[Fener]

also, that smoking lady is dead?
wtf, lol

[Silanah]

Fener, on 27 May 2010 - 02:35 AM, said:

also, that smoking lady is dead?
wtf, lol

From what I can see, yes.

[Galain]

I'm back and around. Hmm pretty interesting there Silanah, it does look very much like the Smoking Woman was the deceased Shadow so there's no possible way that its Ruse.

I think we need to hear from D'riss and for him to explain a little more if he could why he thought Ruse was the smoking woman.

[Fener]

fuck, my inet's getting shity, dunno how much longer my connection will last.

[Fener]

hmmm. on top of what's been said, the day 1 scene was supposedly about Korv doing finds on people. and Korv said he found OMtose and Kaschan.

so, if anything, D'riss should be gung ho about Kaschan

also, question to Omtose: can you point us to the scene where your lover found out D'riss is Syndicate?

[Gamelon]

Trouble is, at this point Kaschan's PI in most people's minds since he outed a confirmed scum, so he's not exactly an "easy target" to push a lynch on so to speak.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I prefer a Ruse lynch.

[Liosan]

Care to share the reasoning behind that preference, Gamelon?

[Olar Ethil]

Well, I'm back for about an hour. I see what Ruse is saying... at this point it's basically a He said/she said.

[Olar Ethil]

Fener, on 27 May 2010 - 03:32 AM, said:

hmmm. on top of what's been said, the day 1 scene was supposedly about Korv doing finds on people. and Korv said he found OMtose and Kaschan.

so, if anything, D'riss should be gung ho about Kaschan

also, question to Omtose: can you point us to the scene where your lover found out D'riss is Syndicate?

This is a good idea... and it wouldn't be outing yourself. Is OMtose going to be around?

[Mockra]

Caught up and I'm just as suspicious of Ruse and Omtose now as ever. I DO believe that he has little time to play, and I also believe that he may not recognize himself in EVERY scene. I've certainly researched the scenes before to see if someone could have been me when it was vague.

But I can't believe he has a ton of passive abilities, few active ones, AND can't identify himself in more than one.

D'riss has been consistent against Ruse, if nothing else. I think a Ruse lynch gives maximum info for minimal cost (potentially 2 people in Ruse/Omtose as opposed to one in D'riss).

Vote Ruse

[Mockra]

I'm voting now because you jerks speed lynched yesterday so I'd like to get my say in. If new info comes out, I'll be around for a couple more hours and then back in the morning.

[Gamelon]

Liosan, on 27 May 2010 - 04:07 AM, said:

Care to share the reasoning behind that preference, Gamelon?

Basically the realization that (as has been pointed out earlier in the thread) the smoking woman is most likely already dead, which means that D'riss's case against Ruse isn't all that valid to begin with.

On that note, I'm off to bed.

[Fener]

so, you're saying that since D'riss' case against Ruse doesn't seem as valid anymore, you want to.... vote Ruse?


seriously?

[Liosan]

Fener, on 27 May 2010 - 04:24 AM, said:

so, you're saying that since D'riss' case against Ruse doesn't seem as valid anymore, you want to.... vote Ruse?


seriously?

I'm kind of lost there too.

I assume you are bringing up Kaschan because he was one of the obvious early finds, and thus is more likely to fit as "Unassuming woman" than others. How that equates to wanting to lynch Kaschan, I have no idea.

[Fener]

that's seriously confusing, Gam.

anyhow, i'm off to bed, the weather here's been a killer the last coupla days and I need lots of sleep.

back in about 7 hours

[Mockra]

No, for some reason what I was thinking didn't all get typed.

I said I could see a character exist with a lot of passive abilities and that Ruse hadn't been around much. But I also meant that I wouldn't be surprised that a character with passive abilities would be scum... especially considering how many abilities are being used in this game against scum.

On top of that, one scene? Seriously? That is clearly a massive fabrication.

[Liosan]

Who are you talking to Mockra?

[Ruse]

Mockra, on 27 May 2010 - 04:13 AM, said:

Caught up and I'm just as suspicious of Ruse and Omtose now as ever. I DO believe that he has little time to play, and I also believe that he may not recognize himself in EVERY scene. I've certainly researched the scenes before to see if someone could have been me when it was vague.

But I can't believe he has a ton of passive abilities, few active ones, AND can't identify himself in more than one.

D'riss has been consistent against Ruse, if nothing else. I think a Ruse lynch gives maximum info for minimal cost (potentially 2 people in Ruse/Omtose as opposed to one in D'riss).

Vote Ruse

And what preconceived Mafia mechanics box are you pulling these beliefs out of? With 22 people playing, you can't imagine one person with primarily passive abilities? Really? No one's been freaking targeting me. Have you or anyone you are in contact with targeted me with an ability?

I'm off to bed. I understand that you think lynching me first will get the most information, but my innocent CF is just going to create more WIFOM about D'riss and Omtose. I was trying to come up with other possible scenarios for Omtose's reveal. It's possible that he is scum and saw an opportunity to get two innocents who were involved in a misunderstanding lynched before he himself is lynched. His motives would be that he believes the syndicate will win in two more lynches or because he believes he is on his way out anyway for some reason (poison, some info yet to be revealed, I don't know).

[Ruse]

Mockra, on 27 May 2010 - 04:48 AM, said:

No, for some reason what I was thinking didn't all get typed.

I said I could see a character exist with a lot of passive abilities and that Ruse hadn't been around much. But I also meant that I wouldn't be surprised that a character with passive abilities would be scum... especially considering how many abilities are being used in this game against scum.

On top of that, one scene? Seriously? That is clearly a massive fabrication.

Whatever, man. D'riss pointed out another scene I could be in, and when I went back and looked at the scenes looking for myself, I found another that could be me, but at the time I said that, I had only positively identified myself in one scene. I don't know who you're talking to, but in spoilers you will see how "massively" wrong you are.

[Mockra]

@Lio, that was @Fener.

Ruse, really, IDK what else to think. The "you'll see in spoilers" routine is a old. I already got duped by Rashan into helping spare him (although we were still 1 short, but maybe he would have been lynched short of the req. number a la Korv and Rashan the 2nd time). We never got him to L-1, closest was L-2 when votes starting adding/removing.