[D'riss]

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 06:21 PM, said:

That's worth a grain of salt at this point in time. He could be trying to separate himself from Eloth by "throwing" him under the bus. He won't CF as anything we haven't seen before, according to HP, so we'll have no way of knowing whether or not HP is is telling the truth until Alkend gets on and doesn't counter as the other roled inno.

Agreed, so we're waiting for Alkend to drop by, and see if he counters Hood's Path in his claims.

[Tulas Shorn]

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

There was a part of me yesterday who wanted to vote for Hoods Path as I thought you were a symp Korbas, for bringing out your "case" against me, and as HP was the only other candidate than Korv, and Korv got dead real fast, that left him the remaining possibility. But again, that is a severely biased train of thought.

HP is a symp he is just a symp for Eloth. He makes a reveal on me that is immpossible to prove or to disprove. Anything that I say will be taken as something that a symp would say. He makes the reveal with only a couple of hours left in the day. Knowing that I am at the doctors office and probably won't be able to get on to defend myself at all. The throws out a couple of earlier posts none of which are coded to show that he is a symp who can plan. Then he makes his move.

Sweet Jesus I know that I haven't been a high poster this game but I was in the middle up till the weekend and this has been the week from hell.

HP have you only investigated people who are left alive other then Barghast. You didn't do an investigation of Gamelon after he claimed to be a guard, guarding Liosan who was guarding the killer. To me that would have been a good investigation. If gamelon wasn't a symp then he was probably telling the truth and YOU HD let us lynch a Guard.

[Sorrit]

The only issue is that Alkend probably won't be back before lynch ( if his current posting patters hold) So we at least have to make a lynch decision, and I don't see how we can decide on anyone other than Tulas at this point. I suppose we have enough to swing to an Eloth vote.. but I won't do that as I don't think he is scum.

[Korbas]

Right, I've got to go and it hardly seems like Alkend will turn up before the deadline. When all is said and done whether he reveals today or tomorrow, it hardly matters in the end, no?

So, I'll be hammering in about ten min.

[Korbas]

Sorrit, on 28 April 2010 - 06:39 PM, said:

The only issue is that Alkend probably won't be back before lynch ( if his current posting patters hold) So we at least have to make a lynch decision, and I don't see how we can decide on anyone other than Tulas at this point. I suppose we have enough to swing to an Eloth vote.. but I won't do that as I don't think he is scum.

You've been saying on that on regular intervals for the last few days, but I don't entirely see where you get it from. What is it that makes Eloth a PI?

[Galain]

Hood, on 28 April 2010 - 05:06 PM, said:

Ok, the time, I believe, is finally right for my reveal.

I am Chief of the Secretariat, Yang Dajang.

I am not a healer. I am a finder of those who are part of the conspiracy against Yuan Shao. Which means I do not find the main leaders of the conspiracy, but rather I find those who have joined.

-------

Further evidence I am what I claim -

If you go back to the Gamelon vote, you will see that I state in more than one post that I think Gamelon is a symp, but that he is not the replacement killer. That is because I did a find on Gamelon the night we lynched Spite, and I came back with positive results (so I knew he was just a symp, not a killer, before we actually voted him off.)

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 09:26 AM, said:

Ok, first and foremost I agree that Gamelon is likely a symp, and lynching him at the very least pushes back D-Day of Scum majority.

But I think it is also important to discuss other suspects, because there is NO guarantee that the kill passed on to Gamelon. I would suspect a lowly symp would be the more likely role to come forward to try to save Spite, not the person who would inherit the kill.

Hood, on 24 April 2010 - 09:58 AM, said:

Was there really any chance for Gamelon to avoid getting attacked the next day when Spite turned up scum? See the beginning of my post, I highly highly doubt anything other than a normal symp would come forward to try to save Spite.

Vote Tulas Shorn

He said he did a find on Gamelon, Tulas. Underlined above.

[Sorrit]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 06:36 PM, said:

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

There was a part of me yesterday who wanted to vote for Hoods Path as I thought you were a symp Korbas, for bringing out your "case" against me, and as HP was the only other candidate than Korv, and Korv got dead real fast, that left him the remaining possibility. But again, that is a severely biased train of thought.

HP is a symp he is just a symp for Eloth. He makes a reveal on me that is immpossible to prove or to disprove. Anything that I say will be taken as something that a symp would say. He makes the reveal with only a couple of hours left in the day. Knowing that I am at the doctors office and probably won't be able to get on to defend myself at all. The throws out a couple of earlier posts none of which are coded to show that he is a symp who can plan. Then he makes his move.

Sweet Jesus I know that I haven't been a high poster this game but I was in the middle up till the weekend and this has been the week from hell.

HP have you only investigated people who are left alive other then Barghast. You didn't do an investigation of Gamelon after he claimed to be a guard, guarding Liosan who was guarding the killer. To me that would have been a good investigation. If gamelon wasn't a symp then he was probably telling the truth and YOU HD let us lynch a Guard.

You are ignoring the fact that no one has counter claimed. He claimed the last named inno. ( can't remember the name) . So unless Alkend pops up and claims that role, we have no reason to believe that HP is lying.

[Tulas Shorn]

Sorrit, on 28 April 2010 - 06:11 PM, said:

So are you claiming the final roled inno role Tulas?

Even if we vote you off, if you don't come back as the named Inno role, AND HP isn't NK'd we still haven't had a counter claim. Everyone but Alkend has checked in, and he will check in tonight.

by voting you off, we can determint if HP is telling the truth, because if Alkend doesn't claim roled inno ( and why would he if he is inno) then we know HP is telling the truth.

YOU guys are just handing the game to the scum aren't you. Waiting to see if there is a counter claim to a bullshit role. When I am lynched you won't know shit. HP said himself that there is no way to test his claim. If I was a symp then I am going to come up the same as everyone else.

The only thing that my lynch will do wrongly PI HP for you idiots for the rest of the game.

OH and I am not a roled player. I would highly suggest that no roled player comes forward.

Are you guys even using your fontal lobes. I at least have an excuse for being retarded. My head hurts a lot.

[Galain]

Are you reading, Tulas? No one will have even remotely PI'd HP until no one counterclaims.

[Tulas Shorn]

Sorrit, on 28 April 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 06:36 PM, said:

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

There was a part of me yesterday who wanted to vote for Hoods Path as I thought you were a symp Korbas, for bringing out your "case" against me, and as HP was the only other candidate than Korv, and Korv got dead real fast, that left him the remaining possibility. But again, that is a severely biased train of thought.

HP is a symp he is just a symp for Eloth. He makes a reveal on me that is immpossible to prove or to disprove. Anything that I say will be taken as something that a symp would say. He makes the reveal with only a couple of hours left in the day. Knowing that I am at the doctors office and probably won't be able to get on to defend myself at all. The throws out a couple of earlier posts none of which are coded to show that he is a symp who can plan. Then he makes his move.

Sweet Jesus I know that I haven't been a high poster this game but I was in the middle up till the weekend and this has been the week from hell.

HP have you only investigated people who are left alive other then Barghast. You didn't do an investigation of Gamelon after he claimed to be a guard, guarding Liosan who was guarding the killer. To me that would have been a good investigation. If gamelon wasn't a symp then he was probably telling the truth and YOU HD let us lynch a Guard.

You are ignoring the fact that no one has counter claimed. He claimed the last named inno. ( can't remember the name) . So unless Alkend pops up and claims that role, we have no reason to believe that HP is lying.

You are not thinking at all are you. The roled player isn't going to come forward because he isn't going to counter reveal and make himself a target for HP's master.

[Korbas]

Right, well that's it for me.

I've got to go, and in the interest of there actually being a lynch.

Tulas Shorn

Is this my second hammer? I believe it is. Makes me feel all powerful

[Sorrit]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 06:43 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 28 April 2010 - 06:11 PM, said:

So are you claiming the final roled inno role Tulas?

Even if we vote you off, if you don't come back as the named Inno role, AND HP isn't NK'd we still haven't had a counter claim. Everyone but Alkend has checked in, and he will check in tonight.

by voting you off, we can determint if HP is telling the truth, because if Alkend doesn't claim roled inno ( and why would he if he is inno) then we know HP is telling the truth.

YOU guys are just handing the game to the scum aren't you. Waiting to see if there is a counter claim to a bullshit role. When I am lynched you won't know shit. HP said himself that there is no way to test his claim. If I was a symp then I am going to come up the same as everyone else.

The only thing that my lynch will do wrongly PI HP for you idiots for the rest of the game.

OH and I am not a roled player. I would highly suggest that no roled player comes forward.

Are you guys even using your fontal lobes. I at least have an excuse for being retarded. My head hurts a lot.

Answer this question. If HP is Lying, why wouldn't the real Roled inno, the named roled inno, reveal and give us a for-sure scum lynch?

When you are lynched, and after Alkend comes on, we WILL know if HP is telling the truth. Simple as that. We get a scum either way. and WCS it's 3 vs 1.

[Galain]

Seeing as I'm here ready and willing, and stated that above, there being a lynch wasn't in doubt, Korbas.

[Sorrit]

bah, x-post with the hammer.

[Sorrit]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 06:45 PM, said:

Sorrit, on 28 April 2010 - 06:41 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 06:36 PM, said:

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 05:57 PM, said:

There was a part of me yesterday who wanted to vote for Hoods Path as I thought you were a symp Korbas, for bringing out your "case" against me, and as HP was the only other candidate than Korv, and Korv got dead real fast, that left him the remaining possibility. But again, that is a severely biased train of thought.

HP is a symp he is just a symp for Eloth. He makes a reveal on me that is immpossible to prove or to disprove. Anything that I say will be taken as something that a symp would say. He makes the reveal with only a couple of hours left in the day. Knowing that I am at the doctors office and probably won't be able to get on to defend myself at all. The throws out a couple of earlier posts none of which are coded to show that he is a symp who can plan. Then he makes his move.

Sweet Jesus I know that I haven't been a high poster this game but I was in the middle up till the weekend and this has been the week from hell.

HP have you only investigated people who are left alive other then Barghast. You didn't do an investigation of Gamelon after he claimed to be a guard, guarding Liosan who was guarding the killer. To me that would have been a good investigation. If gamelon wasn't a symp then he was probably telling the truth and YOU HD let us lynch a Guard.

You are ignoring the fact that no one has counter claimed. He claimed the last named inno. ( can't remember the name) . So unless Alkend pops up and claims that role, we have no reason to believe that HP is lying.

You are not thinking at all are you. The roled player isn't going to come forward because he isn't going to counter reveal and make himself a target for HP's master.

Just to counter this point. at this point in the game a Scum death> roled inno death. We are getting down to crunch time. A roled player would HAVE to counter reveal a blatant lie.

[Eloth]

The last time I checked I may do idiotic things but I wouldn't screw myself over like that, also I think if I did that I would be going on people lists, and cosidering how easy it is to alt guess me I would surpass q21 record which I do not want to do.

Right let go through this if we kept spite alive.

Liosan would be here, HP most likely might have done a find on Gamelon and Tulas for whatever reason that he picked them. That two confirmed symps down if we believe HP which i do.

That leaves two main scum, one which we knopw and we don't and the last symp could have been either kesso or korvalain.

That leaves only one unknown. There would be 10 players today.

Three of them as known roles cause if we went with the plan and it was clear i was correct HP could reveal.

That leaves seven players to find at worst two scum in. They would be fucking pissed. As the only advantage that scum left in that scenario is unfindable and will need to be lynched. But following lynches suggested by liosan or HP would have been safer. AS we can take their word on what they are saying.

Also at if gamelon , kesso and tulas are the symps then it would have left at worst case scenario leaves the two main scum. When it get two five players you lynch Spite, but before you do so Liosan say which person he has guarded there only two people he can guard. If there is a kill then the killer is fucked.

Now the only way that as a killer I could win that scenario is to withhold the kill, but in that case liosan keep sputting the guard up and the remaining players do not lynch. The second there a kill the killer is done for. Or you keep this up and it a draw instead.

MY plan if followed through on the basis that all symps werer killed would have guaranteed victory for town.

And your saying as scum I was willing to suggest such a plan and convince people that it would work.

Galain you are talking out of your fucking arse.

Hell we can even take that plan further, as missing symps would allow a chance for scum to win. We would lynch whoever that HP found as symps. the second everyone is cleared we go through with normal lynching. So based on the roles that have been revealed unless there been an ingenious scum the plan was a foolproof way to win the game for the innos.

Whoever suggests that I'm scum for suggesting a fool proof plan for team inno to win must get their fucking heads checked.

[Tulas Shorn]

blah...blah...blah...

This post has been edited by Tulas Shorn: 28 April 2010 - 07:10 PM

[Eloth]

That my fucking defense I'm not going to argue it any further.

[Sorrit]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 April 2010 - 07:07 PM, said:

Galain, on 28 April 2010 - 06:44 PM, said:

Are you reading, Tulas? No one will have even remotely PI'd HP until no one counterclaims.

That is the thing why would anyone counterclaim. It will just get them killed.


OH and I hadn't seen that HP said that he had investigated Gamelon. Nice cover.

Well I am not a symp so feel free to lynch me. But I won't vote for myself.

I think you are dead man.

[Galain]

I am talking out of my ass. I've been accused of not giving out any of who I was suspicious of, and the stand by, "everyone" doesn't cut it this late in the game. My PM's will indicate that those are my thoughts. I've admitted I've had trouble sifting out he scum, it's why I haven't offered my opinion so far, Eloth. Because there isn't much to go behind it more than gut and certain tendencies.

Sorry if I mortally offended you by saying you might be scum. But, well, you might be scum. You could be a very good scum. I don't know, and that's the point. I didn't make a "case" because I don't have one to make on you or D'riss. Mostly my own thoughts. I'll be the first to admit I don't have a lot of time to go back and do re-reads of the game, and thus most of my suspicions come from having read through once, and as cogently as possible as I could.