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Wow. just Wow. Erickson's willingness to let us figure it out

#1 User is offline   Bear 

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:19 PM

So i'm rereading the series again. I'm continually amazed how Erikson puts in prose that the first time we have to suspend our desire to understand what it really means.

I just reread the passage where Feather Witch (or is it Feather Bitch? :D) is casting the tiles for the second time. In her monologue she says

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Sometimes I think he wrote it with the expectation that we would have to read it 2 or 3 times before we really figure out the richness and detail and how it all really does fit together.

so wow. just wow.

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:28 PM

Erikson. ERIKSON!
"HAIL THE MARINES!"
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Posted 12 December 2009 - 07:51 PM

View Postwolf_2099, on 12 December 2009 - 07:28 PM, said:

Erikson. ERIKSON!

fixed. :D
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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:05 PM

Yeah I noticed "Vengeance" in another book, I think TB. Pretty cool after the fact.
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Posted 12 December 2009 - 08:29 PM

 

View PostBear, on 12 December 2009 - 07:19 PM, said:


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Sometimes I think he wrote it with the expectation that we would have to read it 2 or 3 times before we really figure out the richness and detail and how it all really does fit together.

so wow.  just wow.

Im at cca same place of complete reread and when got to this part, my jaw went to other dimension... OK, I got that SE has drawn storyline to TCG but its still stunning in its almost psychopathic detail... Like whole Silanda case stretched to three books.





Simply HAIL THE ERIKSON! :D
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Posted 13 December 2009 - 12:36 AM

The man has brains coming out of his ears.

Yes.

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Suck it Errant!


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QUOTE (KeithF @ Jun 30 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the most powerful force on Wu is a bunch of messed-up Malazans with Moranth munitions.


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Posted 13 December 2009 - 12:42 AM

It's such a hallmark of his work - all I can do is shake my head in admiration. The man loves to layer his narrative, and it shows.
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:39 AM

The most mind-blowing foreshadowing quote in Midnight Tides is a scene when Brys and Ceda Quru Quan are talking, at the beginning:
"Turudal Bizard?"
"Ah, such an errant..."
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Posted 18 February 2010 - 06:25 AM

You're kidding... :laughing:
Suck it Errant!


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QUOTE (KeithF @ Jun 30 2009, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt that the most powerful force on Wu is a bunch of messed-up Malazans with Moranth munitions.


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Posted 18 February 2010 - 10:44 PM

Holy crap, he's not:

MT p. 378 Tor MMPB said:

'Who forwarded the Chancellor's request?'

'What? Oh, Turudal Brizad.'

'Ah, yes. Such an errant, troubled lad. One sees such sorrow in his eyes, or at least in his demeanour.'

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:15 AM

The freaking hell! :laughing: The level of detail is simply mindblowing.

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Posted 19 February 2010 - 03:24 AM

You know what the lesson is kids? RE-READS ARE THE PATH TO ENLIGHTENMENT!
Trouble arrives when the opponents to such a system institute its extreme opposite, where individualism becomes godlike and sacrosanct, and no greater service to any other ideal (including community) is possible. In such a system rapacious greed thrives behind the guise of freedom, and the worst aspects of human nature come to the fore....
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 01:35 AM

Sorry I didn't have the exact quote. But when I was reading it (second time) I had to stop and read it again.


And I shat bricks.
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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:25 PM

I'm aware of this and noticing them. There are a lot...

He has foreshadowed a great deal from early published books. Onrack's name was thrown in a book before you met him too, a single throwaway line.

The first 5 chapters in A Game of Thrones too preluded the next three books.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:20 AM

Things like this are why I reread deck readings multiple times before moving on. Of course, I never can make much sense of them.   
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