[Lord Zack the Destroyer]

My guess is Ganoes Paran. Yours?

[HoosierDaddy]

Old American cover? The dude on a horse with a lady? Popular opinion is Whiskeyjack and Sorry.

The even more popular opinion is that American Cover art for this series is horrible.

[amphibian]

Lord Zack the Destroyer, on 10 November 2009 - 03:53 AM, said:

My guess is Ganoes Paran. Yours?

Which cover?

Erikson's website has all of them - I think.

The American original cover had a man on horseback drawing a sword from his back. That's probably Whiskeyjack.

The limited edition cover has Anomander Rake, done by Michael Komarck, and another has a wizard, who might be Tayschrenn.

[Silencer]

Isn't Coll the only heavily-armoured character who rides a horse? That would fit the Tor original cover. Though he's a minor character all things considered...

[caladanbrood]

The original UK cover is Rake looming over Pale, the first US cover is Whiskejack and Apsalar in what has to be the two worst character depictions I've ever seen, and after that first edition, all the other US covers left out Apsalar at least...

[Gilgamesh]

The UK covers are so much nicer in general...

[Salt-Man Z]

I'll agree that the dude on the horse is likely intended to be WJ, but my brain always insists on seeing him as Paran, regardless of the armor.

[Clip]

The best of the GotM covers has got to be the Subterranean Press limited edition of Rake. Plus the plates inside are incredible. Love that artist.

[Ulrik]

Clip, on 26 November 2009 - 06:05 PM, said:

The best of the GotM covers has got to be the Subterranean Press limited edition of Rake. Plus the plates inside are incredible. Love that artist.

I´m still kooking for hi-res versions of this really incredible plates...doesnt someone have...?

[EsotericForest]

I like the US. covers better in general, expect for Gardens of the Moon. When you introduce the book to a new reader, it's almost embarassing to hand them that haha. But...popular belief is that Whiskeyjack is on the cover, however...isn't he supposed to look a bit older?

[caladanbrood]

He is supposed to rather grizzled, and sure, a bit older, but we'll call that artistic license;)




It's not just popular belief that it's WJ, by the way. The artist (Todd Lockwood - http://www.toddlockwood.com/) used to post on the forums a bit when asking for recommendations for what should be on the later covers (MoI, HoC, MT etc) he confirmed it for us 

This post has been edited by caladanbrood: 30 November 2009 - 01:17 AM

[Salt-Man Z]

caladanbrood, on 30 November 2009 - 01:17 AM, said:

He is supposed to rather grizzled, and sure, a bit older, but we'll call that artistic license;)

It's not just popular belief that it's WJ, by the way. The artist (Todd Lockwood - http://www.toddlockwood.com/) used to post on the forums a bit when asking for recommendations for what should be on the later covers (MoI, HoC, MT etc) he confirmed it for us 

Um. The cover artist for the Tor version of GotM is Stephen Youll. Lockwood didn't start doing MBotF covers until MoI. (With DG reusing Steve Stone's UK cover.)

[George Awesome]

The fourth cover down on SE's site? No way is that Whiskeyjack.

I mean maybe it was an attempt, but ...

From the first few pages: Whiskeyjack has gray eyes - that guy has blue (I think - zoom in). Whiskeyjack has a "scarred" face, burns on his left jaw, and a dark gray shoulder cloak with a silver brooch.

Cover Guy looks like a Calvin Klein model, and no way is he past 35. Gotta be Paran.

</dorking out>

This post has been edited by George Awesome: 14 December 2009 - 11:13 PM

[caladanbrood]

 

Salt-Man Z, on 02 December 2009 - 08:57 PM, said:

Um. The cover artist for the Tor version of GotM is Stephen Youll. Lockwood didn't start doing MBotF covers until MoI. (With DG reusing Steve Stone's UK cover.)

You're right, how embarrassing. I think as soon as I saw Youll's attempt at Deadhouse Gates, I simply erased the man from my mind. Thank god they never used it. Still, the artist did confirm it was supposed to be Whiskeyjack... whichever artist it might have been 

This post has been edited by caladanbrood: 15 December 2009 - 11:09 PM

[Cobbles]

George Awesome, on 14 December 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

The fourth cover down on SE's site? No way is that Whiskeyjack.

I mean maybe it was an attempt, but ...

From the first few pages: Whiskeyjack has gray eyes - that guy has blue (I think - zoom in). Whiskeyjack has a "scarred" face, burns on his left jaw, and a dark gray shoulder cloak with a silver brooch.

Cover Guy looks like a Calvin Klein model, and no way is he past 35. Gotta be Paran.

</dorking out>

I agree. I never ever considered the guy to be WJ. WJ doesn't even play that big a role, so why portrait him? I've always figured it would be Ganeos Paran and his sword Chance (never mind the armor). The one thing I wondered is the city, is that supposed to be Pale or Darujhistan? The red made me think it should be Pale burning, but Paran came too late for that. Darujhistan never actually burned. There was the commotion with Raest and the demon, but it never went all that far. There's definitely a moon, but Moon's Spawn was over both cities, so it doesn't help.

At one point I considered for a moment that it might be Rake, since the sword is at his back. But of course the description is totally off. The coloring would be wrong (white hair, black skin), Rake doesn't ride a horse, nor does the blade emit black smoke. So, unless the artist screwed up royally, it's not Rake.

I agree that guy looks too contemporary (like a Calvin Klein model).


(To be clear, I have the US mass market paperback with the dude on a horse about to draw his sword which is strapped to the back. It's all kept in red. Awww, shucks, I just noticed I got deprived of a hot chick in plate bustier. Actually, when I look at that, could it be Toc the younger+Lorn, where only Toc survived the transatlantic trip?)

This post has been edited by Cobbles: 18 December 2009 - 09:39 PM

[George Awesome]

Cobbles, on 18 December 2009 - 09:35 PM, said:

George Awesome, on 14 December 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

The fourth cover down on SE's site? No way is that Whiskeyjack.

I mean maybe it was an attempt, but ...

From the first few pages: Whiskeyjack has gray eyes - that guy has blue (I think - zoom in). Whiskeyjack has a "scarred" face, burns on his left jaw, and a dark gray shoulder cloak with a silver brooch.

Cover Guy looks like a Calvin Klein model, and no way is he past 35. Gotta be Paran.

</dorking out>

I agree. I never ever considered the guy to be WJ. WJ doesn't even play that big a role, so why portrait him? I've always figured it would be Ganeos Paran and his sword Chance (never mind the armor). The one thing I wondered is the city, is that supposed to be Pale or Darujhistan? The red made me think it should be Pale burning, but Paran came too late for that. Darujhistan never actually burned. There was the commotion with Raest and the demon, but it never went all that far. There's definitely a moon, but Moon's Spawn was over both cities, so it doesn't help.

At one point I considered for a moment that it might be Rake, since the sword is at his back. But of course the description is totally off. The coloring would be wrong (white hair, black skin), Rake doesn't ride a horse, nor does the blade emit black smoke. So, unless the artist screwed up royally, it's not Rake.

I agree that guy looks too contemporary (like a Calvin Klein model).


(To be clear, I have the US mass market paperback with the dude on a horse about to draw his sword which is strapped to the back. It's all kept in red. Awww, shucks, I just noticed I got deprived of a hot chick in plate bustier. Actually, when I look at that, could it be Toc the younger+Lorn, where only Toc survived the transatlantic trip?)

We may be overthinking this:

"Hey, Fantasy Artist, gimme a horse guy with a sword by friday."

"Will do."

(Seriously, though - so not WJ.)

[Cobbles]

George Awesome, on 18 December 2009 - 10:15 PM, said:

We may be overthinking this:

"Hey, Fantasy Artist, gimme a horse guy with a sword by friday."

"Will do."

(Seriously, though - so not WJ.)

Probably. I've never had the taste for what I call traditional fantasy art. Most is pretty shitty. In that sense the GotM cover isn't all that bad. I've really come to dislike those overly dramatic, though seemingly static poses which have dominated fantasy art for too long. Here's a great, random example of pretty trashy fantasy art (hope the artist doesn't read the board). At least with the GotM cover, the pose doesn't look static. I still don't like how the guy looks almost straight at the 'camera'. The chick (which is not on my cover) is worse though, and it's good she was left off in later editions. I actually like the next cover, DG. Memories of Ice on the other hand ... better not to say much on the Malazan board.

This post has been edited by Cobbles: 18 December 2009 - 10:49 PM

[Letherii fanboy:P]

Cobbles, on 18 December 2009 - 10:40 PM, said:

George Awesome, on 18 December 2009 - 10:15 PM, said:

We may be overthinking this:

"Hey, Fantasy Artist, gimme a horse guy with a sword by friday."

"Will do."

(Seriously, though - so not WJ.)

Probably. I've never had the taste for what I call traditional fantasy art. Most is pretty shitty. In that sense the GotM cover isn't all that bad. I've really come to dislike those overly dramatic, though seemingly static poses which have dominated fantasy art for too long. Here's a great, random example of pretty trashy fantasy art (hope the artist doesn't read the board). At least with the GotM cover, the pose doesn't look static. I still don't like how the guy looks almost straight at the 'camera'. The chick (which is not on my cover) is worse though, and it's good she was left off in later editions. I actually like the next cover, DG. Memories of Ice on the other hand ... better not to say much on the Malazan board.

well you are right, that kinda art is no good... tough i hate all art, but i can live with it if the insides are great

[George Awesome]

Cobbles, on 18 December 2009 - 10:40 PM, said:

George Awesome, on 18 December 2009 - 10:15 PM, said:

We may be overthinking this:

"Hey, Fantasy Artist, gimme a horse guy with a sword by friday."

"Will do."

(Seriously, though - so not WJ.)

Probably. I've never had the taste for what I call traditional fantasy art. Most is pretty shitty. In that sense the GotM cover isn't all that bad. I've really come to dislike those overly dramatic, though seemingly static poses which have dominated fantasy art for too long. Here's a great, random example of pretty trashy fantasy art (hope the artist doesn't read the board). At least with the GotM cover, the pose doesn't look static. I still don't like how the guy looks almost straight at the 'camera'. The chick (which is not on my cover) is worse though, and it's good she was left off in later editions. I actually like the next cover, DG. Memories of Ice on the other hand ... better not to say much on the Malazan board.

I thought the technique/skill was pretty good, I just doubt the artist used much reference from the book.

I wonder how many of those pulpy paperbacks Frazetta read?

ETA: yes, that example shuts my brain right down. Nice pink rocks.

This post has been edited by George Awesome: 18 December 2009 - 11:46 PM

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

George Awesome, on 18 December 2009 - 10:15 PM, said:

We may be overthinking this:

"Hey, Fantasy Artist, gimme a horse guy with a sword by friday."

"Will do."

(Seriously, though - so not WJ.)

We have a winner. Paran's face, WJ's armor, Rake's sword. It's no one. Generic fantasy dude.