better have some solid paralyze or petrification. Quite frankly I can't recall now if dwarves have any sort of healing available in battle - can the alchemist line heal at all? Can't recall.
A long fight, but a guaranteed level up for anything you might bring. Then again, if you can take on a guardian, you're probably winning anyway.
Then again, I found Demon Uther a lot, lot harder. Fucking AoE Paralyze.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:28 PM
I didn't have a whole lot of trouble with the campaign, unless you lose your überstrong hero. The gear-reset isn't all that bad between levels.
The alchemist wasn't about healing, but gave an extra attack. The other line I think was about wards and damage increase, basically making one guy immune as long as you kept casting it.
The alchemist wasn't about healing, but gave an extra attack. The other line I think was about wards and damage increase, basically making one guy immune as long as you kept casting it.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 01:34 PM
Guardian damage type is Life so you can't get wards or immunities to it.
Basically it's an endurance fight, for some coupled with luck.
Anyway, I'd love to see more games with this type of unit upgrading, makes you really tied to your troops. Plus, the higher end units look just spectacular.
Basically it's an endurance fight, for some coupled with luck.
Anyway, I'd love to see more games with this type of unit upgrading, makes you really tied to your troops. Plus, the higher end units look just spectacular.
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.
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