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Monatomic material Who's heard of it, and where can I get me some?

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Posted 10 November 2009 - 11:08 PM

Or buy some and see if it gives you superpowers. 'Byss, you're back in the game!
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:15 PM

View Postcaladanbrood, on 10 November 2009 - 11:08 PM, said:

Or buy some and see if it gives you superpowers. 'Byss, you're back in the game!



Thank god, because the spider-in-the-microwave thing was totally not working out and i was moving up the chain to marmosets...

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 04:38 PM

View PostAbyss, on 12 November 2009 - 04:15 PM, said:

Abyss, wasn't looking fwd to being bitten by a radioactive marmoset...

It might have worked, you never know.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 05:34 PM

You have no grasp of the difficulty involved in jamming an entire marmoset into a microwave.
I considered sedating it, but didn't want to risk obtaining the abilities and proportionate strength of a sleeping marmoset.

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 07:58 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 10 November 2009 - 09:43 PM, said:

i guess one way to find out if this was a scam or not would be to buy the stuff and send to it to a lab for testing using all the procedures described in the hudson story, unfortunately it cost him thousands and thousands of dollars to do all that which most people don't generally have.

also, another link, with other links to articles that people have written. to show CF that i am not the only lunatic who thinks that there could be something here. cuz i aint trolling.
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its cool. Wasn't trying to be mean, just wondering about the trolling cause I didn't want to go all out on an honest answer if you were joking.

Anyways, thanks for finding the other article and I did check out the "scientific explanation" section on that page. It is a bit more forthcoming with the sources of the claims about monatomic materials. I'll ignore the first two sections of the page. The first is a regurgitation of every other page on the subject and the second is pretty wacky and concerns ingestion of white powder by egyptians. No references = no proof = I don't believe a word of it. Without a checkable fact in the paragraph, they might as well be saying that the stuff was given to them by aliens.

The "scientific evidence" section of the website latches onto a single dated out-of-context reference in scientific american concerning superconductivity in highly-pressurized nitrogen, and uses it to lend validity to claims about monatomic gold. It then goes on to talk about transition metals in general for awhile, although none of the information about transition metals does a thing to lend credibility to the claims about monatomic elements. Then it abruptly switches to a third non-credible reference by David Wheeler...who is only known in association with monatomic elements...and finishes by making claims about regenerative properties and talking about a patent that is (after searching the UK patent office) in a "ceased" status after having been in place a whopping 4 years. If this process were really as valuable as the claims, you can bet he would have kept the patent longer than that.

Afterward the article continues to repeat the same handful of "facts" and terminates saying "the work continues" by scientists who all wish to remain anonymous about their highly proprietary processes.

Although its mentioned in many places on the web....so are alien abductions and the hollow-earth theory. The subject truly isn't mentioned in a single credible source.

I'm afraid this is yet another Q-ray bracelet (ducks) and is only successful at two things. Inducing the placebo effect and taking peoples' money.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 09:37 PM

but the Q-ray helps people! they feel better! more energized! athletes use it to... oh forget it.

i can see there won't be any changes of heart. but still it's nice to imagine they might discover anti-grav or the secret to interstellar travel in our lifetimes
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:19 PM

It's also nice to imagine making out with seven naked supermodels all at once, but I wouldn't bet on it happening. ;)
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:35 PM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 12 November 2009 - 09:37 PM, said:

but the Q-ray helps people! they feel better! more energized! athletes use it to... oh forget it.

i can see there won't be any changes of heart. but still it's nice to imagine they might discover anti-grav or the secret to interstellar travel in our lifetimes



Well if you want that kind of thing you should look into the Cyborg Project 1.0 and 2.0, very awesome stuff.
Or a proposed theoretical propulsion system called the Alcubierre drive.
Or that magnetic black hole they created here.
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Posted 12 November 2009 - 10:38 PM

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Posted 12 November 2009 - 11:01 PM

It can travel dimensions? Abyss, maybe it will turn you into the Flash. Or at least give you enough abilities to build a cosmic treadmill...

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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:30 AM

View PostDarkwatch, on 12 November 2009 - 10:35 PM, said:

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 12 November 2009 - 09:37 PM, said:

but the Q-ray helps people! they feel better! more energized! athletes use it to... oh forget it.

i can see there won't be any changes of heart. but still it's nice to imagine they might discover anti-grav or the secret to interstellar travel in our lifetimes



Well if you want that kind of thing you should look into the Cyborg Project 1.0 and 2.0, very awesome stuff.
Or a proposed theoretical propulsion system called the Alcubierre drive.
Or that magnetic black hole they created here.

first link i clicked on for that project cyborg gave me the impression that it could be explained as electrical telekinesis. which is pretty cool. i mean, we could finally know, once and for all, just when our female counterparts were pissed at us! maybe even why! although the guvment could just use it to spy on us... sneaky feds
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 01:54 AM

View PostSinisdar Toste, on 09 November 2009 - 11:52 PM, said:

SO... i was recently referred by a friend of mine to a video that she said discussed the space-time altering characteristics of this stuff called monatomic material that can be distilled from gold. basically if you break gold down into it's purest form, it becomes non-metallic and contains elements of all the "noble" metals, such as platinum, iridium and osmium. this stuff, which appears as a white powder, fluctuates in weight, travels between dimensions and can be ingested to produce instant positive effects. it sounds like real out of this world and unbelievable stuff that no one would ever take seriously. but watch this video and you'll see how the speaker references some of the preeminent scientific institutions in the world and how they are studying this material and finding all kinds of batshit crazy properties. places like NASA, and Cornell University and the Institute of Advanced Studies in Austin, tx.
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its a very long video, 1h20m, but very engrossing and well worth a view i think.

has anyone else heard about this? from clues in the video i think the lecture was given in 2003, so people have known about for a good while. thoughts? objections? pledges to convert all wedding rings and wives jewelry into wonder powder?


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As a chemist I will tell you right now that what you have here is one par alchemy to one part laughable charlatan.

The properties mentioned:
white powder: grinding metals actually makes darker powders than the bulk material
fluctuating weight: conservation of matter/energy engage!
dimensional travel: PLEASE
ingested: Heavy metal poisoning waiting to happen.

The lecturer calls it a "orbitally rearranged monatomic substance"
he also says that it's a "unique form of silica" which is silicon dioxide.
"The prized valuable metals are actually constructed of atoms that aren't metal."
"the only part that is metallic are the gluons that hold the atoms together" WE'RE DONE HERE.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 12:49 PM

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Thank god. I was hoping somebody who knew about chemistry would put the nail in this coffin.
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Posted 13 November 2009 - 02:54 PM

View PostAdjutant Stormy, on 13 November 2009 - 01:54 AM, said:

ingested: Heavy metal poisoning waiting to happen.


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Posted 13 November 2009 - 05:49 PM

that is pretty fuckin epic tiste
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