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Daniel Abraham's The Long Price Quartet. Exceptional series, needs more love.

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 08:51 PM

Just finished the final book in this, the second omnibus collection having finally been released in the UK this months.

Suffice to say, I love this series - Abraham's possibly the most accomplished debutant out of the big wave of recent years, and he gets far less attention than he deserves. He's an accomplished plotter who knows how to wrongfoot without relying on shock value, a creator of characters that feel real, he takes brave choices with his structure, and is maybe the best prose writer in the fantasy business (particularly at the low-key end of the scale).
Describing what it's actually about without spoiling would be difficult, so I won't, but the feel of it is somewhere close to Hobb or Kay, with Martin and Feist's Empire trilogy- particularly the setting, being an Eastern-based thing- being touchstones as well. It's a character-focused political fantasy, where the magic (an inventive system concerning the use of abstract concepts as personified spirits - that's vague, but going in-depth would, again, be spoilers) is low-key but absolutely central to the plot. It's not long - the whole quartet is about the length of two Malazans or Martins - but it's got scale to it.

I hear you can't get the US editions of the book off Amazon because of a disagreement between Amazon and the publisher, but it shouldn't be hard to get hold of the UK omnibuses.
So yeah, give it a try all you people of taste, and if you've already read it, what'd you think?


Abraham's next project (after his Black Sun's Daughter urban fantasy series under the pseudonym M.L.N. Hannover which I will give a try) is an 11 book epic fantasy based in a world on the border of medieval times and the Renneisance. Can't wait.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 06:39 AM

I've read the first two - The first was available for free off the Tor website a while ago, I dont know if it's still there though.

The characterisations is reasonably good, especially the Andat who are interesting and pretty unique. That said I struggled slightly to get into both. It's a matter of my taste though, the pacing and tone of the book just dont work for me. He's made very specific choices in terms of the atmosphere he wants to convey and he does it well, it's just not my cup of tea.

I agree though, they are worth checking out and he is a very underrated author.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 07:06 AM

I read the first volume (Shadow and Betrayal) a couple of years ago or so. The Andat are a great idea, but I wasn't a fan in general. Shadow and Betrayal's two stories are too similar, and it felt like I was starting again from the beginning half way through the book.

Also, I really hated the "pose" stuff. It felt lazy and unimaginative whenever a character "gave a pose of indifference" or "a pose of annoyance". Instead of showing us those character traits/responses through words and actions, Abraham was basically just telling us how they felt. Weak.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 10:36 AM

 Yellow, on 02 February 2010 - 07:06 AM, said:

I read the first volume (Shadow and Betrayal) a couple of years ago or so. The Andat are a great idea, but I wasn't a fan in general. Shadow and Betrayal's two stories are too similar, and it felt like I was starting again from the beginning half way through the book.



That's a fair criticism - the first volume almost works as a prologue to the other three and does cover some of the same ground as the second. Not the case in the rest, I don't think.

I liked the pose stuff though, but I was thinking earlier that it'll be interesting how Abraham handles a series without it. I haven't read the urban fantasy stuff yet, so yeah, I'll see.
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Posted 05 February 2010 - 04:14 AM

My take on the series finale, The Price of Spring.

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It is with a heavy heart I wander in here to make this review. Daniel Abraham is a great storyteller and author. The first three books of the Long Price Quartet illustrate this. In fact, I had all but crowned Abraham's series into my own 'all-time' favorites (i.e. LotR, Silmarillion, First Chronicles of Thomas Covenant and Memory, Sorrow & Thorn). I'm not sure you can possibly imagine how crushed I was when The Price of Spring bombed.

In The Price of Spring, we return to several characters we've seen before, notably Otah Machi and Maati Vaupathai. In the final book of this series, Galt and the cities of the Khaiate (now the Third Empire), will suffer the loss of their entire cultures if they can't set aside their differences, make concessions and unite, as two dying peoples. The women of the Third Empire, and the men of Galt, are relegated to a fate of living historical monuments; the last of their kind. Worse yet, unknown to the emperor, there are clandestine plans to, once more, bind an andat. In this day and age, there is no Dai-kvo, no authority to guide and govern the binding, or use of, an andat. Since the emperor turned his back on tradition, and his people, a new poet is likely to indulge vengeance against Galt and let the emperor be damned.



To be sure, my opinion of this work is a minority, dissenting opinion. And so, I run the risk of being marginalized as a result. I suppose I can only hope that a portion of those criticizing other bloggers for never posting a negative review will stand in for my defense. My criticism of this book, as a stink-bomb, has to do with how it ends and the road it takes to get there. Therefore, my elaboration upon those points will, unavoidably, contain spoilers. If you're considering reading the series or have read some of the series and wish to continue DO NOT READ ANY FURTHER AS THE TALE WILL BE SPOILED FOR YOU.



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Posted 21 February 2010 - 08:36 PM

An enjoyable and more importantly unpredictable series which gets better with each book. I'm currently on the the third book in the series.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 12:20 PM

Started this over the weekend. So far, so good, though the repetition of 'adopted a pose of X' is getting slightly annoying. Love the world-building though, and the andat concept is original.

Reminds me quite a bit of Michelle West's 'Sun Sword' series, actually.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:03 AM

 polishgenius, on 01 February 2010 - 08:51 PM, said:

Abraham's next project (after his Black Sun's Daughter urban fantasy series under the pseudonym M.L.N. Hannover which I will give a try) is an 11 book epic fantasy based in a world on the border of medieval times and the Renneisance. Can't wait.

Yes, I am raving. :)


I had no idea it was an 11 book series. First Sanderson and now Abraham - I love it when great, hard working authors start something epic. Can't. Wait.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 09:45 AM

I've since read elsewhere that it's seven, so I dunno now. Still, well looking forward to it...
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 06:59 PM

While that does sound good, I'd be a lot more excited if I hadn't just seen that word "medieval". As far as I'm concerned, the only good medieval fantasy I've read is GRRM - it's not easy to get right. Still, fingers crossed.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:15 PM

No love for Big Daddy Tolkien, or the likes of Magician by Feist?

Anyway, I'd imagine the Renneisance bit will make things a bit different to your usual cod-medieval setup - not to mention, Abraham is in my opinion at least as accomplished a writer as Martin, and this was his debut. Although for a series of that length (I'm presuming here, but he describes it as epic fantasy so I imagine the books will be a more normal doorstopper fantasy length than Long Price), it'll be interesting to see how he handles the more complex worldbuilding required.

Same goes for Sanderson's upcoming... 10-parter, was it?
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