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Path-Shaper, on 26 November 2009 - 06:28 PM, said:

yes it will be. Though i don't see the denarians winning unless they recruit Eloth. (they need the extreme wheather)

and if mockra is recruited, he'll still have the wheather changing ability + feed + investigate? does his powerlevel get up? he still can talk with Eloth?

To the point: Ampelas is now gunning for Ruse. Should fail though, 'cause they have equal powerlevel. (though how could nicodemus be killed by harry, as the first post suggests? harry needs twice his powerlevel to kill.)


and olar ethil requested a modkill. Could you deal with this (and an eventual freeze), obdi? I will do it in some hours, if you aren't around (thanksgiving and stuff), but I'm a bit anxious about deciding things as I'm not even official co-mod.

~Dinivan

I was under the impression Ruse could kill Amp is Mouse backed him up, the same way it worked for the knights. And ELoth is moving towards extreme weather anyway, the cabal and denarians have similar enough win conditions that they can win together.

[Path-Shaper]

true enough, though it'll be hard if both Gamelon and Mockra turn the heater on. Either way, recruiting Mockra will change this game around.

What do you guys think about a time-freeze from now to, say, midnight sunday, GMT? I'm in favour, it's already slow and it will be even slower if the Americans start travelling around visiting friends/family for thanksgiving.

~Dinivan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 November 2009 - 07:16 PM

[drinksinbars]

end it now and give me athe win

i say freeze it with a few hours left. no one has been about.

[Path-Shaper]

froze it until friday, 16:00 GMT. Mostly because I can end it then before heading home, and I think that the Americans can just pop in then.

I will extend this if I think it might be a good idea


and I would award you the win anyday. Which might or might not have to do with the fact that we are in the same faction

[drinksinbars]

i did think you meant finish the day first but either or is good. now rashan made a case against dresden, this should be interesting.

[Path-Shaper]

If the pace doesn't pick up dramatically I will put on the freeze for the whole weekend before the day times out. There are a lot of people who haven't particpated in this because of the holidays. The reason why I just extended the day is because I wanted to give Obdi the opportunity to has his say in this before there is a whole weekend freeze. It is a bit arkward to extend the same day twice, but hey, I'm an evil mod

it'll be interesting how this plays out. I wonder how Osseric will react, someday someone will notice how they work together (pushing Okaros and Mockra together on two consecutive days).

Rashan follows Eloth. This means that both weather changers will be prevented from their action this night. The wheather will actually warm up

~Dinivan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 November 2009 - 08:28 AM

[Path-Shaper]

So here is the PM Anthras referred to:

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But.

I just want to say, if I ever have a place in High House Mafia it should be a title of something like "Irrelevant Spectre of High House Mafia."

I don't think I've been lynched since I was Big Ben and the finder got me.

I am occasionally (but not often) night killed.

But here I am, on day 4, having been neither targeted for lynch, NK or recruitment. Just another game where I'm lasting to the end...

If I could bottle and sell my ability to fly under everyone's radar, I would. I know I haven't posted a lot this game, since I was gone all weekend, but still, the way people pick out innocuous "slips" I wonder why no one does this to me.

I will absolutely love it if I can win as RI by just surviving. It would be appropriate.

as a note, I don't get the hang on how whole conservations can be quoted here. This PM quoting is a real drag with the speed of the PC here, so I'm neglecting it. I'll perhaps catch up once I'm really bored.

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth:

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I am pretty pleased with post 1422, not to mention Anthras' comment for it. I need the focus away from PB and if I have to defend Morgy for it, so be it .

Unfortunately, while I think I turned the danger of a PB lynch away, there's plenty of future risk. I openly defended two players, and if I ever get lynched/ killed/ found, both of them are likely to swing next when I turn up Cabal. Tis the way of malazan mafia.

Ruse revealing would hurt me badly, hopefully he gets lynched before he's back or reveals as anything but winter. If he reveals as not-winter I cannot push. Pushing gets me lynched, and then PB, my part is played for now.

Dammit. I also have the nagging feeling that I will not get offered a coin again tonight, but instead become a rather innovative denarian hair accessory.

Oh well, game's a blast

[Path-Shaper]

Osseric and Ruse are now planning a finder reveal from Osseric tomorrow in order to get Mockra lynched. Part of the convo:

Osseric, on 27 November 2009 - 02:06 PM, said:

Oh yes, I didn't mean now. I wouldn't have revealed Mockra now if I were you anyway. It would have looked like you had something to hide (which you do, but anyway), and you would probably be dead tonight.

Alright, I'll reveal finder tomoz. How's this on for size?

I'm Bob, lecherous spirit of intellect. I'm not human (that's why HP's master's recruitment failed), but am allied to Dresden. I have intellectus, and upon pondering the identity of a certain player, I find out who they are.

Actually no, Harry lets me out each night, and inbetween being my usual self, attending sorority parties and the like, I follow a certain player and find out who they are.

Ruse, on 27 November 2009 - 02:25 PM, said:

that's pretty cool.

actually, if you do that, I won't kill Mockra.

instead, I'll do a find, so that you can keep your story straight.

now, we need to think of a find for you for Night 1...

Osseric, on 27 November 2009 - 02:28 PM, said:

How about Emurlahn? I can say he was Michael Carpenter. They'll buy that. Then night 2 we have HP. Night 3 Tennes. Night 4 I can't remember who you investigated. Night 5 Mockra. Sound good?

I'd find on Eloth or D'riss. Then we can comfortably sew up a fair few people.

I wonder if I can get Mockra to vote Mockra?

Ruse, on 27 November 2009 - 02:30 PM, said:

night 4 I got nothing, b/c the doggy barked all night

the only issue may be is Emu was Sanya or Shiro, and real Michael reveals.

next days look to be interesting

[Path-Shaper]

day ended in a no lynch, night is under way.

Only Eloth's NA is still missing.

I'm off.

[bubba]

IMMUHO. not freezing the day was .......................yea, I will go with stupid.

[Dinivan]

Bubba, on 27 November 2009 - 04:42 PM, said:

IMMUHO. not freezing the day was .......................yea, I will go with stupid.

go with whatever you like but don't apply it to me.

Why was it stupid? Just because they didn't get a lynch in? By that reason you could just abandon timelimits.

I said thursday that I would extend the day for more than 20 hours. To bridge the yank's holiday. That means everyone had 20+ hours to drop a post / PM / whatever on thread or here on spoiler to tell me that my new deadline is rubbish. No one did so. The only one who advocated a total freeze was Ruse and HE had a lot of contribution on this day, so there was no need to freeze the time because of him.

I didn't make this decision easily. Whatever you might think, Obdi never really appointed me the official co-mod or left any notes or whatever. This game is complicated enough and I know as much about it as anyone reading spoiler heaven. Even less cause I haven't read the series - only book one so far. But I'm often around when Obdi isn't because I have easy access from work. So I help out with votecounts, resolving day and night if I think I can handle it. But I feel hardly authorized to make gamebraeking decisions like timefreezes. I was convinced that due to holiday an extension would be reasonable on thursday. However, I had a long internal debate and asked around for advice. The only one who decided to really advice me on this was dibs, and he would have ended the day on thursday. That was no easy decision, I debated for hours upon what to do, and I think I made a reasonable decision.

I went with an extension rather a total freeze since it is a lighter variation of the rules rather than the bigger one.

No one complained about it, so how was it stupid to stand by my decision announced on thread?

Have you read the day? there was lots of contribution, and all they came up were cases based on day 1 banter. On day fucking SIX. OMG THEY DIDNT MANAGE TO GET A LYNCH WITH SUCH A CASE OMG OMG OMG STUPID IDIOT MOD. Really. They had a chance. Ruse left without voting. They more or less decided to not lynch on that day. and it was reasonable.

Timelines are there for a reason. No one complained. I didn't cut off some super duper case. In fact, I played by the rules I announced. They could have talked ages without a good case.

I'm not stupid.

And it seems as if I have to resolve a complicated night without having a notion about how Nicodemus looks like. So it will probably a stupid scene, but the game goes on.

This post has been edited by Dinivan: 28 November 2009 - 11:03 AM

[Path-Shaper]

So night 6, what happens:

D'riss recruits Mockra (higher powerlevel). Tell Mockra new alliance, I don't know if he gets powerlevels or new abilities, so far I'll tell him that he keeps his old abilities and that he has to continue to lie to Eloth.

Ruse gets told that D'riss is Bianca. ( his find consists of sending out a demon, not doing it in person, so ampelas attack won't prevent him)

Meanas gets told that Osseric is Molly. (will make todays reveal interesting, no?)

Ampelas attacks Ruse, but kill fails due to powerlevel. Will try to write a scene about this, so they don't need a PM.

Rashan follows Eloth. For the knights, changing the weather is evil, so he'll prevent it. Eloths NA gets cancelled. Both will get a PM about this.

that means its Game +1 and Mockra -1 so wheather stays where it is (-6).

[bubba]

Dinivan, on 28 November 2009 - 09:49 AM, said:

Bubba, on 27 November 2009 - 04:42 PM, said:

IMMUHO. not freezing the day was .......................yea, I will go with stupid.

go with whatever you like but don't apply it to me.

Why was it stupid? Just because they didn't get a lynch in? By that reason you could just abandon timelimits.

I said thursday that I would extend the day for more than 20 hours. To bridge the yank's holiday. That means everyone had 20+ hours to drop a post / PM / whatever on thread or here on spoiler to tell me that my new deadline is rubbish. No one did so. The only one who advocated a total freeze was Ruse and HE had a lot of contribution on this day, so there was no need to freeze the time because of him.

I didn't make this decision easily. Whatever you might think, Obdi never really appointed me the official co-mod or left any notes or whatever. This game is complicated enough and I know as much about it as anyone reading spoiler heaven. Even less cause I haven't read the series - only book one so far. But I'm often around when Obdi isn't because I have easy access from work. So I help out with votecounts, resolving day and night if I think I can handle it. But I feel hardly authorized to make gamebraeking decisions like timefreezes. I was convinced that due to holiday an extension would be reasonable on thursday. However, I had a long internal debate and asked around for advice. The only one who decided to really advice me on this was dibs, and he would have ended the day on thursday. That was no easy decision, I debated for hours upon what to do, and I think I made a reasonable decision.

I went with an extension rather a total freeze since it is a lighter variation of the rules rather than the bigger one.

No one complained about it, so how was it stupid to stand by my decision announced on thread?

Have you read the day? there was lots of contribution, and all they came up were cases based on day 1 banter. On day fucking SIX. OMG THEY DIDNT MANAGE TO GET A LYNCH WITH SUCH A CASE OMG OMG OMG STUPID IDIOT MOD. Really. They had a chance. Ruse left without voting. They more or less decided to not lynch on that day. and it was reasonable.

Timelines are there for a reason. No one complained. I didn't cut off some super duper case. In fact, I played by the rules I announced. They could have talked ages without a good case.

I'm not stupid.

And it seems as if I have to resolve a complicated night without having a notion about how Nicodemus looks like. So it will probably a stupid scene, but the game goes on.

It wasn't a personal attack.....but if that how feel about it, I not going to loose any sleep over it. The Comment was directed to OB1 for his lack of participation in him own game.

[Sir Thursday]

Obdi always seems to disappear during his games - IIRC, he was gone for large chunks of the spaceship game, too...

[Dinivan]

I understood your post in the way that you were calling a decision I struggled very hard with just plain stupid without giving any reasons and thus attacked my help-modding of this game. As this wasn't your intention I apologize for my harsh reaction.

It's actually quiet interesting behind the scenes

Mockra has actually told Eloth that he's a vampire now, and proposed that Eloth is the next recruit. Both D'riss and Eloth have agreed, they want to rise the temperature and win as bloodsuckers. Hooray if it works.

I'm still not sure if Mockra gains the feed + follow abilities in addition to his wheather changing. I think it would be logical (as these seem to be the typical powers every vampire possesses), what's your oppinion on the matter?

And some thoughts from Rashan:

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I miss Imp. Having somebody to talk to during this is always better. Plus, he was stronger than me and I'm assuming Nicodemus got him. Meaning he could be coming after me.

However, because I didn't get HIS identity, I'll assume he didn't get MY identity. Because, I'll be honest, just revealing on thread is tempting to get the information out there for Harry pretty strong right now, before I die.

Thoughts on the factions:

Vampires:

D'riss
Mockra?
Ruse
Anthras
Fener (dead)
HP (recruit, dead)

Winter Court:

Liosan (dead)
Korvalain
Okaros

Summer Court:

Gamelon (soon to be dead)
Osseric
???

Denarians:
Tennes (dead)
Mockra?
Osseric?

Harry's Faction:
Kaschan
???
???
???

Knights of the Cross:
Michael (dead)
Me

Cabal:
Serc (dead)
OE
Meanas
Ampelas

Complete fucking unknowns:
Eloth
Meanas
Ruse
Ampelas
Olar Ethil (not RI)

Barghast (dead)
Galayn Lord (dead)
Tulas Shorn (dead)
Silchas Ruin (dead)

What a confusing fucking game. As the possible sole remaining member of my faction currently giving a fuck, I can't play outrageously. As soon as I announce, I'm fucking toast from Nicodemus. Not sure even Harry could protect me.

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So, at what point do I reveal D'riss and Eloth? Don't know how much longer I'm going to last this game with Nicodemus and another Denarian running around.

Maybe try to squeeze at one more night? Sigh. I haven't been attacked in a couple of days, so who knows.

and from Korvalain:

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Right I want to use my suicide ninja ability on Anthras please. Want to take the git with me.

GK

[Path-Shaper]

well, I don't think that finders are evil per se in a faction game.

What makes it so hard here is the fact that there is a 'good faction' that aren't lynchable and 'evil factions' that everyone must pretend to want to lynch (even the other evil factions). and harry is a really powerful role.

The irony is that the evil factions (2 Vampires + Eloth + 2 Denarians + Gamelon) could form an alliance with a lynch controlling voting block (6 votes) who could agree on lynching Harry and then moving the wheather to +10. They could, in fact, bag the game.

However, as long as they don't come together, they will lose by lynching each other.

And Harry is bulletproof due to his powerlevel. Or should I go with the interpretation that last night's attacked has weakened harry to the point that he can be killed now? In that case his hiding behind wards ability would make some sense.

So far, Ampelas is wasting his NA on trying to kill Harry again. And meanas wants osseric to vote Korvalain.

Anyhow, this is a tough spot for the 'evil alliance'.

[bubba]

Ended day, Driss was lynched. Welcome Morgy....it was a very trendy scarf......lol

[Morgoth]

hah, well fuck me. That could've gone so well if it hadn't been for the finder Suddenly, with the weather changers we were looking at a possibility - though slight - of pulling out a victory... I do hold here that finders (role and name no less) are pretty much always a bad idea in merc games, but I guess it's a matter of personal preference.

A valid but futile defence I think. I knew I was going to be lynched, but it was worth a shot. Damn JA, I had him spotted early on and was praying for his Norwegian-blind-spot to kick into effect, but no such luck alas.

And man, I would so have grabbed that coin had it been offered

.. also, a shame we're not getting conversations posted. Or, I see how whole conversations would be difficult, but individual posts are easy to copy over.

what happens with PB now?

[Morgoth]

my scarf is awesome