[Path-Shaper]

I demand entertainment. Someone do something funny!

[Path-Shaper]

I am disappoint =(

[Alkend]

[Alkend]

Rashan makes a good point on the Fener cases dying early deaths both times maybe hinting at sympage, though from what i remember they were both a bit crap anyway so im not sure if we can really get much from them. Barghast im not sure about as im not that familiar with the case on him, will have to check that up i think

[Kalse]

Another viper and no NK again, huh? Sure this isn't a Twilight-Zone themed game?

Well I haven't much to say except that if there's a guard who's guarded the same person twice it's time to reveal who you targeted so we can lynch their NK-failing ass.

[Path-Shaper]

I can't say I know what the Twilight Zone game is. Before my time.

[Alkend]

Possibly, but in a game where everyone is probably roled, there are a number of possibilities for the no kill that dont involve a guard so a guard revealing could be a bad move if people are still alive because of BPs or heals or possibly some bodyguard mechanic

[Sorrit]

Another viper gone .

As Galayn Lord pointed out, the possibility of going after a viper seems to be a monkey on people's backs, which makes it less likely that other cases are going to be pushed all that hard. After 3-4 votes were put on, it became almost inevitable that a lynch was going to happen. However, this train does give us some information to work with.

The fact that the train was built on a player who had said that he wouldn't be back until deadline could be important - it's much easier to build up momentum on a case when your target isn't around to defend himself, after all. For that reason, I'm a little suspicious of Kalse - he was the one who kicked things off with his vote.

Kalse, on 10 December 2009 - 05:10 AM, said:

well after extensive rereading and nodding off a few times, i dont like any of the main candidates so far. fener may be angry and shouty but in this case he was right to be pissed about people putting words in his mouth. words of straw. and i cant see how that makes for a vote-worthy reaction if its justified like that.

The entire Barghast train is based solely on a single post point wherein he came back all righteous and over-reactive after Spite's death-by reveal, which may not be the most open-minded kind of reaction, but it's one post and doesn't paint him as scum solely by that. I need more to go on than that.

The closest thing to a believable case I can see is Tellan, who has alternated from joining into pissing contests to later trying to be the voice of reasoning. Despite the new logical tone of voice, he's still over-exerting himself in trying to push a case on Mockra that amounts to little more than "he made a stupid suggestion". This tunnel-visioned offensive, whilst trying to achieve a more sheep-inducing style of argument, seems to me to be the most likely voice of scum from amongst the current bunch. More likely a supporting scum and not the Bride herself, but it's all I can see at the moment and I'd like to give Tellan more exposure than just that single pseudo-OMGUS vote from Mockra. Therefore,

Vote Tellan

and with that im signing off for the evening as i have plenty of work to do before i hop into bed in a few hours. rest assured i sincerely doubt ill get up in the mid of the night to be on before the deadline. night!

Note that he says that he's unlikely to be around before deadline. This casts the seeds of doubt about time pressure in people's minds. The pretext is that he wants to give Tellan more exposure, but what he essentially did was set him up for a lynch. He knew Tellan wasn't going to be back, so he set the ball rolling in the hope of thinning the ranks of the town.

I'll have a look at some of Kalse's other posts later, but for now I'm going to drop a vote.

Vote Kalse


Note that I also find Barghast suspicious for similar reasons.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 3. 28 hours and 40 minutes remain.

16 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit

9 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Kalse (Sorrit)

Players who have not voted: 16 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow

---

[Rashan]

So I went back over some low /mid low posters. Check this out:

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

Go choke on a bag of dicks!

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:39 PM, said:

Hrm. Bag of Dicks.

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:46 PM, said:

Korbas, on 07 December 2009 - 09:41 PM, said:

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:39 PM, said:

Hrm. Bag of Dicks.

You pretenting to be dkt? He's not around at this time.

weird. All of a sudden, <br> shows up a gazillion times every time I quote something. Not good

Stop hitting your <BR> button.

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:49 PM, said:

Kalse, on 07 December 2009 - 09:47 PM, said:

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:46 PM, said:

Korbas, on 07 December 2009 - 09:41 PM, said:

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:39 PM, said:

Hrm. Bag of Dicks.

You pretenting to be dkt? He's not around at this time.

weird. All of a sudden, <br> shows up a gazillion times every time I quote something. Not good

Stop hitting your <BR> button.

i dont get it is that some band or somethin?

Here in Poland it is shorthand for criminals.

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:54 PM, said:

Fener, on 07 December 2009 - 09:53 PM, said:

I'm the assassin

What an amazing reveal this early in the day!

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 09:57 PM, said:

Karatallid, on 07 December 2009 - 09:56 PM, said:

First?

More like 9th.

Care to try again?

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:00 PM, said:

Slips this to Karatallid

8====>~

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:03 PM, said:

Kalse, on 07 December 2009 - 10:01 PM, said:

trying to make an dragonsex ascii but it is hard

That is what the she-dragon said!
Karatallid enjoys bags of dicks every night in front of his TV.

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:07 PM, said:

Yo dragon mama so scaly, when she tried to eat a bag of dicks it grew legs and ran away.

[Rashan]

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:11 PM, said:

Yo dragon mama is so whorish and stupid, she tried to have sex with the bride while she was in a coma, only to find out that she didn't have the parts!

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:14 PM, said:

Yo dragon mama so fat, when she sits around the lair, she literally sits AROUND the lair.

Shadow, on 07 December 2009 - 10:28 PM, said:

avatar: the last airbender is a bucket of chicken dicks

Shadow, on 09 December 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

back and catching up

Shadow, on 09 December 2009 - 03:50 PM, said:

So I did a re-read from page 3, and you know who stands out to me?
Sorrit.
Sure, Tellan was in a pissing match with Spite. Why did Sorrit jump in there? Why did he feel the need to be involved, meanwhile I don't think Sorrit voted.
Then, he vanishes until a little earlier today, when he starts spouting off about a FM. Sowing confusion and paranoia? Quite happy with that implosion from Spite, and now are trying to turn people who possibly know of each other against each other?

Vote Sorrit

I also agree with Korbas's post 380 (6 posts up) in its entirety. Look, now I'm symping him too!

Shadow, on 09 December 2009 - 03:56 PM, said:

GL, you mean Spite there?

So we have 15 posts. 13 are joke posts, 1 is a post telling us he is catching up, and one is an Off-the-wall, out of nowhere, 3 other lynch probables, Vote that screams wtf...


If we don't get a viable lynch target I am going to vote Shadow on Principle


X-post with Sorrit

[Rashan]

In a game where There has been no NK, but 2 seperate killing factions, Kalse also just tried to out a Guard.

[Galayn Lord]

I won't lecture anyone this game, but indeed Shadow's posts have been less than stellar.

I can't say I have any explanation about the lack of NKs, but I agree that I don't want to see anyone reveal on that basis.

Both the Bride and the Assassin lose if they die, so they must be BPed up the ass. Hopefully they are hacking away at each other

[Kalse]

Alkend, on 10 December 2009 - 06:07 PM, said:

Possibly, but in a game where everyone is probably roled, there are a number of possibilities for the no kill that dont involve a guard so a guard revealing could be a bad move if people are still alive because of BPs or heals or possibly some bodyguard mechanic

I was only inferring if someone had done a double-guard. While it's possible that someone did double-guard and it was entirely something else that prevented NKs, the odds are pretty good that the target was a killer (or else we're incredibly lucky or the game is quite unbalanced).

[Kalse]

Sorrit, on 10 December 2009 - 06:22 PM, said:

Another viper gone .

As Galayn Lord pointed out, the possibility of going after a viper seems to be a monkey on people's backs, which makes it less likely that other cases are going to be pushed all that hard. After 3-4 votes were put on, it became almost inevitable that a lynch was going to happen. However, this train does give us some information to work with.

The fact that the train was built on a player who had said that he wouldn't be back until deadline could be important - it's much easier to build up momentum on a case when your target isn't around to defend himself, after all. For that reason, I'm a little suspicious of Kalse - he was the one who kicked things off with his vote.

Kalse, on 10 December 2009 - 05:10 AM, said:

well after extensive rereading and nodding off a few times, i dont like any of the main candidates so far. fener may be angry and shouty but in this case he was right to be pissed about people putting words in his mouth. words of straw. and i cant see how that makes for a vote-worthy reaction if its justified like that.

The entire Barghast train is based solely on a single post point wherein he came back all righteous and over-reactive after Spite's death-by reveal, which may not be the most open-minded kind of reaction, but it's one post and doesn't paint him as scum solely by that. I need more to go on than that.

The closest thing to a believable case I can see is Tellan, who has alternated from joining into pissing contests to later trying to be the voice of reasoning. Despite the new logical tone of voice, he's still over-exerting himself in trying to push a case on Mockra that amounts to little more than "he made a stupid suggestion". This tunnel-visioned offensive, whilst trying to achieve a more sheep-inducing style of argument, seems to me to be the most likely voice of scum from amongst the current bunch. More likely a supporting scum and not the Bride herself, but it's all I can see at the moment and I'd like to give Tellan more exposure than just that single pseudo-OMGUS vote from Mockra. Therefore,

Vote Tellan

and with that im signing off for the evening as i have plenty of work to do before i hop into bed in a few hours. rest assured i sincerely doubt ill get up in the mid of the night to be on before the deadline. night!

Note that he says that he's unlikely to be around before deadline. This casts the seeds of doubt about time pressure in people's minds. The pretext is that he wants to give Tellan more exposure, but what he essentially did was set him up for a lynch. He knew Tellan wasn't going to be back, so he set the ball rolling in the hope of thinning the ranks of the town.

I'll have a look at some of Kalse's other posts later, but for now I'm going to drop a vote.

Vote Kalse


Note that I also find Barghast suspicious for similar reasons.

Ooh yeah, I really screwed Tellan over by putting him at L-7...

I didn't like his play, but his only vote was a pseudo-OMGUS from Mockra, so I bumped him to 2 votes (and therefore equal with Barghast) so that people wouldn't just discard the Tellan case by dismissing the one vote as OMGUS. I don't see how you can completely blame me for getting a viper lynched when 7 more people had to agree and vote themselves.

[Galayn Lord]

OK, the Assassin needs everyone dead, and I don't think he has any "allies", at least none mentioned in the opening posts.


I personally have been having massive second thoughts about voting anyone until now, because of the reasons I stated before. I'm not saying that's intelligent, because we do need our enemies dead, but it's a problem I'm still stuggling to solve. The Bride has allies, and might be happy to NK and vig any Viper that ends up forced to reveal. (automatically or by choice) For this, I could see her pushing a lynch, but not finishing it in the hope of a forced reveal.

All this to say, I think there's a good chance the Assassin is found here:

Path-Shaper, on 10 December 2009 - 02:08 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 21 minutes remained when the final vote was cast.

17 players still alive: Alkend, Barghast, D'riss, Eloth, Fener, Galayn Lord, Hood's Path, Kalse, Karatallid, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Shadow, Sorrit, Tellan

9 votes are required to lynch.

1 Vote Fener (Eloth)
1 Vote Liosan (Galayn Lord)
1 Vote Sorrit (Shadow)
2 Votes Barghast (Tellan, Karatallid)
10 Votes Tellan (Mockra, Kalse, Barghast, Korbas, Alkend, Karatallid, D'riss, Liosan, Tellan, Hood's Path)

Not voted: Alkend, D'riss, Fener, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Sorrit

---

Tellan has been lynched, a scene is coming.

[Galayn Lord]

Er, wait, I don't think Tellan voted himself. I'll go see who it was.

[Galayn Lord]

OK, 'twas Eloth.

[Galayn Lord]

Haha, looks like people are waiting to read my spectacular conclusion.

I don't really have any, but

vote Liosan

to be consistent. That's two days in a row he fits in my mini-cases that try to take into account the particularities of this game. I'm bound to be right somehow.

[Kalse]

Not a bad thought, I suppose.

You say "but not finishing it", so wouldn't that exclude the last two?

The assassin would most likely (to my mind anyway) be just trying to keep his head low, so he'd be most likely closer to the middle of the group, but could also be on the end, as well.