[Treefork]

Ok, first post, hope I don't blow it.

Ok I'm about 3/4 through Dust of Dreams. There is a small part where Corabb is on patrol with the heavies. I always liked Corabb in part because he was kind of different from the rest of the marines due to his background and his speech was different. Then I read this scene where they are patrolling and suddenly he sounds like... well I guess kind of like the rest of the marines but it just bugged me. Remembering when he first joined up it seemed like his speech was a little more refined and now he's just a grunting marine. I'll have to find the passage later I'm leaving for work now.

[dktorode]

Peer pressure is a bitch....

After spending allot of time together...people start talking the same.

[Sinisdar Toste]

dktorode, on 24 December 2009 - 08:58 AM, said:

Peer pressure is a bitch....

After spending allot of time together...people start talking the same.

true enough, but the important part of that scene is when corabb calls the heavies he's with on them faking being such retards. he says, "cut it out. look i'm fids heavy right? so cut it out right now." (i paraphrase). but it seems like the heavies play up the stereotype and corabb's just trying to let them know he's on to them.

[Illuyankas]

I personally like how Tarr's impression of Corabb changes from TBH to DOD. I do like Corabb, the crazy drugmunching lucky dude.

[Ulrik]

Corabb totally rocks in RG during battle with Edur
And of course, HoC and BH and his titles for Leoman )

[amphibian]

Treefork, on 24 December 2009 - 08:52 AM, said:

it seemed like his speech was a little more refined

He was whacked to the gills on drugs and heat stroke when he was spouting those incredibly weird (and funny) titles for Leoman.

I like Corabb's character development from HoC to DoD. It seems like he's much more comfortable with himself now, understands his role and is not so hyper-alert of any loss of status.

I hope the luck doesn't turn on him yet - or ever really.

[Treefork]

When I say his speech seemed more refined I didn't mean on the drugs, though that was pretty funny. I like his development too I think it was just the speech that bothered me. The "blah blah blah, right?" Maybe it was just the two consecutive sentences with ",right?" in them. Just didn't fit with the way he spoke before. I know being around all the other marines can affect a persons speech but I guess I always imagined Corabb's being different because he was a "foreigner". I don't know.

I think when I imagine Corabb I have this image of Antonio Banderas character from 13th Warrior. Kind of a smaller Arab type man among the "barbarian" types.

[Sinisdar Toste]

but carabbs big, big enough to be called the fist by cuttle and tarr.

also keep in mind it might be longer than you think since corabbs been around the malazan influence, speaking malazan for at least two years now

[maro]

His character seems to have become more comedy value over the books which is strange,

[Sinisdar Toste]

ehhhh, i'm pretty sure corabb was comedy value right from the start. i mean, remember the sharper smoking in his lap? that was his third scene.

[Abyss]

@Treefork - Welcome to the forum. Interesting thread here.

I liked Corabb because SE plays him straight and for laughs. Sure, the Oponn thing leads to some rediculous escapes, but it also keeps him from dying of cancer. And the titles for Leoman were hysterical, but Corabb's sense of betrayal at Leoman's actions was fairly deep.

I like how his perspective on the malazans has changed and how Tarr and others' perspectives on him changed too. I thought the scene with the heavies was another aspect of this.

There's a priceless bit in Rg where Fod wants someone to take out a Letherii officer and no one in the squad is a decent shot with a crossbow - they Cuttle says 'hey, let Corabb do it' - cut to a quarrel plowing thru the officers head and the two other officers standing next to him. The luck is not just for laughs - it can be deadly.

But the question of his luck turning is an interesting one. much was made in GotM about the coin and Chance eventually turning the bearer's luck against them. Corabb was described back in Tb as 'beloved of the lady', but i wonder if that love can run out. More to the point, i wonder if that luck can run out, or turn against him, at a key moment in TCG. Oponn's motives aren't usually supportive of anyone else's good, and i doubt they leant their aspect to a soldier who is going to be in the midst of the convergence that could save or destroy the world out of sheer generousity.

Tho its their world too. maybe.

- Abyss, lucked out.

[maro]

I can't remember where it states he's "Blessed" by Oponn.

Surely Leoman returns in TCG and Corabb has his revenge?

[HoosierDaddy]

Perhaps Corabb is a Mortal Sword of Oponn? All the other gods can have people like that, why not Oponn?

[Sinisdar Toste]

the queen of dreams tells leoman that he's "beloved of the lady" after she pulls their shit off the coals (literally) and that she was hoping he would come along and not dunsparrow, who was sanctified to hood.

[Bauchelain the Evil]

Yeah and then Bottle mentions that "Corabb's luck doesn't mix to others"

And I'm now having this strange feeling that Corabb's luck will have made him survive the KCNR but it will end at some point and he will die some meaningless Erikson-like death.

Yes, I'm a optimist.

[Abyss]

I don't think Corabb is a Mortal Sword in any sense that we've seen. He IS aspected to Oponn, and specifically the Lady (good luck), but i don't think he's their agent in the direct link sense that the MS/D/SA roles (and in the MS case, the similar Soldier/Knight/Champion positions in Houses) seem to carry.

We know there are more ways to be aspected by a god. Banaschar has D'rek riding in his belly, but he's not Destriant. WJ and the BBs are aspected to Death but not in a direct servant sort of way that Baudin or the Second or possibly Hedge are.

But there may be an 'agent' element to it. Oponn may have aspected Corabb to ensure he's there when the big finish goes down. That said, We saw in GotM via Paran and Chance that once Oponn links to someone, they don't necessarily retain any control over that link and it can even work against them.

But you can sort of see how it could play out in TCG... all hell is breaking loose, Jade chunks are dropping, Heboric's sending massive otataral mojo into the sky, KC and FA battling, the Host wiped out, the Errant and Paran throwing entire Decks at each other, Tavore's captured, Kindly's in command, CG cultists hurling themselves at the remains of the 14th and allies, Silchas and Rud holding off Kila and Knuckles, Tool's T'lan I'mass facing off against the Unbound, Cotillion's assassin squad led by Kalam has failed, Draconus is killing pretty much everyone... Fid's squad gets sent in in one last ditch attempt to grab Tavore and stick a cusser under the CG, they get ambushed, it all comes down to Corabb and one last shot with Fid's lobber... and then his luck turns.


- Abyss, just got the shivers...