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Meanas, on 12 February 2010 - 01:25 AM, said:

Hrm, hrm...

1 Vote for Telas ( Spite )
2 Votes for Liosan ( Korvalain, Omtose )
1 Vote for Meanas ( Tulas Shorn )
4 Votes for Spite ( Liosan, Meanas, Sukul Ankhadu, Ruse )

Who could Sukul's other recruit be? Ruse, with the earlier signal/case? Huge potential issue with that, since it got Sukul in trouble, so I doubt it.

Omtose seems possible, but that was Day 1... why would a recruiter start with a sub? Talk about unfair if that were the case...

It's not Liosan, Sukul was ready to bury that guy. No way it's Spite for the same reason.

Sukul seems willing to pick vocal players for a lynch. Tulas is a possibility... but would that mean Sukul started off as a non-tactical recruiter since Tulas didn't get recruited by me?

Korv is a possibility, too, simply because he was on the Liosan case, as well.

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I'm not really sure why he's convinced of the existence of this imaginary 3rd member of Yuan Shao... weird.

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Spite, on 12 February 2010 - 03:30 AM, said:

Well, I may be done. We'll see whether my latest post digs me a deeper hole or gets me another day or two. Regardless, I may try to turn that into a train on Ruse so I had better change my NA.

Recruit Sukul Ankhadu (offensive)

At this point I think the chances of me successfully recruiting anyone are very low, it may be better for my chances at eventual victory that someone recruits me - but I've been getting too much heat now for that to be likely. Not that I have any intent on trying to be recruited, just that I am in a bad spot right now.

Spite, on 12 February 2010 - 03:44 AM, said:

As a side note, I am fairly certain I had the layout of the game correct, and continually arguing based on what I believe are false pretences is a bit more difficult than otherwise. Basically, I cannot imagine I am the only one who thinks as I do about the set-up, so arguing from a basis of actual factions existing from the start relies on everyone else pretending that they do not know there were no factions at the start. I am tempted at times to yell at everyone talking about subs etc. saying there weren't any and we need to look at posts only from day two on, but that would be insta-death. Nicely laid out game, even if I am wrong.

That's reassuring - I win if you're wrong or if you're right! Action noted, of course.

[Path-Shaper]

Next lynch scene:

Fighting losing battles with Cao Cao to the north and Han Xuan to the south, Yuan Shu feared he would soon see his province aflame. Seeing his lord's despair, _____ proposed that they invite the great warrior Lu Bu to assist in defending the province. Many of the advisors and court officials argued sternly against inviting a traitorous fiend like Lu Bu into their province, but Yuan Shu was desperate and sent ______ as envoy to Lu Bu, who was currently stationed in Xiapi, asking for assistance. The envoy departed and returned a week later with Lu Bu's acceptance. On the appointed day, Yuan Shu personally lead a force east to meet Lu Bu's own army. As Yuan Shu's force passed through Elm Bridge Gate, Shu was told that his aide Lü Fan had strung himself upside down above the city portals, a written protest in one hand, a sword in the other. Lü Fan was threatening to cut the rope and dash himself to death if his warnings were not heeded. Yuan Shu called for the protest note, which said in essence:

Your aide Lü Fan weeps blood, appealing in all sincerity. "Effective medicine is bitter to the mouth but remedies disease. Loyal words offend the ear but benefit one's conduct." In ancient times King Huai of Chu ignored the advice of Qu Yuan and covenanted at Wuguan, falling prey to Qin. Now Your Lordship lightly leaves his home district to welcome Lu Bu at Fucheng. Will you return the way you came? If only you would put _______ publicly to death and break off with Lu Bu, the entire population of Zhong as well as your own house would benefit.

Angered by what he had read, Yuan Shu said, "I go to meet a humane and benevolent man, a kindred spirit of noble intent. How often do you mean to affront us this way?" Lü Fan uttered a single cry, severed the rope, and crashed to his death. Yuan Shu set off for Fucheng with thirty thousand soldiers. Behind him rolled a thousand carts loaded with grain, money, and silk for tribute.

Liosan (Silencer) is dead. He was Lü Fan of Yuan Shu's forces.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 February 2010 - 05:43 PM

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Omtose, on 12 February 2010 - 02:10 PM, said:

so, if by some crazy chance Sukul is lynched whilst i'm at work and incommunicado, can my kill go to Tennes instead?

Nope.

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Telas, on 12 February 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:

if i say that i want to make the recruit tactical rather than offensive, will this move me back down on the queue btw? If it would then leave it as is, But if i can change that to being a Tactical recruit without losing my place then change it please.

Personality change won't reset your spot int he list - it is changed.

[Path-Shaper]

Night resolved, but I can't manage the MM from here (school) so if anyone comes on here the timer will be screwed up.

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Meanas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:09 PM, said:

HALLEJH-FUCKING-LUJAH! Finally!

Send Tennes my warmest regards: "Sorry, buddy, nothing personal. Recruitment is a bitch."

Meanas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:11 PM, said:

Hahahah!

I hate you stupid fucking offensive players. DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No seriously, that was funny. You're quite the Indian Giver, D'rek.

I'm curious to know how I lost an army size when it doesn't appear that any other offensive players are at level 2... unless it was an offensive leader who leveled up previously without a night kill?

Can't blame them for trying to hit/recruit me, however. I basically said I was level 1.

[Path-Shaper]

Turns out I *MAY* have screwed up an action or two... will have to check them over but right now gotta run to class, dammit!

Edit: So yeah I failed to notate Korbas' action, probably from multiple-PS-editing conflicts, but whatever it failed anyways.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 February 2010 - 12:38 AM

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Telas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:20 PM, said:

hmmm so i now have a guard . interesting. at least it worked this time

Ruse, on 12 February 2010 - 07:22 PM, said:

rofl!!

I bet Spite is hating me right about now rofl rofl.

[Illuyankas]

Doh. I screwed myself over hard by not thinking about what a 0-length night would mean and missed out on the first action. Still, I've kept my win/lose miserably/win/lose miserably Mafia streak going, and did alright on my first merc game, so I'm not too annoyed.

Doublechecked, 'would have succeeded'? MOTHERFUCKER.

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Ruse, on 12 February 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

I gotta keep him alive. he is makin me a big army

If only you were offensive this would be awesome - lone warrior with no leader ravages all of China...

Galayn Lord, on 12 February 2010 - 07:27 PM, said:

A snow balls chance in hell.........Recruit Telas, aggressive


Was there a reason my vote on Meanas yesterday wasn't accepted?

Action noted. Vote? What? Huh?

Meanas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:29 PM, said:

So Yuan Shu is getting some power, it seems, and my leader hasn't managed to recruit a 3rd person... interesting.

Korbas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:24 PM, said:

Does no message=fail?

Korbas, on 12 February 2010 - 07:29 PM, said:

The stuff in the scene worries me-is my army size still 3?

No message = somehow failed. Since I didn't say anything your army size is still 3.

Ruse, on 12 February 2010 - 07:33 PM, said:

Guard Spite!!!!! I want a promotion!!!!

Noted

Sukul Ankhadu, on 12 February 2010 - 07:51 PM, said:

Next Recruitment attempt: Ruse

I'm working on the premise that leaders are less likely to stick their heads out with lots of chatter. Sure, I've been chatting alot, but that's me. I am so hoping this works, because I do need another break. Here's hoping I'm the first to get a promotion of the leaders.

Noted

Telas, on 12 February 2010 - 08:19 PM, said:

oh recruit Omtose tactical

Noted

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 12 February 2010 - 09:21 PM

[Liosan]

Bastards lynched me while asleep. Korbas deserves to get lynched today, for trying to defend a recruit of all things! Who does that? Fucking amateurs.

Just btw, I think you've finally made a game too complex for you to keep up with, D'rek - I'm listed as Lu Fan (def-1), when I was clearly a tactical officer, as shown by my role PM and your NA notes. XD

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Korvalain, on 12 February 2010 - 10:02 PM, said:

hmph, well to start from scratch then.. put Ruse as a provisional.. another defensive one wont hurt I think.

The only player Morgoth can successfully target is Tulas Shorn, who was stolen away from him last night...he's in trouble now, I think.

Ruse, on 12 February 2010 - 10:53 PM, said:

/sigh if I at least had 1 teammate I didn't know.. that would be something! Damn you Alt!! Damn you!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really will have to get lucky if I am gonna win this, If there is even one team of 3 people right now I am dead. If there are 1-2 teams of 2.. I stand a chance, hopefully bringing it to maybe a 3 person 1 faction each stalemate. I don't know. I am an army backed into a corner that sees defeat on the Horizon... No Surrender!!!!

Ruse, on 12 February 2010 - 10:54 PM, said:

Just trying to get people to vote for eachother, be on everyone's train, idk, I am throwing all sorts of shit on the wall... some of it has to stick, right????

The Dude will fight to the death!

Meanas, on 13 February 2010 - 12:06 AM, said:

I've been considering this for a while and now I'd like to officially state that I believe every single person started out as a warlord with recruitment power. Recruiting someone is what made them a non-warlord.

Kind of tempting to reveal on-thread that I was recruited away from a tactical warlord and killed Tennes last night. However, everyone might lynch me knowing that I can kill (they may not believe that I lost my army last night), or that I'm already in a faction of 2.

Tricky tricky.

PB sees the light.

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Liosan, on 12 February 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:

Bastards lynched me while asleep. Korbas deserves to get lynched today, for trying to defend a recruit of all things! Who does that? Fucking amateurs.

Just btw, I think you've finally made a game too complex for you to keep up with, D'rek - I'm listed as Lu Fan (def-1), when I was clearly a tactical officer, as shown by my role PM and your NA notes. XD

Lol, good point, I'll change that. But writing in the def/off/tact stuff is just for you guys reading this' sake. I know Lu Fan is a scholar that served Yuan Shu so I don't need to check his personality

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ahhhh, double Path-Shapers!

[Path-Shaper]

Hehe, sorry about the doppelganging there D'rek. Quick question - I note that you reduced Korvalain's army size for his unsuccessful attack on Meanas yesterday. Does that mean we should be reducing army size for all unsuccessful actions?

Also, here are a few PMs:

Tulas Shorn, on 13 February 2010 - 02:42 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 12 February 2010 - 07:13 PM, said:

Your commanding officer, Wei Xu, has defected to Zhang Ji(Telas)'s forces along with your entire army!

You maintain the same officer, personality and abilities as before.

Lol! Did I call that one or what?

(Tulas had been getting confused about the similarity of his name to Telas'...)

Spite, on 13 February 2010 - 01:49 AM, said:

Recruit Korbas: Offensive

Noted.

Omtose, on 13 February 2010 - 02:35 AM, said:

hehe

so, i'm with Sukul now? interesting

new order: kill Ruse.

I take it my kill on Sukul failed. or, was it actually me who killed Cao Cao?

If your action succeeds, you will be informed of an increase in army size.

And you action is noted.

Meanas, on 13 February 2010 - 05:58 AM, said:

Doubt anything will happen over the weekend, but since I'm going to be gone, may as well make some orders.

Not sure who Sukul dragged in, but Ruse or Omtose seem to be good candidates so I'm going to avoid them. Spite, Korbas, and Tulas are clearly on 'other' team(s).

Tulas isn't offensive as evidenced by night 1 (unless I was guarded). So while he may have leveled up since then, here's hoping!

Kill Tulas Shorn, unless lynched, then Kill Korbas

You can't submit provisionals based on who gets lynched, remember? I've noted your Tulas Shorn action though.


Sir Thursday

Meanas, on 13 February 2010 - 03:26 PM, said:

Yeah, good point. I don't think Tulas is in trouble today, so I'm comfortable leaving that the way it is.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 February 2010 - 06:58 PM

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Path-Shaper, on 13 February 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

Hehe, sorry about the doppelganging there D'rek. Quick question - I note that you reduced Korvalain's army size for his unsuccessful attack on Meanas yesterday. Does that mean we should be reducing army size for all unsuccessful actions?

Hmm, well I did so because originally the plan was that TIE actions reduced both involved party's actions by 1, but that got scrapped and it became only the target of the action that got reduced so I was definitely in error on that. Correction sent to Morgy. (Knew I shouldn't have rushed to do get that resolution done before class!)

So no, it should be just that the victim of any TIE actions gets a -1 in size, but not the agressor.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 13 February 2010 - 06:58 PM

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Spite, on 13 February 2010 - 08:52 PM, said:

Well, as Lu Fan (liosan) was not listed as a possible faction in the OP, I suppose I was wrong in my guess at the set-up. So likely ten or so factions to start. Liu Bei, Cao Cao, Sun Ce and Yaun Shu starting with subs, the rest solo.

Seems to me the hint about there being info in the mid-day scenes is pointing out factions that have been eliminated. So, if Sun Ce had a sub they were recruited night one. Meaning four recruits night one and two night two. Sun Ce's sub (if he had one), Yang Feng, Liu Biao and Gongsun Du night one and Tao Qian and Han Sui night two. Okaros must have had one of the successful recruits night one, as the forces of Han Xaun were not eliminated with his lynch.

Considered posting this on thread, but it doesn't really benefit me to do so at this point.

I'm glad *somebody* noticed the Han Xuan's forces not being wiped out thing. I was feeling like my scenes weren't being read at all

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Meanas, on 15 February 2010 - 09:43 PM, said:

Bwa ha ha ha! Giant mostly-true-semi-faked quote post, AWAY.

The master should pick up on it pretty keenly, I think. Korv's gotten away most of the game with hiding in the background, so hopefully I'll be able to steer a lynch toward him today. After that, I could very well get recruited again since I'm totally admitting being level 1.

I could just get lynched, however, for being a potential faction traitor. You never know how these things go.

At least I can say I did it my way.

Yup. Good effort at forging the defensive-recruited message, though of course you're way off...

Meanas, on 15 February 2010 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yeah, I had considered leaving it as Offensive. That would almost be completely testable, other than my character name. However, if a player wants to openly dispute the language of the text in the subordinate message, they would reveal themselves as a defensive sub and a prime target for the boss to steal next (or to be killed off by an offensive player), meaning they are not likely to do so.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if most recruits are Offensive.

I think I may have picked a fight with the wrong person because Korv is certainly not going to get blown up as easily as some other people would have, but hey, gotta bet big to win big. WCS is I get lynched, which was already a good possibility, and keep the master in the clear.

Right now it looks like we've got 3 members in the faction. I'm guessing the boss missed his first action and I was the first success, but we got another one last night. That means the boss is rank 3 and almost unstoppable, so it's OK for me to take a bullet today if that's necessary.

Good thing is that any other recruits are going to immediately recognize what I'm doing so I may very well have 2-3 votes on my side today to help sway things.

Heh, but if there are other recruits they might believe you and vote against you, wouldn't that be funny!

Meanas, on 15 February 2010 - 11:57 PM, said:

Well that's certainly a good possibility if I'm pretty much a guaranteed lynch. For example, I fully expect the boss to be vote #5 or #6 if I am going down. I'm at 3 votes now, so I'm hoping we'll get some civil discourse rather than "lynch him now, test it later" nonsense.

I see the boss hitting rank 4 tomorrow barring some huge issue, and he should control 3 total votes out of 9. That's almost a win.

Korbas, on 15 February 2010 - 10:31 PM, said:

I am considering a provisional on meanas.

The advantages being:

Tests if he is telling the truth.
If he is, he should be recruitable.
He doesn't seem to have any qualms about revealing who his current leader is.

The disadvantage being that if someone takes him from me, i'm buggered.

For now, I will go with a provisional on GL.

Noted.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 February 2010 - 12:02 AM

[Sir Thursday]

Very nice from PB .

This is the sort of thing the game needs right now. People need to start being freer with their information. I get the feeling that people are suspicious of Meanas just because he is sharing, which is NOT GOOD at all. People should be looking at his information a bit more critically, I think. Unfortunately, he's going to get lynched for it, and that will scare others off from doing the same .


Sir Thursday