[alt146]

dktorode, on 14 July 2010 - 10:39 AM, said:

For me...every game is an altless game.

Must... Resist... Obvious... Joke...

Seriously though, after rereading the last day I'm still not convinced by anything. I think you might have a point wrt HMQB and Ment, but it's not all that concrete.

[dktorode]

Yes...nothing is concrete.
But what ever is?

I like my case, but im willing to consider others....though time is ticking.

[dktorode]

aaah grief is here...finally someone i semi trust

[dktorode]

Who is the one anon user all the time?

thought we all just gonna rock out with our cock out this game?

[dktorode]

Oh yes....i completely forgot about this bit.
With this guys rambimg on next to me for half the day its a wonder i could post anything at all.

Mentalist, on 14 July 2010 - 05:06 AM, said:

at this point, due to him being a reserved and crafty bastard, I'd be inclined to vote SAIlencer, but i'll wait till morning for that.

g'night.

He doesnt put his vote down!
Looks to me like he does not want to place a vote to quickly after HMQB has made his case and voted.
Thats another reason i think they are pared.
Also delaying the vote gives him a chance to see the lay of the land and how people react to his push on a Silencer lynch.

[Grief]

Silencer, I wasn't summarising HMQBs point. I mentioned it yesterday, aswell.

Alt is ridiculously middle of the road. Maybe it's the lack of a strong case, but he really seems to have no strong opinions on anything.

I would be down with a ment lynch. Low-posting, and if we never lynch low-posters, it just encourages it.

Edrigan hasn't posted since I lsat commented. Struck me defensive, but less likely to be scum than most.

DK. Not much of a read. Maybe it's the lack of involvement. His case on Ment isn't too bad. There is no evidence that ment actually bothered doing what he said, which is a bit scummy.

Silencer. Would like to lynch today.

HMQB is really not posting anything with much content.

I think we need to lynch twice. Time is obviously going to be an issue.

[Silencer]

@Grief - maybe you didn't, but you still haven't responded to the rest of my point, which is: we were too close to deadline to get two lynches, so why bother discussing the merits when it'd already been done to death and no resolution?

[dktorode]

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

Silencer, I wasn't summarising HMQBs point. I mentioned it yesterday, aswell.

Alt is ridiculously middle of the road. Maybe it's the lack of a strong case, but he really seems to have no strong opinions on anything.

I would be down with a ment lynch. Low-posting, and if we never lynch low-posters, it just encourages it.

Edrigan hasn't posted since I lsat commented. Struck me defensive, but less likely to be scum than most.

DK. Not much of a read. Maybe it's the lack of involvement. His case on Ment isn't too bad. There is no evidence that ment actually bothered doing what he said, which is a bit scummy.

Silencer. Would like to lynch today.

HMQB is really not posting anything with much content.

I think we need to lynch twice. Time is obviously going to be an issue.

You really do like your 'list everyone and say something about each" bit dont you?
It reminds of a classic scum tell. ALMOST...
The one where scum sometimes like to make a list of what has happened in the day. repeating everything of note everyeon ELSE has said
It looks helpfull, but at the end of the day you are just regurgitating what everyone knows.

Where you actually make a list on the way YOU feel about everyone...it is different but very disconcerting to me.

[Grief]

Another benefit of a silencer and ment lynch is they'to be partnered. I think going for people we think are partners is stupid at this stage, since if we're wrong about one, we're likely rong about both, so going for people individually would be better.

Silencers argument about Meta is pretty reasonable, but I still don't like that he basically used it pre-emptively.

[Grief]

dktorode, on 14 July 2010 - 11:37 AM, said:

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

Silencer, I wasn't summarising HMQBs point. I mentioned it yesterday, aswell.

Alt is ridiculously middle of the road. Maybe it's the lack of a strong case, but he really seems to have no strong opinions on anything.

I would be down with a ment lynch. Low-posting, and if we never lynch low-posters, it just encourages it.

Edrigan hasn't posted since I lsat commented. Struck me defensive, but less likely to be scum than most.

DK. Not much of a read. Maybe it's the lack of involvement. His case on Ment isn't too bad. There is no evidence that ment actually bothered doing what he said, which is a bit scummy.

Silencer. Would like to lynch today.

HMQB is really not posting anything with much content.

I think we need to lynch twice. Time is obviously going to be an issue.

You really do like your 'list everyone and say something about each" bit dont you?
It reminds of a classic scum tell. ALMOST...
The one where scum sometimes like to make a list of what has happened in the day. repeating everything of note everyeon ELSE has said
It looks helpfull, but at the end of the day you are just regurgitating what everyone knows.

Where you actually make a list on the way YOU feel about everyone...it is different but very disconcerting to me.

You need to keep up with the times better

[dktorode]

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

DK. Not much of a read. Maybe it's the lack of involvement.

Im not quite sure what to say about this comment?....i am afterall the highest poster and have made a good few cases??

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

His case on Ment isn't too bad. There is no evidence that ment actually bothered doing what he said, which is a bit scummy.

erm no you cant PROVE anything....but here is something that would suggest he did.
Ill make it all big like...so you dont miss it this time

Mentalist, on 14 July 2010 - 05:06 AM, said:

ok, done, reading. took a while cuz I had to get stuff ready for a loan appointment tomorrow.

anyhow, I couldn't really see the Dude pissing off anyone--he didn't talk enough. PB, otoh, had gotten into tiffs with Silencer, Ed, and even Grief to a degree....

at this point, due to him being a reserved and crafty bastard, I'd be inclined to vote SAIlencer, but i'll wait till morning for that.

g'night.

edit - fixed tags

This post has been edited by dktorode: 14 July 2010 - 11:43 AM

[alt146]

God I hate paperwork.

@Grief, there isnt really anything to have strong opinions about. I suppose if we want to cover our bases we could lynch Ment/HMQB and Silencer, since there seems to be a subtle split along those lines. Not sure who Silencer's partner would be though. Please note this is just an idea - I'm not sure enough of any of the other players to know for sure we will hit one scum in that combo and it with a possible second kill there is every chance it could end the game if we vote wrong twice.

[Grief]

Silencer, on 14 July 2010 - 11:36 AM, said:

@Grief - maybe you didn't, but you still haven't responded to the rest of my point, which is: we were too close to deadline to get two lynches, so why bother discussing the merits when it'd already been done to death and no resolution?

We had 13 hours to go when you first came on, and didn't talk about it.

[Edrigan]

In retrospect, Alt what is going on?!?

There we are, 5 hours away from the end of the day, and you still don't want to put a vote in, you still ask for 'concrete' evidence, you are stll not convinced by anything.

Knowing our timetable, you aren't willing to take the risks, you seem to stall for some reason.Yet a few of us have agreed we should probably consider lynching twice today - How can we accomplish that if we have people stalling?!?

Granted,you say nothing sticks out to you as exeptionally scummy? Yet you don't seem willing to put any noteworthy pressure on anyone. Voting -IS- pressure. Its demanding answers. How will you get people to post and interact so you can draw conclusions if all you do is wait around for them - You seem unwilling to take initiative, and that's what a good scum would do, with 7 players into the game and no 'real cases on the table'. Simply wait it out. Why risk your head in the process and draw attention.

Here we have a situation where we can't simply afford to wait for scum to slip.We don't even trully know if one of the deaths was a bad vig.No vig reveal as of yet, no senarios on the table portaiting PB as a vig who viged The Dude (And why would he apart from him being unlynchable in most cases) or The Dude viging PB (and why would he, PB was vocal and active - but not too scummy per se)

Ment is kinda doing the same thing. Saying a few words, then leaving only to say he will come back later to vote - again hesitating to drop a vote at this point, and allow us the option to discuss it further.DKT is also hesitant to drop a vote. I don't know if he's waiting on purpose to see which of the names that are currently on the table will draw the most votes before he does, or he has something else on his mind.

It is my personal opinion that one of the scums can be found in the people already been voted. Silencer-HMQB-Ment.There's also a good chance his partner can be either Alt or DKT due to unwillingness to vote at this point, so they don't appear to derail or distract.There's also the very dangerous senario of Alt-DKT being our killers, and both waiting for us to tighten the noose on our necks before they pull the rope.Grief is a wild card, other than being reasonable- Let me rephrase that, other than being TOO reasonable.

[hmqb]

No offense but pretty much everyone's arguments lack real content.
I see it as this way Silencers is getting really pissed off until dk comes and defends him, possible connection? Who Knows.
Now looking at it this way 1 lynch would actually be in the best interest (If we go with Silencer) or we could go for 2

[dktorode]

Meh fuck it

Im a vote Mentalist

then we can see if we can get another lynch on who ever else we see fit.

[Mentalist]

well, i"m back, ever so temporarily.

@ dkt, awesome case, considering you're one of those people I actually trust.

ok, reveal time: me and PB were lovers. his first post, first letter every fourth word reads "I heart Ment". My first post, every second word, first letter, you get "PB is the Best". I made 1 typo in that, though (extra word between "b:" and "e")

my thoughts were simple: the Dude got vigged, and PB talked so much, someone thought him a potential danged and NKed him.

atm, there are a couple of people I can see doing that, and Silencer is among them. considering how scummy he's acted beforehand, I will now
vote Silencer

[dktorode]

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:40 AM, said:

Another benefit of a silencer and ment lynch is they'to be partnered. I think going for people we think are partners is stupid at this stage, since if we're wrong about one, we're likely rong about both, so going for people individually would be better.

Silencers argument about Meta is pretty reasonable, but I still don't like that he basically used it pre-emptively.

not a bad idea

just lynch them all i say

[dktorode]

whoooaw cross post heaven

[Grief]

dktorode, on 14 July 2010 - 11:43 AM, said:

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

DK. Not much of a read. Maybe it's the lack of involvement.

Im not quite sure what to say about this comment?....i am afterall the highest poster and have made a good few cases??

Grief, on 14 July 2010 - 11:33 AM, said:

His case on Ment isn't too bad. There is no evidence that ment actually bothered doing what he said, which is a bit scummy.

erm no you cant PROVE anything....but here is something that would suggest he did.
Ill make it all big like...so you dont miss it this time

Mentalist, on 14 July 2010 - 05:06 AM, said:

ok, done, reading. took a while cuz I had to get stuff ready for a loan appointment tomorrow.

anyhow, I couldn't really see the Dude pissing off anyone--he didn't talk enough. PB, otoh, had gotten into tiffs with Silencer, Ed, and even Grief to a degree....

at this point, due to him being a reserved and crafty bastard, I'd be inclined to vote SAIlencer, but i'll wait till morning for that.

g'night.

edit - fixed tags

It's just how I as struck. You've posted a lot, but don't seem really behind a lynch much. Hard to read what your opinions on everybody are, maybe.

On the ment point, yeah I missed that.