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RG is filled with little morsels that I love finding. Last night I discovered Nimander thinking about one of his favorite childhood stories. I am pretty sure it is a shout out to the old man in NoK.. Check it out. Bottom of page 603 , I think, paperback. I love it.
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cool easter egg form RG.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 03:23 PM
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter at the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...."
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 06:02 PM
Only Nimander scene in mine close to that is when Clip comes to get Nimander, and there's no mention of childhood stories there...
Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem.
Si hoc adfixum in obice legere potes, et liberaliter educatus et nimis propinquus ades.
Si hoc adfixum in obice legere potes, et liberaliter educatus et nimis propinquus ades.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 08:20 PM
madness. I checked when I went home for lunch, its at the bottom of page 603 in the big paper back US version. Sorry books at home so I cant copy it here at work.
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter at the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...."
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 08:23 PM
Its kind of around the inner mopnologue where Nimander is thinking about the "row, row, away from problems" type of thoughts. Lamenting the silanda. Way before Clip comes and gets him.
I have seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter at the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain...."
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 09:10 PM
I've got an electronic version of the Malazan books, which is very useful when looking for half-remembered quotes and for posting long quotes. I think you're refering to this part:
"He remembered a story, the story he always remembered, would ever remember. An old man alone in a small fisher boat. Rowing into the face of a mountain of ice. Oh, he did love that story. The pointless glory of it, the mindless magic - he would grow chilled at the thought, at the vision he conjured of that wondrous, profound and profoundly use¬less scene. Old man, what do you think you are doing? Old man — the ice!"
Unfortunately, I haven't read NoK yet, so I didn't understand the cross-reference. I'll keep this part in mind, though, when I'll start reading NoK.
"He remembered a story, the story he always remembered, would ever remember. An old man alone in a small fisher boat. Rowing into the face of a mountain of ice. Oh, he did love that story. The pointless glory of it, the mindless magic - he would grow chilled at the thought, at the vision he conjured of that wondrous, profound and profoundly use¬less scene. Old man, what do you think you are doing? Old man — the ice!"
Unfortunately, I haven't read NoK yet, so I didn't understand the cross-reference. I'll keep this part in mind, though, when I'll start reading NoK.
"Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 09:12 PM
Sounds right. Not surprising someone associated with Drift Avali would have stories from that part of the ocean as well, I think. If my geography is correct.
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Posted 16 June 2010 - 10:44 PM
H.D., on 16 June 2010 - 09:12 PM, said:
Sounds right. Not surprising someone associated with Drift Avali would have stories from that part of the ocean as well, I think. If my geography is correct.
Drift Avalii was supposedly out of communcation with Quon Tali since the days of the Emperor, though, wasn't it? So hopefully Nimander learned that story from a bonehunter on the trip to Lether...
worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:
I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 02:11 AM
D, on 16 June 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:
H.D., on 16 June 2010 - 09:12 PM, said:
Sounds right. Not surprising someone associated with Drift Avali would have stories from that part of the ocean as well, I think. If my geography is correct.
Drift Avalii was supposedly out of communcation with Quon Tali since the days of the Emperor, though, wasn't it? So hopefully Nimander learned that story from a bonehunter on the trip to Lether...
Or more likely when he was hanging out on Malaz Isle with Withal and his cousins for awhile?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 12:29 PM
Thanks Ozymandiac. And Apt, are the US and European versions of the books really that different? Is there no mention of Nimander anywhere near page 603? I thought they would be not exactly the same but close.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:49 PM
WhiskeyJackDaniels, on 17 June 2010 - 02:11 AM, said:
D, on 16 June 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:
H.D., on 16 June 2010 - 09:12 PM, said:
Sounds right. Not surprising someone associated with Drift Avali would have stories from that part of the ocean as well, I think. If my geography is correct.
Drift Avalii was supposedly out of communcation with Quon Tali since the days of the Emperor, though, wasn't it? So hopefully Nimander learned that story from a bonehunter on the trip to Lether...
Or more likely when he was hanging out on Malaz Isle with Withal and his cousins for awhile?
Right
worrywort, on 14 September 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:
I kinda love it when D'rek unleashes her nerd wrath, as I knew she would here. Sorry innocent bystanders, but someone's gotta be the kindling.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 05:39 AM
I remember that. Nimander recollecting the old fisher man sailing out to the ice-locked seas in Night of Knives.
I enjoyed Nimander's poetically prosed scenes in Reaper's Gale. They were specially written that way and showed Erikson just doesn't write casual soldier talk all the time. Hood this, and grunting that.
I enjoyed Nimander's poetically prosed scenes in Reaper's Gale. They were specially written that way and showed Erikson just doesn't write casual soldier talk all the time. Hood this, and grunting that.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 08:52 AM
Aptorian, on 27 June 2010 - 05:45 AM, said:
I thought that Nimander managed to become all most as annoying as the Mhybe during RG.
That's the gravest insult to Nimander possible imh, there was no character throughout MBotF I hated more than the Mhybe. Actually, in any book I ever read.
inb4 people telling which character they hate most
"Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 01:21 PM
Aptorian, on 27 June 2010 - 05:45 AM, said:
Really?
I thought that Nimander managed to become all most as annoying as the Mhybe during RG.
I thought that Nimander managed to become all most as annoying as the Mhybe during RG.
Agreed. Nimander is to Rake as Raiden is to Solid Snake in MGS.
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Posted 27 June 2010 - 04:00 PM
I'd argue that would be Clip, since Nimander improved greatly in TTH.
Then again, I never played MGS4 so maybe.
Then again, I never played MGS4 so maybe.
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Posted 04 July 2010 - 11:06 AM
Then it's agreed. Maybe and Clip: most Hoodable characters made. And Sansa Stark.
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