[Fener]

Liosan, on 07 May 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

Korbas, on 07 May 2010 - 05:15 PM, said:

remove vote
Vote Mockra

True, I guess that does clear up my innocence. I still feel fucking retarded though. So, one of the symps is obviously dead...who are our two killers now? I believe you that Mockra is one but we need to find the other. If I guard them we can still win this.

Unless the loaded potato is still around I will be night killed tonight so we have to get scum on this lynch.

Just heal yourself.

[Mockra]

Osseric, on 07 May 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

ok, another x-post.


I am down with Mockra.

remove vote

vote mockra

Really Osseric? You'd rather go for Mockra instead of Ampelas? Or instead of Fener?

Based on Liosans words that he's a healer? Look where reveals got us into. Now, sit back and try to find out who is possibly having it easy here among us all.
I was under no pressure yesterday. I decided to voice my opinion and pick the most probable suspect out of you lot, because I was more intrested in getting a killer yesterday.Why would I do that? Why not ride D'riss train?

You people are falling for Liosans play all over the place. Framing me for everything that happens, and now suddenly you jump onto his every words, as if they are suddenly true.

Sit back and rethink it. Come up with a REASONABLE excuse as to why everything like this has happened.
You will not find any. Because there isn't any.

The clock is ticking, this is the weekend, and you have decisions to make.

If you don't believe me, I will hammer myself if need be, just to hand the game to Liosan and go into Spoilers and make fun at you. Which is what probably D'riss is doing RIGHT NOW. At least my concience will be clear, and my forhead clean.

[Fener]

Mockra, on 07 May 2010 - 05:31 PM, said:

Osseric, on 07 May 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

ok, another x-post.


I am down with Mockra.

remove vote

vote mockra

Really Osseric? You'd rather go for Mockra instead of Ampelas? Or instead of Fener?

Based on Liosans words that he's a healer? Look where reveals got us into. Now, sit back and try to find out who is possibly having it easy here among us all.
I was under no pressure yesterday. I decided to voice my opinion and pick the most probable suspect out of you lot, because I was more intrested in getting a killer yesterday.Why would I do that? Why not ride D'riss train?

You people are falling for Liosans play all over the place. Framing me for everything that happens, and now suddenly you jump onto his every words, as if they are suddenly true.

Sit back and rethink it. Come up with a REASONABLE excuse as to why everything like this has happened.
You will not find any. Because there isn't any.

The clock is ticking, this is the weekend, and you have decisions to make.

If you don't believe me, I will hammer myself if need be, just to hand the game to Liosan and go into Spoilers and make fun at you. Which is what probably D'riss is doing RIGHT NOW. At least my concience will be clear, and my forhead clean.

Really if I was scum you would be hammered right now.

[Mockra]

Fener, on 07 May 2010 - 05:32 PM, said:

Really if I was scum you would be hammered right now.

Point taken , Fener.
Still people did not bother with Ampelas at all. Did not sit back to try and evaluate things. Actions are based on ... momentum? And who has this momentum but Liosan at this point?

Stop riding his momentum and take some time to think it over.Liosan is framing me and his partner is Ampelas.

[Mockra]

I don't care if you people want to leave me hanging in L-1. Ampelas might be back any time soon, and I'm quite sure he will be happy to hammer me and then laugh over it in spoilers along with his buddy Liosan.

I will not give him that pleasure though. I will simply standing in that corner, along with D'riss pointing fingers at you and telling you 'We told you so'.

[Fener]

Can someone remove their vote so that we can discuss things with out Amp coming on and hammering Mockra. Thus proving his point and winning the game for the scum.

[Fener]

Mockra, on 07 May 2010 - 05:40 PM, said:

I don't care if you people want to leave me hanging in L-1. Ampelas might be back any time soon, and I'm quite sure he will be happy to hammer me and then laugh over it in spoilers along with his buddy Liosan.

I will not give him that pleasure though. I will simply standing in that corner, along with D'riss pointing fingers at you and telling you 'We told you so'.

Really now DKT wasn't about Liosan and Ampelas he was about Korbas. So it would just be your finger waving and Dkt's usual happy demeanor.

[Korbas]

remove vote

post reason after jic

[Liosan]

Mockra, on 07 May 2010 - 05:25 PM, said:

Liosan, on 07 May 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:

remove vote

Vote D'riss



Okay everyone just as I promised my big reveal. I have a strong feeling that I will be night killed and I wanted everyone to have this info.

I am a baked potato (healer)

Now this is why I suspect Mockra to be Meat. Day one Mockra for some reason just caught my attention. There was nothing specific just the general feel of his posts. I thought that if he caught my eye he may have caught a killer's eye as well so I healed him that first night. You see how well that worked out for the spuds. Also, when I sent in my pm to pathshaper to heal Mockra he came back and was a bit too curious in my book as to wanting to know why I chose him to heal. (I presume because he wanted to laugh at me) I thought that was odd as well. Not sure if it was relevant but it struck a chord with me, nonetheless

Day two Galain laid down a list of three players that stood out as slightly scummy and the one that stood out the most was Mockra. So I asked Galain what made you suspicious of Mockra but Galain didn't respond. So to test out my suspicions I healed Galain that night and we didn't have a night kill. Now I know that Korbas claimed to guard someone at night but as I posted earlier that could be because of one of 4 reasons.

First the killer chose not to use his kill. Highly unlikely

Second Korbas guarded D'riss and so the kill didn't go through. Possible but I'm in the shared kill boat for the two killers so I think it unlikely.

Now the third and fouth options are both highly, and equally likely. So If I'm wrong then I just lost the innos the game but if I'm right then we will be able to pull the win out.

Third option is that the killer tried to take out the Loaded Baked Potato and ran into the BP. If this happened then we as spuds are probably fucked but if

Fouth option happened then the scum was threatened by Galain's comments and tried to take him out on night 2. That scum would be Mockra.

This is RICH!!

This is really RICH!!

You got it all down to perfection Liosan, haven't you? Suddenly you dont look for potential suspects, no you are not intrested in these at ALL.All you are intrested is someone to frame. Instead of keeping a close eye on everyone , as you should, you simply pick up on the first guy to land the perfect framejob on.

Mockra is not afraid to get into a pissing contest with D'riss to get into the buttom of this *check*
Galain picks up Mockra as -one- of his suspects, so let's kill Galain tonight so we make it look like Mockra did it *check*
Reveal healer so people will have a hard time lynching us *check*

Sit back, relax, and laugh in everyones face while innos win the game for you *check*


How is everyone here falling for this guy, really? I have absolutely NO clue what so ever. Look at you sheep being proded left and right. Look where a guard reveal got us into. Look where a healer reveal will GET us into.You lot are following his logic, why? Because he got a funny feeling from his convertation with PS via PMs? Really? And that is grounds enough to start a case?

And now you're trying to speed lynch me with no reasons but Liosans words?

Okay here let's not speed lynch you

remove vote

That still doesn't mean that I don't think you are scum. We'll just get you lynched in a more orderly fashion. The only thing I know 100% for sure is that I was guarded last night because Galain is dead. Whether that was done by Korbas, which I believe it was, or by someone else I don't know for sure. As the killer targeted Galain two nights in a row he must have thought he was the loaded potato. We need to look at all posts that Galain made and see who he was suspicous of and I can guarantee you that our killer(s) can be found there. I don't want to lynch another potato and you are right in one thing Mockra, I have been too narrow in my focus on canidates.

I've got to go now. I've slacked off just a bit too much at work today.

[Korbas]

Looking back, Liosan did not say who he was healing on night 3. Now, obviously there's the obviously chance that he didn't want the killers to change their target. However, he didn't reveal who he did heal until after I said I had guarded him. Thus, he could say he healed Galain and claim my guard had stopped the kill, while actually being the killer. Make sense?

[Korbas]

Not necessarily saying I think Liosan is scum, I just agree that we need to be very careful at this point.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. The clock is frozen, but lynches may continue.

6 players are alive
Ampelas,Fener,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

4 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote Mockra (Osseric)


Not voted
Ampelas,Fener,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra

[Mockra]

Fener, on 07 May 2010 - 05:41 PM, said:

Really now DKT wasn't about Liosan and Ampelas he was about Korbas. So it would just be your finger waving and Dkt's usual happy demeanor.

Fener, its about reveals taken with a grain of salt. People followed on D'riss, and now due to another convenient 'reveal' they follow Liosan, who is trying to ride his momentum and have innos follow him.

Liosan, who had no pressure at all during the game, who simply skimmed the thread, not looking for killers but looking for the BEST lynch-frame canditade out of us all. Which is me at the moment because I got into a pissing contest with D'riss and because I somehow ended up into Galains suspect list which included other people.

This is a classic framejob, and the only one who's PI'ed in my eyes, at the moment, is Fener for not hammering me just of yet.

[Korbas]

Where has Ampelas been? I'd really like to hear him weigh in on the situation.

[Korbas]

At this point I'm thinking one of the two scum is definitely Ampelas. Right now Fener and Osseric are PI for me. Still not completely sure how I'm going to weigh in on the Liosan-Mockra thing. I guess I'll just go with the majority on that one unless I spot anything. Don't have a whole lot to go off of on Amp, other than I can't see Liosan and Mockra being scum so for me it's Liosan and Amp or Mockra and Amp. He also hasn't been around a whole lot, and if I remember right had a pretty poor reason for voting to lynch me back in day 2.

Tentatively, at least until we get some answers:

vote Ampelas

[Fener]

Here are all of the lynches. I had to include the last remaining votes of the first one because pathshaper wasn't kind enough to do so.

Path-Shaper, on 05 May 2010 - 05:15 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 5 minutes remain.

11 players are alive
Ampelas,Barghast,D'riss,Eloth,Fener,Galain,Hood's Path,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

6 votes to lynch. 6 votes to go to night


1 vote Galain (Korbas)
2 votes Hood's Path (D'riss, Barghast)
1 vote Korbas (Eloth)
4 votes Eloth (Hood's Path, Ampelas, Liosan, Galain)

Not voted
Fener,Mockra,Osseric

I think we're up to date now, sorry for the confusion.

Osseric, on 05 May 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:

vote eloth

he def. had the scummiest of plays

Mockra, on 05 May 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

vote Eloth

Fener, on 05 May 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

I Agree with a eloth lynch

vote eloth

Path-Shaper, on 06 May 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 6 minutes remain.

9 players are alive
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Hood's Path,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

5 votes to lynch. 5 votes to go to night.


3 votes Korbas (Ampelas, Osseric, Hood's Path)
5 votes Hood's Path (Galain, Korbas, Fener, Hood's Path, Osseric)
1 vote Mockra (D'riss)

Not voted
Liosan,Mockra

Thats a lynch - hold on a sec.

Path-Shaper, on 07 May 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:

It is Day 3. 46 minutes remain.

8 players are alive
Ampelas,D'riss,Fener,Galain,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

5 votes to lynch. 4 votes to go to night.

5 votes D'riss (Korbas,Osseric, Fener, Galain,Liosan)
1 vote Liosan (Mockra)
1 vote Korbas (D'riss)


Not voted
Ampelas

Doesn't really give us that much information.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 4. The clock is frozen, but lynches may continue.

6 players are alive
Ampelas,Fener,Korbas,Liosan,Mockra,Osseric

4 votes to lynch. 3 votes to go to night.

1 vote Mockra (Osseric)
1 vote Ampelas (Korbas)

Not voted
Ampelas,Fener,Liosan,Mockra

[Mockra]

Fener, on 07 May 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:

Doesn't really give us that much information.

It does.

Every train has either Korbas or Liosan in it, and the last one has both of them on, with Osseric coming in as well.

11 players, 2 killers 1 symp setup. Korbas posts a lot , Liosan not so much, and they even made a fake attempt at each other.I picked up some things, tried to get Liosan cornered, and 'somehow someway' the NKs and their reasoning points at me.Both revealed, somehow both are considered PI'ed in every ones eyes, and their ONLY defence was that each ones defence is based on each others word.

Plus these three TRIED to speed lynch me based on momentum, when we are on a weekend freeze and we could talk things over instead of rushing. Rushing only benefits scum as every information team inno gets is based on posts on this thread.

There is only ONE team that would benefit from a speed lynch, based on everything that is currently going on at the moment, and these are scum.

[Osseric]

Well here is how I see it and really unless Liosan and Korbas are on the same team, I think I have it right.

I am guessing that Scum didn't target Korbas last night because they thought our healer would Target the Guard. So they targeted the person they failed to kill before. The 2 scum Knew there was a healer running around because the guard wouldn't have worked on both and their Kill didn't go through. They also knew Korbas' reveal was legit..because he wasn't one of them.

So Liosan plays it tricky, and heals Galain. Korbas Guards Liosan. This was all stated on thread POST LYNCH, PRE NA RESULTS.

So Liosan's heal doesn't go through, and Galain gets NK'd.


As I know I am inno, and I believe the 2 reveals, because we still have no counter reveals, I am PI ing Lio and Korbas. That Leaves Fener Mockra and Amp.

There are 2 scum Left and we had Mockra at L-1 and Fener wouldn't vote. He is now CI in my eyes because he could have ended the game and won it for the scum if he would have hammered.

That Leaves Mockra and Ampleas for the scum.



The only real question is, does Fener/Korbas/Lio think I am scum. That will tell the tale. I am the only person that scum can really target at this point for a lynch. Which I expect them to do. Korbas and Lio basically VPI'd eachother and no one can think Fener is scum. ( unless mockra turns out to be scum, but we can re-evaluate then)

Thats just how I see it.

[Osseric]

Mockra, on 07 May 2010 - 06:40 PM, said:

Fener, on 07 May 2010 - 06:25 PM, said:

Doesn't really give us that much information.

It does.

Every train has either Korbas or Liosan in it, and the last one has both of them on, with Osseric coming in as well.

11 players, 2 killers 1 symp setup. Korbas posts a lot , Liosan not so much, and they even made a fake attempt at each other.I picked up some things, tried to get Liosan cornered, and 'somehow someway' the NKs and their reasoning points at me.Both revealed, somehow both are considered PI'ed in every ones eyes, and their ONLY defence was that each ones defence is based on each others word.

Plus these three TRIED to speed lynch me based on momentum, when we are on a weekend freeze and we could talk things over instead of rushing. Rushing only benefits scum as every information team inno gets is based on posts on this thread.

There is only ONE team that would benefit from a speed lynch, based on everything that is currently going on at the moment, and these are scum.

So you are saying that the Town has no roles at all in this game? Better PM ampleas real quick, tell him to Reveal as the healer. I know I am roleless, and I think anyone that had a role these 2 were claiming would have countered by now. It's clear we got the symp already.