[Eloth]

In that case surely it would make sense not to say who is on our left and right?

After all-it's not an advantage if the people can discuss of thread if UB knows who they're discussing with and can just silence them too.

He'd probably be able to figure it out anyhow, by who is translating who most etc, but it could help a bit, and I can't really see any advantage of stating it on thread.

[Telas]

Oww. My brain hurts. I figured out most of what Tennes has said. But my translator thing misses words or something. But I get most of it. He is supicious of Shadow, as well as suprised that a silenced Mockra has more posts that most of the ones that aren't silenced (but Im not sure if he's saying that makes Mockra suspicious or the low posters.)

Mockras posts I still have trouble with. I get the code, but I keep forgetting which set of words I am on, and the jumble effect makes it hard.

Sercs is easy enough. every third word he switches with the on three words back.

Atrahals are ok.

I really have trouble with Okaros' as well, but I think I get the general idea. Now enough whining. I have a couple of suspicions. (And yes, Eloth is involved in this one as well.)


This post is ok by itself. Brings D'riss to L-2

Osseric, on 06 January 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

its too close to deadline for any other viable alternatives. Normally I dislike lynches for the sake of lynches, but we've got nothing to go on.

unvote
vote d'riss

Alkend posts, and its a reasonable on then Eloth comes back from his hole and once again slaps at Kalse, then his next post is this

Eloth, on 06 January 2010 - 11:13 PM, said:

remove vote
vote d'riss

To get a lynch.

And once again Eloth scampers off, nowhere to be. Just keeps comin on, deflecting and lynching,[sarcasm] but I am probably just tunnel visioned and strawmanning [/sarcasm}

After this Osseric comes up with a theory that says lynch often, which wouldn't help anyone but UB. And then says the below

Osseric, on 07 January 2010 - 10:13 AM, said:

To fuck with this. Im so lost its nou even funny. This game is just too bizarre, even for me.
Lets just start lynching
vote shadow

So my top suspect remains Eloth, but Osseric is a close second.

[Telas]

Eloth, on 07 January 2010 - 03:27 PM, said:

In that case surely it would make sense not to say who is on our left and right?

After all-it's not an advantage if the people can discuss of thread if UB knows who they're discussing with and can just silence them too.

He'd probably be able to figure it out anyhow, by who is translating who most etc, but it could help a bit, and I can't really see any advantage of stating it on thread.

Why would this matter? UB has to silence everyone. Why would it matter if we say who's on the left or right and they get silenced, as long as they might be possibly able to talk normally in pm?

Vote Eloth

Scummy bastard.

[Kalse]

The comment I find bizarre from Osseric is

"lets just start lynching"


... as opposed to what?

[Telas]

By the way Kalse, the feeling is more than mutual on my part. I gotta go, work calls, I'll tr to get back on in a while.

[Eloth]

Telas, on 07 January 2010 - 03:37 PM, said:

Eloth, on 07 January 2010 - 03:27 PM, said:

In that case surely it would make sense not to say who is on our left and right?

After all-it's not an advantage if the people can discuss of thread if UB knows who they're discussing with and can just silence them too.

He'd probably be able to figure it out anyhow, by who is translating who most etc, but it could help a bit, and I can't really see any advantage of stating it on thread.

Why would this matter? UB has to silence everyone. Why would it matter if we say who's on the left or right and they get silenced, as long as they might be possibly able to talk normally in pm?

Vote Eloth

Scummy bastard.

So if someone is attacking someone else vehemently and then suddenly they and the people they can talk to are silenced methodically it wouldn't affect peoples suspicions?

Also, I don't want to rely too heavily on the vent system. For example, if three people are silenced, the word can still get out. The midle can tell the left, who tells the left, who tells the left of him, etc, until you get to someone who can say it on thread.

However, UB is in here with us, presumably using the vents, so I don't like the idea of passing it around chinese whispers style, since he can just add in a misinterpretation at some stage easily enough...

Can you tell me what advantage there is in telling the whole thread who we can speak too? I can't see one, and if there's not one, then why is it scummy to play it safe, and restrict UB from information.

In fact, I find it somewhat scummy you're so strongly for everyone revealing information when I can't see how it advantages us and it could help UB. Why do you thinik it's a good idea for us to reveal that information?

[Osseric]

As opposed to sitting not knowing what the fuck half the players are saying.
I missed where it said someone gets silenced after every lynch, my theory was clearly wrong, this talking through the vents is interesting, but again, how well do I trust the people? (Cant pm from my phone, posting is a big enough pain, so i'l do it when I get home)

[Eloth]

Osseric, on 07 January 2010 - 04:02 PM, said:

As opposed to sitting not knowing what the fuck half the players are saying.

I never said that the people on the left and right shouldn't translate-but stating they are on the left and right seems un-necessary, since it's not as if UB is going to be able to know right away-or for anyone who isn't silenced.

Edit: Fail on my part for not knowing who you were talking to. Thought you were commenting that people stating who they could talk on thread to was better than not knowing what people are saying...

This post has been edited by Eloth: 07 January 2010 - 04:08 PM

[Alkend]

Why does Bubba have to be busy on the day we get the vents thing? I wanna vent through my vents!

[Alkend]

So I finished my catching up last night and one person who's attracted my notice is Galain. the entire game he has posted almost entirely in short replies, almost all of which are mechanics or about silenced messages or other things that aren't going to make any splashes. The only time he wrote more than a short block was when someone else splashed on him and he came out to defer attention away from himself:

Galain, on 06 January 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Omtose what exactly is your definition of middling because the people youve named there are the top poster (Kalse), one of the middle ones (Serc) and one of the lowest (me) so i dont see how were all middling players unless your using a different definition to me.

I will say im not sure on D'riss now after reading his stuff he does seem to be coming off as just confused now rather than scum but the two are quite easily confused so if theres no other option near day end i will go for him as it is possible that he is UB.

Of the silenced players i still believe Atrahal is probably a more likely UB than Mockra as some of the stuff he said yesterday didnt ring right with me (hence my vote on him).

Other than that ive really got no idea but i am slightly worried about all the people i keep forgetting about because it really doesnt seem like weve still got what 16 players on.

He just seems to me to be trying his darndest not to garner any attention by avoiding as much notice as possible by hardly mentioning people at all.

Vote Galain

[Path-Shaper]

there is 8 hours 23 mins before UB stikes again.

there 14 people left, you need 8 for a lynch
1 vote okaros- serc
3 votes shadow-silanah,osseric.
1 vote omtose-kalse
2 vote osseric-Tennes,Okaros
1 vote Eloth-Telas
1 vote Galain-Alkend
having not voted yet mockra, eloth, galain, atrahal, omtose, shadow.


I should be able to get on in a while to do another update and what not.

Your God
Tulas Shorn

[Silanah]

Gah, I'm not sure I like the idea of these vents. How exactly is it supposed to help us? We can already tell what all the silenced people are saying.

Hmph, guess I'll go PM bubba and see what happens.

The case on Osseric is interesting because it definitely comes across as ringing true... but then I don't blame him for wanting to lynch people. That's the only way we will get UB, and the longer we take to lynch, the more likely we are to get silenced.

I'm not about to say that a couple of speed lynches in a row should be our aim, but if UB was offline between them he might not get his provisionals in place... so I wouldn't be crying a river over it.

[Omtose]

I'm back, I have read up, i'll send a message left and right to see if I get any response.

Honestly I am having a hard time with this game. It seems, since there are no NK's.. no Symps, we have nothing to go on and its a crap shoot. I am having trouble drawing any connections at all. That combined with unexpected work schedule has really made this a shitty game for me. On top of that, i am still not silenced. But, with what I have brought to the table, I am not surprised by that.

As for 2 people being silenced. I think we were expecting that werent we? Very Possible a good day for UB to slip into the ranks of the Silenced. I don't think Osseric is UB. he seems frustrated and ready to lynch, i feel the same way. I found Kalse's vote on me interesting. He picked me because I voted him, and because I am middle of the roading... the same case he made against Someone else and was made on him. In fact, you could make that case against pretty much 70% of the players remaining. So I found it interesting he chose the person that voted him vote and who is up to maybe 2-3 posts per day. easy target?

I think Alkend made a good point about Galain.. I made one post putting him in my top 3 suspects, and it prompted him to make on of his biggest posts in the game. hmmmm. I didn't even vote for him. jumpy Much?

I am around all day if anyone wants to chat.

I can pretty much read everyone's posts except for Tennes cause I am too lazy to use translator, and Osseric's can be confusing, but I get the gist.

Going back to reread, and to send messages to my cell mates. back in a few. I will vote then.

EDIT: to clarify

This post has been edited by Omtose: 07 January 2010 - 05:59 PM

[Silanah]

Path-Shaper, on 07 January 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Your God
Tulas Shorn

Psst! Zombie Tulas! Who is UB?

[Omtose]

Silanah, on 07 January 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:

Gah, I'm not sure I like the idea of these vents. How exactly is it supposed to help us? We can already tell what all the silenced people are saying.

Hmph, guess I'll go PM bubba and see what happens.

The case on Osseric is interesting because it definitely comes across as ringing true... but then I don't blame him for wanting to lynch people. That's the only way we will get UB, and the longer we take to lynch, the more likely we are to get silenced.

I'm not about to say that a couple of speed lynches in a row should be our aim, but if UB was offline between them he might not get his provisionals in place... so I wouldn't be crying a river over it.

I think the only way our timing is affected by the voting mechanic, is the situation that happened yesterday.

We miss the hammer vote: UB Silences
Someone Hammers 20 minutes into day: UB silences again

As long as we make deadline it's not an issue.

[Silanah]

But what if we take an extra 16 hours to lynch? I'm too lazy to work out what would happen.

The Galain case is interesting. Let's see if he comes back to defelct again.

remove vote

vote Galain

[Silanah]

By the way, I was looking for a "gibberish to english translator" a couple of days ago when I couldn't tell what Mockra was going on about, and I came across this:

http://lefarkins.blo...translator.html

I have no idea what it is, but it's some kind of music video with fake-English.

It's fucken weird and you should check it out. OLL RIGHT!

[Omtose]

Path-Shaper, on 07 January 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

there is 8 hours 23 mins before UB stikes again.

there 14 people left, you need 8 for a lynch
1 vote okaros- serc (Silenced)
3 votes shadow-silanah,osseric (Not Silenced, Not Silenced).
1 vote omtose-kalse(Not Silenced)
2 vote osseric-Tennes,Okaros (Silenced,Silenced)
1 vote Eloth-Telas(Not Silenced)
1 vote Galain-Alkend(Not Silenced)
having not voted yet mockra (Silenced), eloth (Not Silenced), galain (Not Silenced), atrahal (Silenced), omtose (Not Silenced), shadow (Not Silenced).


I should be able to get on in a while to do another update and what not.

Your God
Tulas Shorn

So we have 9 People Not silenced, and 5 People Silenced.

Of the silenced people I feel that the 2 people that were silenced today/last night are the most probable UB's.. but my gut still says he is unsilenced. I would probably say Serc, Galain and Kalse are now up there for me. Like I said, i don't have much to go on, but recent posts by Galain and Kalse have started pinging my scumdar. I throw Serc on there because 2 times altrahal has placed a vote on Serc and iirc Serc hasn't even commented on these votes. Not even just an acknowledgement. I find that odd, because when i receive votes and am inno, i at least acknowledge them. maybe thats just me.

[Galain]

Alkend, on 07 January 2010 - 04:58 PM, said:

So I finished my catching up last night and one person who's attracted my notice is Galain. the entire game he has posted almost entirely in short replies, almost all of which are mechanics or about silenced messages or other things that aren't going to make any splashes. The only time he wrote more than a short block was when someone else splashed on him and he came out to defer attention away from himself:

Galain, on 06 January 2010 - 05:22 PM, said:

Omtose what exactly is your definition of middling because the people youve named there are the top poster (Kalse), one of the middle ones (Serc) and one of the lowest (me) so i dont see how were all middling players unless your using a different definition to me.

I will say im not sure on D'riss now after reading his stuff he does seem to be coming off as just confused now rather than scum but the two are quite easily confused so if theres no other option near day end i will go for him as it is possible that he is UB.

Of the silenced players i still believe Atrahal is probably a more likely UB than Mockra as some of the stuff he said yesterday didnt ring right with me (hence my vote on him).

Other than that ive really got no idea but i am slightly worried about all the people i keep forgetting about because it really doesnt seem like weve still got what 16 players on.

He just seems to me to be trying his darndest not to garner any attention by avoiding as much notice as possible by hardly mentioning people at all.

Vote Galain

ok how exactly is this me just coming onto defer attention away from myself? if anything this would put more attention on me as all i really said was that Omtoses use of the word middling was slightly flawed, hardly a massive defense by me is it?

The reason ive not been posting a huge amount is that i dont really have much clue whats going on and most of my suspicions so far are pretty much pure gut, and i havent been seeing a huge amount that im too sure about in the other cases.

Right now my gut is pointing to Eloth as he was too quick to try and stop people from talking to eachother through the vents and possibly Osseric (think it was him) for trying to get people to start speedlynching. Il agree with him that we need to start lynching people but when he said this we werent sure but it was still likely that speedlynching would just speed up the silencing so it could have been a way to get a quick burst of silenced people before people realised.

[Galain]

oh yeah and because i might my access is slightly sporadic atm

Vote Eloth