[Edrigan]

Give me one sec, need to double check something.

And yea, wiki is a perfectly acceptable source of info, D'rek is notorious for keeping names as they are, and sticking as much to the story as possible - If D'reks map says Luo Yang is in Yuan Shao's control, and the lore says Han Fu is the prefect of it, why change it?

One sec, please.

[hmqb]

edd you going to confirm/ not confirm?

[Silencer]

I did some wiki'ing of my own to see where the discrepancy lies:

Gongsun Zan's page.

[hmqb]

Ed, who cares... if you think hes guilty no amount of questioning will get anything from him.

[Silencer]

Oh, I love that. "Who cares?" Uh, yeah, the inno team, 'cuz we don't want to lynch wrong, mk?

[hmqb]

no... arguing over characters from this i'm pretty sure there not all perfect

[Silencer]

Also, I'd have to suggest that 'getting stuff from' me is determined not by what Ed thinks, but by whether I am in fact scum or not...jus'sayin.

[hmqb]

I find that you can defend yourself just as easily if your guilty or innocent...

[Edrigan]

I'm not arguing over characters, or anything of that sort.

I'm waiting confirmation from Path Shapper.

I was expecting one of you two actually lying.

[hmqb]

no ed, I got permission from PS and I posted the truth... didn't you see my posts? all you have to do is say yes that is you or no it isn't


you are Geng Bao

[Silencer]

Well one of us has to be, Ed. XD

@HMQB - you can defend yourself, but that doesn't mean it will be effective. I find scum defenses have a unique form and style...hard to spot but still there nonetheless.

[Edrigan]

I'm not asking permission for you HMQB, I'm asking something else.

Don't worry.

By the way, Silencer, there is still time to backpedal on your story. I can't say it will be effective, but it sure as fuck will be entertaining.

[Silencer]

I'm not backpeddling. I have no reason to...

[Silencer]

I am, however, going out. So I will catch you all later. Have fun not-lynching me...

[hmqb]

Silencer, on 14 July 2010 - 11:49 PM, said:

I am, however, going out. So I will catch you all later. Have fun not-lynching me...

wow hes confident... but edd all you really have to do is if your realize im right vote silencer, i'm almost certain thats not a reveal.

[hmqb]

ment, alt and dkt still need to do something.

[Edrigan]

Aha!

So suddenly you're not so intrested in what I have to say, or not intrested on how this unfolds, right?

Backpeddaling scum.


Ok, reveal time.

I am Geng Bao, and I am on Yuan Shao's side.
HMQB got the name correct, apart from the Bao which he spelled Boa. I'm willing to go with that.

I've been paired with Grief, sharing the tactician role.Yes I have a role, but revealing that will not make any difference right now, so I'd rather keep it a secret.
We agreed on a code before hand, the first letter in each sentence will spell each others name, if moved two places backwards in the Alphabet.I took the liberty to underline them out in the posts for you to see.

Grief, on 13 July 2010 - 11:51 PM, said:

Got to say, HMQB, although he accuses silencer of it, also seems to be playing safely. For one I'd like to see a bit of evidence to back up the opinions he expresses. Though I agree that Silencer is playing safely, he doesn't really explain he thinks this, or offer examples(though he mentioned suspecting Silencer yesterday, so is at least consistent). Kind of seems just to be coasting. I find it hard to get a read on him-he's pretty agreeable, but doesn't contribute anything really original, or give that much explanation to his feelings. Could be scum, but it's hard to tell with so little explanation, and there isn't really any evidence that he isn't just voicing opinions to be seen to be contributing, or acting solely on gut.

Please explain why you think Silencer is trying hard to protect himself, compared to anyone else-I agree, but would like to hear your reasons for it, because at the moment, you just seem ot be stating a general feeling without backing it up.

There is his, and here's mine.

Edrigan, on 14 July 2010 - 11:47 AM, said:

In retrospect, Alt what is going on?!?

There we are, 5 hours away from the end of the day, and you still don't want to put a vote in, you still ask for 'concrete' evidence, you are stll not convinced by anything.

Knowing our timetable, you aren't willing to take the risks, you seem to stall for some reason.Yet a few of us have agreed we should probably consider lynching twice today - How can we accomplish that if we have people stalling?!?

Granted,you say nothing sticks out to you as exeptionally scummy? Yet you don't seem willing to put any noteworthy pressure on anyone. Voting -IS- pressure. Its demanding answers. How will you get people to post and interact so you can draw conclusions if all you do is wait around for them - You seem unwilling to take initiative, and that's what a good scum would do, with 7 players into the game and no 'real cases on the table'. Simply wait it out. Why risk your head in the process and draw attention.

Here we have a situation where we can't simply afford to wait for scum to slip.We don't even trully know if one of the deaths was a bad vig.No vig reveal as of yet, no senarios on the table portaiting PB as a vig who viged The Dude (And why would he apart from him being unlynchable in most cases) or The Dude viging PB (and why would he, PB was vocal and active - but not too scummy per se)

Since Grief CF'ed inno, that proves that I am inno as well.
Yes DKT noticed us being buddy buddy, but hey, thats our problem, and we had a room, ok?


At this point, I am inclined to believe that HMQB is telling the truth, after all he got the name pretty much down.If he is a scum with a finder ability, then sorry I fell for it.
So by definition, Silencer is a lying scum, running away to hide, and possibly warned his partner about it in the process.
Who might that be? Either DKT or Alt. I can't be sure if its Ment, it would have been tons of help if HMQB decided to switch his NA towards someone else instead of me this night, woulda narrowed down the field more.

Both Alt and DKT were willing to sell Silencer yesterday.
Both Alt and DKT voted night.
Both Alt and DKT advocated double lynch yet hesitated to vote or push it on day 2.

[Edrigan]

High Mage Quick Ben, on 15 July 2010 - 12:06 AM, said:

ment, alt and dkt still need to do something.

DKT won't be for a while, he plays from work from what I know.

Alt has been on and off for a while, and has DELIBERATELY avoided to post all this time.
I wana choke him just for his emoticon after his night vote.
But I will feel warm and fuzzy inside once we lynch him and he CF's scum.

[hmqb]

whoops i just realized I spelled it wrong

I think we need to move on silencer soon and wow that thing with grief was sweet.

If we rush on silencer get him out, we might have time to lynch either alt or dkt.

if we get Silencer dead, it will be 4 vs 1 and if we vote out one of alt or dkt it will end up either game over we win or down to 2 vs 1 the next day and hopefully it will be easy to determine who it is by then.

[Edrigan]

Ok the plan then moves on and goes like this:


We lynch Silencer today.

Then its down to Me, You,Ment, Alt, DKT.

We then lynch either DKT or Alt, while you investigate the other.

Let's say we lynch Alt (because I want to) and you find DKT during the night.

If noone dies it means my guard on Ment prevented a kill, or my heal on you prevented a kill.You share your find results, and if DKT comes up inno, we lynch Ment, town wins.If he comes up scum, we lynch him, town wins.
If I die, it means my guard on Ment failed because he is inno, or my heal on you couldn't register since I got NK'ed. You share your find results with Ment-DKT, you lynch the other scum, town wins.
If you die, it means my guard on Ment failed, or my heal on you failed, so me and Ment or DKT lynch the other, town wins.
If Ment dies, it means my guard on Ment failed because he is inno, or my heal on you failed because you weren't targeted, me and you lynch DKT, town wins.
If DKT dies, it means my heal on you failed because you weren't targeted, or my guard on Ment was not successfull, me and you lynch Ment, town wins.



Now that we get things under control, I am really curious as to which of Alt-DKT will try to weasel themselves out of this shithole.
Please make it entertaining, at least.

Love,
Edrigan.


EDIT: The plan contains both role actions since I aint gonna bother saying what role I have.It makes no difference, at this point.

This post has been edited by Edrigan: 15 July 2010 - 12:58 AM