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#1 User is offline   Kurt Montandon 

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 02:51 AM

I have this vague vanity project in mind. I'm going to re-write (or at least heavily edit) Gardens of the Moon on my computer, and then when I have the money send it in to a vanity publisher for a single hard-bound copy, for my own personal use, as a volume that's in correlation with the rest of the series. Again, this is necessarily something I'm limiting to myself, to avoid treading on any copyrighted toes.

As an ancillary to this though, I thought it would be interesting to put together a formal list of GotMisms, which I'm going to watch out for (in addition to brushing up the prose here and there, and smoothing out inconsistencies).

So, let's begin:


* "Warrens," capitalized. All shall be "warrens."
* Quick's rather silly "Awaken the Seven!" moment.
* Fiddler's age. Probably needs to be a few years older. More hints as to his and Whiskeyjack's mutual past, though they actually exist in GotM.
* The ages of various ancient entities, which seem to be bumped up an order of magnitude in later books.
* The arcane knowledge of common mages, which also seems to be much vaster in later books. Baruk's unfamiliarity with Tiste Andii, or Tayschrenn's lack of knowledge about Moon's Spawn. It seems as though later in the series,
everyone has a much wider breadth of information on such topics.
* Spoken spells. Still not sure if this is out of whack with later books - I think we see it once or twice as late as TTH and DoD.
* T'lan Imass being referred to simply as "T'lan" instead of as "Imass."


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Posted 06 May 2010 - 03:06 AM

That time Kalam accidentally calls Quick Ben "Aslan"...it's never brought up again.
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 03:37 AM

There's a couple more -> over here

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 08:34 AM

T'lan Imass being able to deaden magic.

Could be wrong but I dont think Anomander Rake is called the Chaos Mane after GotM.

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Posted 06 May 2010 - 10:22 AM

Orfantal being a woman in GotM.
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 10:28 AM

This could take you a looooong time, Kurt! XD

Hell, I wonder how much of the action in this book would have taken place as it did if you bring it all up to date with what people seem to know later on...but I digress, that's just silly, lol.


But I wish you best of luck, and if I ever think of any extras to add I'll drop 'em in. :bs:
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 11:10 AM

View Postworrywort, on 06 May 2010 - 03:06 AM, said:

That time Kalam accidentally calls Quick Ben "Aslan"...it's never brought up again.


Wait a second... like an Azalan demon?
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:08 PM

View PostKurt Montandon, on 06 May 2010 - 02:51 AM, said:

* "Warrens," capitalized. All shall be "warrens."

Esslemont does this in his books too, I believe--so it's not really a "GotMism" per se.
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 07:15 PM

That's more of a 'only-read-cliff-notes-of-every-book-after-DG'ism.
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 08:54 PM

View PostHarvester, on 06 May 2010 - 11:10 AM, said:

View Postworrywort, on 06 May 2010 - 03:06 AM, said:

That time Kalam accidentally calls Quick Ben "Aslan"...it's never brought up again.


Wait a second... like an Azalan demon?


Nah, like a Jesus lion.

But that reminds me, don't some characters use the word "hell" in GotM?
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:05 PM

Hahaha... "because I am Jesus"




"Hell" would be really odd, I need to reread Gardens somewhen.
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Posted 06 May 2010 - 09:28 PM

Yes, one of them does - it's a confirmed GotMism by SE himself. :bs:
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