[Defiance]

So, what did he reconsider (his last words were something like I have reconsidered...). It seems to me like he made some sort of deal with Anomander that he'd be killed by Dragnipur, but changed his mind at the last minute? He seemed content enough inside Dragnipur though (didn't seem too bent out of shape about not ruling a warren anymore). Could someone perhaps enlighten me to the nature of the deal that was made? I'm sure there is a ton of evidence in the book as to what the deal was even if it wasn't stated outright, however I've only read each book once and as such it's hard to recall past details.

Also, what the hell happened to the moon? Will it ever be explained? Something with the spider godess and Mogora (spelling?). I remember the moon got all close when Mappo was healed, although that was just illusion or something of the like...I really need to do a reread of the series.

Spoiler

I'm about 230 pages into DoD, and to my knowledge the moon is still around...I think there was one sentence about the broken moon in the prologue but that's it. I find it odd that no one has mentioned the moon yet, or rather the absence of it. I see two reasons - 1) The events in DoD so far are occuring at roughly the same time as TtH or 2) The moon somehow repaired itself, I think it was said that a new moon would take its place or something near the end of TtH.

First option, to me, seems more likely - I think that QB or someone would know that Hood and Rake died

[HoosierDaddy]

Hood's stating a reconsideration could be a ton of things. I'm just going to assume it was going into Dragnipur. Maybe he was feeling heady after having actually been able to do something good for a while (the Darujhistan detective/officer), and had a momentary second thought.

DoD and Toll overlap at some points in the time duration. You'll obviously come to sections later that confirm this.

The fairly accepted forum theory is that at the same time Jade Giants were heading for Wu in TB, many struck the most visible moon. The reverberations of that caused an explosion and the big moon was shattered.

[Deragoth]

I'm fairly sure he was reconsidering having his head chopped off by a giant sword.

[Gothos]

Yeah, the head chopping is important, but hell. There's some stuff in DoD that might shed some light on the issue, with what happens to Hood and all.

Also, I think he might've had second thoughts about the other gods finally having to take care of their dead, and their efficacy.

[Aptorian]

I've always looked at Hoods last words as a joke. Jaghut humor.

[Ulrik]

Yep, it looked to me like great joke. "Oh, Rake, wait a moment, that sword is really sharp...isnt there other way? Hehe, just joking, chop my head off."

[Sinisdar Toste]

as to the moon, like you say, some events do overlap and there's been a lot of discussion on why nobody has mentioned the moon. my opinion is that, despite the fact that it did shatter, the larger fragments collapsed back on themselves making the moon just look like a hazy, misshapen blur, which is kind of what it had been looking like for a while.

[Defiance]

I love all the varied answers, it's great to see so many opinions/theories on a thing like this. I guess it's one of the things I really enjoy about Erikson's writing - sometimes he never gives you a concrete answer and instead leaves it to the reader to determine exactly what occured.

One thing I do hope we get an answer on is the Jaghut War on Death.

[Harvester]

I read that scene yesterday and was like "What the fucking hell just happened?!". After my shock had faded a bit, I tried to make sense of Hood's last words. Yeah, I thought he was reconsidering being chopped to pieces and killed by a giant sword. But now... I like the idea of Jaghut humour, hadn't thought of that.
Haha, Hood you witty bastard.

This post has been edited by Harvester: 30 March 2010 - 11:34 PM

[Gathras]

I also thought that it was some kind of Jaghut humour. If he had decided that he would not want to be killed by Rake than he probably wouldn't have shown up there anyway since it was pretty unlikely that Rake would just go like "Oh, ok...well then, nice seeing you, till next time."

[Aptorian]

It is possible that when he saw the sword and the Son of Darkness he suffered a momentary lapse in willpower, someone above mentioned that Hood may have been swayed by him actually saving a life for once (a good feeling), and that could have lead him to pause.

But really, it's Hood, Jaghut are well known for their dry humor.

[haroos]

well, there's another answer too, psychological one :
if i remember correctly the jaghut had a war against death, for a reason of their own, and now he faces death.

[ffunky]

I think that scene was awesome.

Imagine Hood, God of death, to be, in the end, AFRAID of dying.

[zenMichael]

hell, who knows, with the MASSIVE SUPERAWESOME army he'd collected, maybe he was going to say, 'i've reconsidered. there's no need for you to follow me in afterwards. i mean, shit dude, i've got whiskeyjack. he's awesome. you just go get a beer.'

probably unlikely, but why not, right?

i love the idea that it was jaghut humor, tho. hadn't thought of that myself, but it seems to fit hood well (though the momentary fear is also nice).

[Blueiron]

Gathras, on 31 March 2010 - 07:16 AM, said:

I also thought that it was some kind of Jaghut humour. If he had decided that he would not want to be killed by Rake than he probably wouldn't have shown up there anyway since it was pretty unlikely that Rake would just go like "Oh, ok...well then, nice seeing you, till next time."

I can't belive I missed that. Typical Jaghut dessicated humour! That's hilarious.

[Tatterdemalion]

In the epi Envy says, "My father. He's back.""
Obviously, this means Draconus has been thrust out of Dragnipur upon its smashing by Brood.

DoD spoiler:

Spoiler

This matches with the endpoint of DoD when Draconus appears in one of the best entrances since Batman entered anywhere. After reading the end to book 8 tonight, I immediately synced the events of this book up with DoD occuring at roughly the same time (although it might make Karsa's journeys tricky to time). Thus, throughout MOST of DoD I would expect the moon to be fully whole, and only at the end be a shattered mess.

This post has been edited by Tatterdemalion: 18 February 2011 - 06:14 AM

[HedgeWalker]

Blueiron, on 26 January 2011 - 03:28 AM, said:

Gathras, on 31 March 2010 - 07:16 AM, said:

I also thought that it was some kind of Jaghut humour. If he had decided that he would not want to be killed by Rake than he probably wouldn't have shown up there anyway since it was pretty unlikely that Rake would just go like "Oh, ok...well then, nice seeing you, till next time."

I can't belive I missed that. Typical Jaghut dessicated humour! That's hilarious.

Heh - on the downstroke, Hood says "Oh, Just one more thing to tell y...<thunk>".

Great perspective, thanks. Jaghut's rock.

[King-of-Chains]

Since we're on the topic of Hood, something else has come to my mind. Tulas Shorn. When he runs into Kallow he tells Kallor that the Jaghut assembled an army eons ago to fight in a hopless war against Death. Later it's revealed that Hood is infact a Jaghut. While the idea of Jaghut trying to kill Hood isn't at all mind boggling, quite the opposite it seems rather logical. I have to ask, why? My theory is that they viewed him as the first Jaghut Tyrrant. However, it seems rather flimsy. Any other ideas?

[Aptorian]

King-of-Chains, on 24 February 2011 - 06:40 AM, said:

Since we're on the topic of Hood, something else has come to my mind. Tulas Shorn. When he runs into Kallow he tells Kallor that the Jaghut assembled an army eons ago to fight in a hopless war against Death. Later it's revealed that Hood is infact a Jaghut. While the idea of Jaghut trying to kill Hood isn't at all mind boggling, quite the opposite it seems rather logical. I have to ask, why? My theory is that they viewed him as the first Jaghut Tyrrant. However, it seems rather flimsy. Any other ideas?

You've mistaken the situation.

In the Elder Times, for some reason we have yet to understand, a huge army of millions of Jaghut and other Elder people marched on Death. The leader of that army was Hood, the Lord of Hosts. How that war ended is not known, but the Jaghut were crushed it seems and well, Death is still around.

Somehow Hood ended up becoming the God of Death in the meantime. Most likely his ascension to God of Death was connected with this.

Before he became the God of Death he was known as the Death Wanderer, suggesting that even in the oldest times of Wandering, before the Holds, Hood was around and a person of great power. What his connection do death was back then is unsure, but it might have something to do with the Jaghut Bridge of Death we see in Bonehunters.

This post has been edited by Clockwork Apt: 24 February 2011 - 07:41 AM

[Silk]

well the connection is pretty simple.... Cold = death... warmth = life.....