[Soulessdreamer]

Timdgreat, on 26 February 2010 - 01:18 AM, said:

Has anyone considered that maybe the Jaghuts war was to bring about a sense of order in the realm of death? Maybe the injustice was that when a being died their soul was just wasted and just existed in the realm of death. However i still can not see any enemy that the Jaghut could have fought over this. The only army or enemy i can think that they might have fought would have been previously dead beings. Thus the quote about when they died they changed sides. If a jaghut died in the war they ended up on the other side fighting against their living brethren.

This question has been a major thorn in my mind ever since I read it. wish I had more of an idea about it. I hope SE graces us with an answer

This assumes that the Jaghut powerful as they were had no way to retain self will or bind themselves with magic or a vow (and we have seen the power in those) to remain faithful beyond death.

TTFN

[Soloce]

I guess my further question would be -- why was Dassem trying to kill Hood? Was it for the same reason as Rake did? And what was that whole conversation with Cotillion? Did I just miss something obvious? If not, maybe that would help to answer the general war question.

[Jorram]

You missed like the entire Dassem plotline
He's trying to kill Hood for vengeance - because Hood betrayed him and made use of his daughter.

[Soloce]

Jorram, on 06 July 2010 - 03:38 PM, said:

You missed like the entire Dassem plotline
He's trying to kill Hood for vengeance - because Hood betrayed him and made use of his daughter.

I think I missed the whole "daughter" part. I thought it was vengeance, but couldn't figure out why. Is that in TtH or prior?

[Bauchelain the Evil]

In MoI K'rul and Lady Envy discuus about various things. K'rul also accuses Lady Envy of absenting during the last Chaining of the CG. Due to her absence Hood decided to use Dassem's daughter instead. We don't know what exactly happened except that she died. Dassem gave up his position as Knight of Dead and swore vengeance on Hood.

[haroos]

QuinlanSilvanos, on 09 February 2010 - 08:07 PM, said:

Has anybody understood what exactly prompted the Jaghut under the leadership of Hood to fight Death? How did they fight? We are speaking of the age of the Holds, but have no detail if the Hold Of Death had a King before Hood, so i am confused. Did they fight a specific enemy in the war of the hundred million Jaghuts? If yes, who was that enemy? If not, wtf did they do, commit mass suicide to pave the way for Hood's ascendancy and mastery of the Hold Of Death? And why would they want to do it? I remember the dialogue between Kallor and Spinnock, and it left me with the sense that what the Jaghut did then, it was a sacrifice for the benefit of all mortals. What prompted them to make the sacrifice and what kind of sacrifice was it? I know the outcome, the destruction of their communal way of life, but this is the effect only. I cannot imagine why and what they did. I mean, they were practically immortal, or extremely long lived at the least.

how do you know hood led the jaghut forces ? or even who was on the side of death.
maybe death wasn't a god, but a natural phenomena occuring to anything, the forces of natural entropy and such ?
maybe the jaghut war was motivated by an arrogant need ? or maybe by their strugle with the KC ?
as far as i remember until the end of book 8 you can't know the answer to this.

[Hetan]

haroos, on 06 July 2010 - 05:39 PM, said:

QuinlanSilvanos, on 09 February 2010 - 08:07 PM, said:

Has anybody understood what exactly prompted the Jaghut under the leadership of Hood to fight Death? How did they fight? We are speaking of the age of the Holds, but have no detail if the Hold Of Death had a King before Hood, so i am confused. Did they fight a specific enemy in the war of the hundred million Jaghuts? If yes, who was that enemy? If not, wtf did they do, commit mass suicide to pave the way for Hood's ascendancy and mastery of the Hold Of Death? And why would they want to do it? I remember the dialogue between Kallor and Spinnock, and it left me with the sense that what the Jaghut did then, it was a sacrifice for the benefit of all mortals. What prompted them to make the sacrifice and what kind of sacrifice was it? I know the outcome, the destruction of their communal way of life, but this is the effect only. I cannot imagine why and what they did. I mean, they were practically immortal, or extremely long lived at the least.

how do you know hood led the jaghut forces ? or even who was on the side of death.
maybe death wasn't a god, but a natural phenomena occuring to anything, the forces of natural entropy and such ?
maybe the jaghut war was motivated by an arrogant need ? or maybe by their strugle with the KC ?
as far as i remember until the end of book 8 you can't know the answer to this.

That post should have been spoilered. There's more on this in DoD