[Korbas]

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 10:41 PM, said:

Korbas, you really think Telas is Liu?? only Meanas could confirm or deny that, as he knows who Yuan Shao is...and you don't see him even looking in that direction. imo the Lynch has to be you or Sukul.

Yes, but I don't think Meanas is on Yuan Shaos team any more...

[Korbas]

Also, it is pretty likely Omtose is on Lius team.

If it comes down to it, and there's no strong idea about Liu, I would be happy to lynch him, rather than risking throwing the game away.

[Ruse]

I guess that's possible, and he isn't outing Yuan Shao in the off chance that he gets recruited back. Good point.

[Korbas]

I would also like to point out that you are dismissing Spite because you think he is my subordinate.

Spite could well be Liu, and lynches on him have slid in the past.

[Korbas]

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 10:44 PM, said:

I guess that's possible, and he isn't outing Yuan Shao in the off chance that he gets recruited back. Good point.

And because a Yuan Shao lynch isn't too likely at this point.

If he tells us who he is, it may just mean that we don't lynch that person, which is one more person not on Lius team we're avoiding.

[Korbas]

In fact, there's not any actual evidence that he's not a leader himself. He's admitted his claims were just made up.

He says he's low level etc, but that's not necessarily true.

[Meanas]

You're welcome to sew doubt on the thread all you want, Korbas, but you're basically admitting being a leader of some kind, or powerful enough that you don't want to give any information out.

I've given quite a bit of info, much of which is easily verified.

I agree that it's likely Omtose is a member of a strong team, and he's basically asking to get recruited tonight... which could indicate he knows he can't be recruited...?

I can't help but feel that you and Omtose are hiding a leader and the level 4 'guard' in the game between the two of you right now.

[Ruse]

Now it just seems like you are throwing crap against the wall to see if any of it sticks.

By, stating that you think Telas is Lui and by admiting that Omtose is likely on the most powerful team you are basically admitting to being a leader. You aren't Yuan Shao. That leaves Yuan Shu. The fact that you refuse to reveal any type of information on thread further confirms that.

Either admit to it or deny it. but you are making yourself look bad. Keep on truckin though, Spite will be by to save you in a couple hours

edit: x-post. this Post was @ Meanas

This post has been edited by Ruse: 17 February 2010 - 11:28 PM

[Ruse]

Alright, I am out for a couple hours. I'll be back well before lynch time. Will be interesting to see what everyone has to say.

[Meanas]

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

Now it just seems like you are throwing crap against the wall to see if any of it sticks.

By, stating that you think Telas is Lui and by admiting that Omtose is likely on the most powerful team you are basically admitting to being a leader. You aren't Yuan Shao. That leaves Yuan Shu. The fact that you refuse to reveal any type of information on thread further confirms that.

Either admit to it or deny it. but you are making yourself look bad. Keep on truckin though, Spite will be by to save you in a couple hours

edit: x-post. this Post was @ Meanas

@ Meanas?

[Korbas]

Meanas, whichever way you look at it, revealing can't possibly help me or my faction.

If I am not a leader, the only way to prove that is to reveal my leader. I have not been recruited twice, so don't have leaders to sacrifice. I can't prove I am not a leader.
If I am Liu Bei, revealing gets me lynched.
If I am Yuan Shu, revealing means that I am lynched as soon as Liu Bei is dealt with.

Ruse, as for "admit or deny" I have consistently denied it. If you want a flat out denial, here you are, I am not a leader.

But I have no way of proving it. There have been so many role PMs posted by now that it would be easy to reproduce one. If people are just going to look at it and think that i'm probably lying anyhow, what good does it do? I could tell you who recruited me, and when. But that doesn't prove to you that it is true.

Liu Bei is priority. Hopefully people realise I am unlikely to be Liu Bei. So, lycnhing me today is a bad move. I expect I will probably be lynched shortly after Liu Bei, but since I can't prove i'm not Yuan Shu, what do you think I should do?

[Korbas]

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 12:11 AM, said:

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 11:28 PM, said:

Now it just seems like you are throwing crap against the wall to see if any of it sticks.

By, stating that you think Telas is Lui and by admiting that Omtose is likely on the most powerful team you are basically admitting to being a leader. You aren't Yuan Shao. That leaves Yuan Shu. The fact that you refuse to reveal any type of information on thread further confirms that.

Either admit to it or deny it. but you are making yourself look bad. Keep on truckin though, Spite will be by to save you in a couple hours

edit: x-post. this Post was @ Meanas

@ Meanas?

I would guess he meant Korbas...

[Korbas]

"By, stating that you think Telas is Lui and by admiting that Omtose is likely on the most powerful team you are basically admitting to being a leader."

How so?

Just means that I think Omtose is Telas' sub, and I think that Telas is the leader of the most powerful faction.

[Korbas]

Meanas, on 17 February 2010 - 11:12 PM, said:

I've given quite a bit of info, much of which is easily verified.

Like how Korv was Yuan Shao?

We verified that, and it turned out you were lying.

It's odd that you seem to have completely avoided suspicion though. I mean, considering how you've been leading everyone on with falsehoods. Strange how, even though it's been proven you were lying about sveral things, people seem rather accepting that you were telling the truth about being recruited by Yuan Shao at all(because he's hardly likely to come on thread and deny) and that you are as low as you say you are.

I still suspect Telas more, but dislike how you're being written off.

[Korbas]

I just read over Ruse, and this stood out.

Ruse, on 17 February 2010 - 05:40 PM, said:

I was recruited by Okaros on night one. He was then lynched day 2 and I have been in Limbo ever since. Thats why Meanas couldn't recruit me. Thats why i had the mega-poston why we should vote off spite and not Okaros on day 2.

Since when has a persons leader being lynched made you unrecruitable?

I mean, if you can recruit someone when there leader is still alive, why would that change when they died?

Am I just getting paranoid, or does Ruse seem to be lying about something?

Makes sense that he would want people to believe he was on no-ones team, and unrecruitable. It's a good place to hide.

[Korbas]

No one talking?

[Meanas]

I'm pretty sure Ruse has slipped on 3 details now. The one you just pointed out, the one I pointed out earlier where he 'typod' his name instead of Omtose, and the one not far above I just pointed out where he basically did an @ Meanas when he was clearly responding to someone else.

I'm sorry but the whole thing just bothers me. How do you get that many simple details wrong unless you're constantly trying to make facts up on the fly?

I think voting Ruse may be the best move... and I have no idea who is on his team.

[Korbas]

Possibly.

I dislike the fact that he seems to be making up a reason that he's not on anyones team which doens't make sense to me. It would seem he just doens't want us to think he's on someones team.

On the other hand, I think you're on Liu Beis team. Which means that any time you suggest lynching someone it makes me worry you're just doing it to make sure we hit someone not on Beis team...

Wouldn't mind voting Ruse.

[Meanas]

Vote Ruse

I don't trust him any more. His comments are just as deceitful as any body else.

[Korbas]

Meanas, on 18 February 2010 - 12:51 AM, said:

Vote Ruse

I don't trust him any more. His comments are just as deceitful as any body else.

Probably not yours though, to be fair