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#701 User is offline   Kalse 

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:19 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 December 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:

What the hell deliberately obtuse?

There's only one person that I can think of who is "supposed to know that", and if he just revealed just to get the Bride's daughter lynched, then I'm honestly going to be pissed.


Well it must be pretty fucking important, then!

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:20 PM

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 11 December 2009 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:11 PM, said:

So yes, the bride kills Bill before taking the kid.

And Kalse, I assume that was via the reveal, and the bride couldn't have killed since she didn't have a sword before then. (Notice the scene did ninja stars, right?)


you seem pretty damn certain of that, Shadow. I think you know something the rest of us don't...


So you make a claim that cannot be proven. I say 'claim dosen't go with the movie', you claim we aren't following the movie closely, and I say we are.

That makes me scum, right?

So from what I understand, you are either lying, or you just revealed as Bill. I hope we have a healer.


Well I just don't see how you ever-so-confidently assume that because the scene from night 1 showed her getting a sword from Hanzo, that that most definitely mean with certainty that she couldn't kill before that. Why would you just go and assume such a thing?

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:22 PM

Ha! I thought he sounded like he was the kid, NOT Bill.

"Who watches the movie in the movie" is NOT Bill, but the child.

Hell, if I was Korbas with 2 vipers down already, I'd do the same thing.

Vote Korbas

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:25 PM

ok now im really not sure what to do, Kalse does bring up a good point that, the bride probably gets some bonuses or something if she manages to get the child, honestly i cant think what bonuses having a 4 year old with you would give but this is PBs game and hes a bit bizarre :p

#705 User is offline   Mockra 

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:26 PM

I gotta go to bed. What's our deadline stand at?

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:26 PM

jesus frigging christ

so much for NOT pointing out the obvious, Shadow

remove vote

vote Korbas


need I explain why?

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:27 PM

I think their saying that Kalse is Bill and Korbas is the child who might get recruited by the Bride. It does go along with Korbas' story if Kalse is Bill as im sure they would know eachother so it would explain Korb picking Kalse for his switchy dealy.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:27 PM

View PostMockra, on 11 December 2009 - 03:26 PM, said:

<br />I gotta go to bed.  What's our deadline stand at?<br />
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round 8 hours, by my reckoning

i'll be going to work soon though, so this is my last vote for the day.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:28 PM

View PostKalse, on 11 December 2009 - 03:20 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 11 December 2009 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:11 PM, said:

So yes, the bride kills Bill before taking the kid.

And Kalse, I assume that was via the reveal, and the bride couldn't have killed since she didn't have a sword before then. (Notice the scene did ninja stars, right?)


you seem pretty damn certain of that, Shadow. I think you know something the rest of us don't...


So you make a claim that cannot be proven. I say 'claim dosen't go with the movie', you claim we aren't following the movie closely, and I say we are.

That makes me scum, right?

So from what I understand, you are either lying, or you just revealed as Bill. I hope we have a healer.


Well I just don't see how you ever-so-confidently assume that because the scene from night 1 showed her getting a sword from Hanzo, that that most definitely mean with certainty that she couldn't kill before that. Why would you just go and assume such a thing?


Becuase that is what I think happened? That would explain the no-kill on night 1, if the Assassin missed the timer or something, and the Bride couldn't kill. Then night 2 someone tried to hit Kalse and hit Karatallid instead. Where is what I assume is at least one more kill? I am very worried at the lack of killing in this game. I assume a Kill Bill game would be loaded with murder.



Anyway, I guess I would like to hear from Korbas before I vote him. Why, Kalse, were you defending Sorrit so heavily? And then lied to make it seem like you were symping him. If you are Bill, then you should have been much more careful.



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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:30 PM

it'd be really ironic if Kalse just decided to test Mockra's idiotic theory.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:32 PM

work beckons

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:33 PM

I guess we do have to believe Kalse, it does make sense that they would know each other. I'm not sure the kid would know all the vipers, but we need to do everything we can to curtail the Bride's power.

vote Korbas

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:34 PM

it has occured to me that Kalse could just be doing this to get the pressure away from Sorrit and get rid of a useful role in the process. I mean noones going to counter claim him as it would basically be suicide

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:35 PM

Ok Kalse I have to know. How do you know you were going to lose control of the child tonight? Is it an automatic night 3 thing, or can the Bride recruit her?

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:36 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on 11 December 2009 - 03:16 PM, said:


There's only one person that I can think of who is "supposed to know that", and if he just revealed just to get the Bride's daughter lynched, then I'm honestly going to be pissed.


This much I can agree on.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:37 PM

Anyone know what that makes the vote count and timer now then?. I probably will go with a Korbas lynch as i dont think it would be a good idea to let the Bride have him if he is the child but i would like to find out a bit more and hear from Korbas if there's time

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:37 PM

Bedtime for bonzo.

G'nite. I should be back right before deadline.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:40 PM

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:28 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 11 December 2009 - 03:20 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostKalse, on 11 December 2009 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostShadow, on 11 December 2009 - 03:11 PM, said:

So yes, the bride kills Bill before taking the kid.

And Kalse, I assume that was via the reveal, and the bride couldn't have killed since she didn't have a sword before then. (Notice the scene did ninja stars, right?)


you seem pretty damn certain of that, Shadow. I think you know something the rest of us don't...


So you make a claim that cannot be proven. I say 'claim dosen't go with the movie', you claim we aren't following the movie closely, and I say we are.

That makes me scum, right?

So from what I understand, you are either lying, or you just revealed as Bill. I hope we have a healer.


Well I just don't see how you ever-so-confidently assume that because the scene from night 1 showed her getting a sword from Hanzo, that that most definitely mean with certainty that she couldn't kill before that. Why would you just go and assume such a thing?


Becuase that is what I think happened? That would explain the no-kill on night 1, if the Assassin missed the timer or something, and the Bride couldn't kill. Then night 2 someone tried to hit Kalse and hit Karatallid instead. Where is what I assume is at least one more kill? I am very worried at the lack of killing in this game. I assume a Kill Bill game would be loaded with murder.



Anyway, I guess I would like to hear from Korbas before I vote him. Why, Kalse, were you defending Sorrit so heavily? And then lied to make it seem like you were symping him. If you are Bill, then you should have been much more careful.



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The idea, Shadow, is to play without letting completely random-ass assumptions permeate your play. Sure, that's one possible explanation of why there was no kills night 1, but I can think of a dozen more explanations, but you don't see me bandying them about with absolute certainty because there's reason to assume those explanations are correct. That you would suddenly pop out with such a certain assumption is either foolish play or a scum slip. And I'd rather not make an ass out of myself by assuming it's the former.

As for defending Sorrit, well that was mostly to attack you and see the reaction it got (not to mention the sudden inclusion in the actual game). As for being careful, clearly you just don't understand that I've very carefully weighed the merits of this and judged appropriately based on the information I have. I could've exposed Korbas day 1 since I was pretty damn sure he was the kid back then, but it wasn't prudent then. It is now.

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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:42 PM

Good morning all. I have plenty to catch up on, so be patient if you were waiting for me.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 11 December 2009 - 03:43 PM

So wait, you don't 'know' who the kid is?

You just know his role?

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