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Mafia 61 - Liu Bei's Conspiracy Romance of the Three Kingdoms: Chapter 4

#821 User is offline   Korbas 

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:25 AM

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you've got to be fucking kidding me.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:35 AM

The officials had been stranded in the Prime Minister's palace for four days, and many were reaching a breaking point. As evening approached, one man did not emerge from his room and would not respond to any calls from the hall. The palace staff knocked on the door, saying, "Fu Wan! His eminence approaches soon for the evening meal. You must come out!" There was no response, and when Yuan Shao arrived, he ordered the guard to open the room by force. When it opened, its occupant was found inside, dead. Shao's physician knelt over the body and said, "This man has not opened his mouth in days. He has died of dehydration."

Kaschan (Gwynn ap Nudd) was modkilled. He was Fu Wan, First Secretary of the Han.

Shao returned to the officials at the banquet. With the knowledge provided by the informant, Qin Qintong, as well as his own officers' inquiries, the Prime Minister was certain that the Imperial Uncle Liu Bei was the chief conspirator. But accusing, let alone, arresting a honoured relative of Emperor Xian remained above the privileges of his rank, and he was irritated that the court had not yet convicted the man, despite his Grand Marshall guiding them to that very conclusion. So it was with great pleasure that Yuan Shao received the solemn pronouncement of the gathered officials declaring that the Imperial Uncle Liu Bei seemed to be conspiring against the Prime Minister, and therefore the Han Dynasty itself.

"It saddens me greatly to give this order," Shao said, "but the responsibilities imposed upon me by such a consensus of the officials of the Secretariat, Chancellery and Department of State Affairs surpasses the privileges and duties of all men who serve the Son of Heaven. Guards, please escort the Imperial Uncle to the gaol."

As Liu Bei was being escorted out, he made a discreet hand gesture that was unremarked by most at the court. A select few men, however, noted the gesture and saw that it pointed to the official Jian Yong, who in turn was watching the Prime Minister exchange glances with the Grand Marshall Chunyu Qiong.

Spite (Gavin) is dead. He was Liu Bei, Imperial Uncle.

In the morning, only Yang Dajang appeared to lead the officials through the lengthy debate of the extent of the Imperial Uncle's involvement. A search party soon found Chunyu Qiong's remains hidden in an abandoned cellar. When news of this tragedy reached Yuan Shao, he openly weeped at the loss and ordered his bailiffs to renew their efforts at torturing Ji Ping for the other conspirators' names. He then sent orders for Chunyu Qiong to be buried with the highest honours ever given to one of three Elder Lords.

Liosan (Obdigore) is dead. He was Chunyu Qiong, Grand Marshall of the Han.

(scenes edited by D'rek later for multi-game continuity)


Ji Ping had just bitten off the tip of his finger to show Liu Bei his loyalty to removing the Prime Minister. "I only hope you are sincere," Liu Bei said, covering his face; then he handed Ji Ping the Emperor's secret edict, adding, "Our prospects are poor now, with Huang Zhong and Ma Teng gone. My worries over our inability to act have made me ill." "You have nothing to worry about," the physician replied. "The traitor's life is in these hands. He suffers from chronic headaches, with pain that pierces his marrow. The moment one comes on, he calls for me; and the next time he does, I will administer a treatment sure to kill him. Why bother with weapons?" "If we succeed in this," Liu Bei answered, "the sacred shrines of the Han will owe their salvation to you." Ji Ping then took his leave.



It is Day 5. Timer frozen at 28 hours remaining.
12 Players still alive: Korvalain, Sorrit, Galain, Hood's Path, D'riss, Karosis, Karatallid, Alkend, Tulas Shorn, Korbas, Gamelon, Eloth

No one has voted.


Weekend freeze is in effect -> the day timer is stopped but if lynches occur they will end day, night will be resolved and the next day will begin, again frozen.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 April 2010 - 03:38 AM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:39 AM

One fucker down, another to go...

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:43 AM

Wish Liosan could have made public his NA before leaving... Could have helped clear out another name off the list.




EDIT: I dont even know if that's allowed. Is there a reason someone might not be allowed to say 'I will do soandso during the night' on the thread?

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:49 AM

Well, that went pretty much as we thought.

imo gamelon is probably a symp...but i feel we are better served looking for the other killer. not sure where to start, but it's the weekend so don't have much time. back sporadically

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:51 AM

I would think, probably think anyone 4th or later on the train, and anyone that showed some opposition to the lynch, maybe Eloth... though I doubt a partner would be that obvious... anyway, out for a while

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:56 AM

i'm tempted to say Korbas, tbh.

also, he was Liu Bei. I think we got an inherited kill after all.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 02:58 AM

sorry, not Korbas, Karosis. Stupid friggin K names....

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 03:26 AM

D'rek here. I just changed the scenes above for those who already read. No disrespect to PB's scenes, but they didn't exactly fit my vision of events, hence the change.

Note the weekend freeze.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 April 2010 - 03:26 AM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 24 April 2010 - 03:44 AM

after that scene looks like an inherited kill, also I still worry about the Doc.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 03:47 AM

I thought we already decided the Doc had been caught and these are prologue-ish scenes to the real-time events of the game. However, having said that, Bei mentioning two names and the theories on Omtose and Kesso could add up.

So, who knows.

I'm going to start drinking heavily.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 04:53 AM

hmm
it would appear, I've lost my External hard drive to a partition failure. AGAIN.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 06:51 AM

View PostAlkend, on 24 April 2010 - 02:58 AM, said:

sorry, not Korbas, Karosis. Stupid friggin K names....


I still stand by my opinion that lynching Spite was the wrong thing to do. I think we should at least have tried to see if we couldnt get another night with no kill, but it seems that noone agreed with me. Without the extra night to confirm it, we can't know for sure that the kill was passed on, but in the case that it is, I would think the people that were eager to vote Spite off as opposed to keeping him alive would most likely be scum - the scum would know that the worst thing that could happen to them would be us keeping the killer from killing while hunting for the other scum.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 06:55 AM

I see what you are saying, but honestly I think it's better to have a dead scum than leave them hanging around, because Mafia can take weird turns. I've seen scum who've hung around manage to finagle their way out of the most ridiculous of situations because they weren't lynched and a CF never got realized.

With Spite dead, we KNOW that those who defended him or were connected to him are possible scum. Absent that CF, despite how probable his CF is, it's still a wild damned goose chase.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:22 AM

Good to see Lui suck the big one.

Gamelon is interesting now, because he said he guarded Liosan night two... yet no kill went through when Liosan was guarding Spite. I think Gamelon is either the one to inherit the kill or another symp.

Since he was at much pain to make his point that he wasn't calling Liosan a liar, I think his game plan was to keep Spite alive and yet not start a fight against a PI/CI. I think he's the new killer.

I'll be on most of the morning but will be out as of the afternoon, probably til tomorrow.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:23 AM

Liosan (Guard cum Healer) was Chunyu Qiong, one of two named Town roles.

And now....:

Gamelon!

View PostGamelon, on 23 April 2010 - 08:18 AM, said:

Alright i have caught up.

I see that there is quite alot going on and also that allot of people are operating under false information.
Im actually torn here as to what to do but ill reveal now as i feel information is quite relevant at this time.

I am Gao Lan, General of Heavenly Might

I am a guard and i guarded liosan on night 2.
Last night i guarded Karatalid.
What i dont get about liosans story though is how he is a guard AND a healer.
While i just got plain old guard?


I think there is the possibility that liosan is a symp and has used his "inno" CF mistake byt the mods to his advantage and has now is recking mayhen.
Ofcourse he could also be telling the truth as well, and the no kills are a result of something else entirely.

But i had to let you guys know that Liosan was NOT blocking shit oin night 2.
So if liosan is a symp...who is he distracting from with his reveal?



Hahahaha.

Okay, so you guarded Liosan night 2, so Spite wasn't guarded. And yet, there wasn't a kill. Okay.
You just get plain guard as opposed to Liosan, who gets Guard cum Healer. Too bad.
Liosan is possibly a symp, because you guarded him and "Liosan was NOT blocking shit oin night 2." And yet....

View PostGamelon, on 23 April 2010 - 08:32 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on 21 April 2010 - 04:03 PM, said:

Ok, Reveal and why:

In the first edition of the lynch/night post by PS regarding last night, I died, with my alt/role listed.

I am Chunyu Qiong, and I am Big Pimpen in Ancient China. As far as I am aware, I have no kind of BP, so I assume I got healed last night, thank you. I do have a power which I will not reveal at this time.

Edit: I r gud spellr.



Also his reveal is the only one thats different to every other name we have seen so far.
Everyone else has a proper title so far like General, inspector, commandant or counselor.

But his is different. Seems to me he did not want to perhaps name himself as one of the symps title?




anyways...like i said earlier.
He could still be telling the truth and just have not known any better, and if thats the case i wouldnot lynch him.
Rather look for the person he was potentially trying to symp if he is a symp.
Like Sorrit?...he was up for lynch at the time no? Or was it Alkend?

no wait yea... was alkend


His reveal is "different" because it was unique. He didn't want to name himself a title, right? Like LORD MARSHALL, a dead fucking giveaway?

Who could this liar, liar, pants on fire, be symping?

He chooses Alkend. Alkend who was almost lynched the night before, miraculously enough. This point makes complete sense from both the symp and RI viewpoint, strangely enough.

Here's the VOTE to DISTRACT.

View PostGamelon, on 23 April 2010 - 08:33 AM, said:

oh....

vote Alkend


And, here's the distracting reasoning. It makes sympish sense to do this. Who better than Alkend to frame?

View PostGamelon, on 23 April 2010 - 09:06 AM, said:

Another thing is that even though liosan was online right at the end of day 4

It was alkend at L-1 ...with him needing to vote or get no lynch....he refused (well ignored the call) to vote alkend.
Which is another tick against him being a symp for alkend in my opinion.


Endgame:

View PostGamelon, on 23 April 2010 - 09:12 AM, said:

View PostHood, on 23 April 2010 - 09:00 AM, said:

I dont know, my first instinct is Liosan's stance makes more sense, and this reveal is Gamelon the symp coming on in attempt to save his leader.



I have no problem lynching Spite if we cant get another lynch.

All i know for a fact is....we are lyching spite because of false information. Now why this info is false could be one of two reasons.
Liosan is a lying symp, trying to get alkend off everyones radar.

Or liosan is telling the truth and simply made a case from false information, thinking he did in fact block a kill.


We are lynching Spite because of false information.

Seriously.

Despite the fact that Spite was who nearly EVERYONE ELSE thought he was, and was a NAMED SCUM.

You sir are a SYMP of the most epic of proportions.

Now, while you aren't necessarily the new killer, you are most certainly connected to him somehow.

We are now looking for Jian Yong, the other named Scum who has either inherited the kill or is another role.

At this point, an inherited kill could have gone as equally to Jian Yong as it did to Gamelon's character.

Vote Gamelon.

Edit: To clarify.

This post has been edited by Galain: 24 April 2010 - 07:30 AM


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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:30 AM

Are you assuming that Gamelon gave his real name? After all, he's not going to call himself Jian Yong in his fake reveal, is he?

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:33 AM

View PostKorvalain, on 24 April 2010 - 07:30 AM, said:

Are you assuming that Gamelon gave his real name? After all, he's not going to call himself Jian Yong in his fake reveal, is he?


No, I'm assuming he's lying. That's pretty damned obvious isn't it?

I'm assuming "Gao Lan of Heavenly Might" is completely made up.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:37 AM

Ok, well we're in agreement on that :Urb:

Off to get my mullet touched up, back in a little while.

vote Gamelon

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 07:38 AM

It's obvious the Liosan was actually blocking the killer. Otherwise, he would have died night 3 after having revealed. Thus, only after Lui Bei dies, does the new inherited killer become unfettered and is able to kill because he is unblocked.

If Gamelon's story was correct, Lui Bei would have killed somebody night 2, as he was unblocked thanks to Gamelon blocking the ACTUAL ROLED INNO GUARD. Since that didn't happen, we can only assume Liosan WAS NOT BLOCKED, guarded Lui Bei/Spite, and Gamelon is lying through his teeth about it.

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