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#1141 User is offline   Gamelon 

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:28 PM

cheers omtose

#1142 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:35 PM

Holy shit, that was crazy! I wouldn't have thought Kas scum, and am still not sure how to wrap my head around that reveal. Why would it benefit scum for Kas to get an inno lynched? I mean, you would have to know we would go after you next. That just doesn't make sense. I do have a very out there thought though. The Greta chick and the Russian we lovers, and someone else started your and Meanas' relationship, so is it possible that the someone else is the Russian? Just a thought. Kas, can you identify this other party?

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:37 PM

very good initiative - but please everyone, post comments on the stories in the game thread ONLY.
First one taking the game to the story thread is going to be in trouble of the 'mess-with-the-mod-and-get-proper-shafted' kind.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:41 PM

Well it could be a very good move by a scum player, he just thinking that town has lost two, he comes out quite early with a reveal and it turns out to be wrong then we hesitate due to it being too early in the game to go for one for one sacrificing as town still outnumbers the scum.

What do others think?

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:42 PM

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The man with the Browning left the house, gun hidden under his darkblue coveralls. He had time before the police arrived - they weresloppy here, but he wanted to be back in his hideout as soon aspossible.

Who do we know that has a hideout? I remember someone finding a safehouse, but I can't remember who. I might have to check the scenes so helpfully posted by Omtose.

Kas and Game, why are you two so sure about the veracity of each others' info? I don't see any evidence for such a level of trust. I mean, sure, I trust that Game is who he says he is for example, but both of you seem oddly sure of each others' innocence. To my mind, anyway.

Also, night actions are resolved instantly, and as Tulas was killed 8 minutes after Meanas' lynch, the killer was someone who was online at the lynch. Now, that doesn't get us anywhere, I admit, as we often have 5+ people viewing and only a few posting, but if someone comes in 5 or 6 hours down the track, it's less likely that they were the one who committed the deed. Again, not very useful, but still.

I'm gonna go read the scenes Omtose posted now, and see if I can spot any more correlations. Oh, and the red-head/cotton-blouse blonde scene? I suspect that's a severed lover connection.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:48 PM

There were 2 safe houses i think. The woman in a suit made one while lowering the level requirements. Also the guy with the radio settled down into a shack i think.
what are other peoples take on the woman with the suit btw as she seems to have been in a few deals and such andshe created the fortress from a mobile base in a van. (unsure if this is the same van the sniper stored his gun in)

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:53 PM

View PostOmtose, on 25 September 2009 - 02:48 PM, said:

There were 2 safe houses i think. The woman in a suit made one while lowering the level requirements. Also the guy with the radio settled down into a shack i think.
what are other peoples take on the woman with the suit btw as she seems to have been in a few deals and such andshe created the fortress from a mobile base in a van. (unsure if this is the same van the sniper stored his gun in)


oh, thats a good catch Omtose, I hadn't even considered putting those 2 together.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:54 PM

It has been my experience that having actions performed upon me that i have been informed of when i appear in scenes and i doubt that is unique to me. As i have done nothing to hide my character (you can tell from the stories my role is not one of killing) it stands to reason that those i target know of my attention. it is not only the results of actions i perform that can give me info after all. I recommend everyone studies not the opening scene, but the winning conditions and scoring conditions of all four teams. coupled with the scenes i think i have placed faction wise at least half of the players successfully.

this is not to say that i have CIed those players, merely that i beleive i can relate them to characters and countries. This is a town scum game first though, and i for one intend to play it that way. For example, we know the british can have nearly three lovers(required for points), and with only the scenes you could pick out at least one prolific british player quite easily from that. therefore the majority of the lover connections at this point are likely to be from british agents. l;ikewise we know the americans are gearing up for an operation. i am unsure what that means, but it is obvious there are a lot of them and they must work together to achieve something. the french have healers and finders. the russians have bp's, and one definite killer type (though he seems rather hapless). and also they are the only team where we know for sure that two players began with knowledge of one another.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:57 PM

View PostOmtose, on 25 September 2009 - 02:48 PM, said:

There were 2 safe houses i think. The woman in a suit made one while lowering the level requirements. Also the guy with the radio settled down into a shack i think.
what are other peoples take on the woman with the suit btw as she seems to have been in a few deals and such andshe created the fortress from a mobile base in a van. (unsure if this is the same van the sniper stored his gun in)


that is a good catch. perhaps some form of healer then or able to provide bp's to players, that kind of thing, maybe in exchange for information. i know from the one lover connection i have made that the player who initiated it got a weak find when they did so, but they also told me that though they started with good abilities, they lost powers as we levelled up.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:59 PM

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The man in the dark blue coveralls approached the van he had put in theshadow of an alley. He swung the door open, lifted the shotgun seat,and stored the Dragunov rifle.
he started as someone tapped him on the shoulder, and was greeted bythe sight of a Greta Garbo in her prime look alike, complete with amazy black veil covering her eyes.

"I so like dangerous men," she said. "and if you're done with your mischief for the night, would you mind giving me a lift?"
Beneath the mask, the man smiled.

This was the same guy who killed Tulas. Note the dark blue coveralls mentioned in this and my above post. Our Greta Garbo doppelganger - Meanas - had a lover connection with this guy. If I have my mechanics right, the other person you were in contact with, Kaschan, is Tulas' killer then? The guy in the dark blue coveralls. Because you do say someone else initiated the contact.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:00 PM

View PostGalain, on 25 September 2009 - 02:35 PM, said:

Holy shit, that was crazy! I wouldn't have thought Kas scum, and am still not sure how to wrap my head around that reveal. Why would it benefit scum for Kas to get an inno lynched? I mean, you would have to know we would go after you next. That just doesn't make sense. I do have a very out there thought though. The Greta chick and the Russian we lovers, and someone else started your and Meanas' relationship, so is it possible that the someone else is the Russian? Just a thought. Kas, can you identify this other party?



Ok I can clear this up a little. My partner was Tulas Shorn. An ability was used so Tulas Shorn, Meanas and I could all talk.

Tulas if you couldn't guess was the owner of the Oldsmobile car. They had an ability to Heal (Take a drive) with it with someone else in the car i.e Heal themselves and someone else.

One thing to note, and I'm pretty sure this isn't a coincedence. Tulas and I called Meanas scum. Tulas is killed at the start of the night before the got a chance to use their Heal, by the person that Meanas formed some sort of connection with on Day 1 (Sniper with Blue Overalls).




Gamelon and I are sure of each other because I recognised myself in a scene with Gamelon and him vice versa.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:01 PM

View PostAnomandaris, on 25 September 2009 - 02:59 PM, said:

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The man in the dark blue coveralls approached the van he had put in theshadow of an alley. He swung the door open, lifted the shotgun seat,and stored the Dragunov rifle.
he started as someone tapped him on the shoulder, and was greeted bythe sight of a Greta Garbo in her prime look alike, complete with amazy black veil covering her eyes.

"I so like dangerous men," she said. "and if you're done with your mischief for the night, would you mind giving me a lift?"
Beneath the mask, the man smiled.

This was the same guy who killed Tulas. Note the dark blue coveralls mentioned in this and my above post. Our Greta Garbo doppelganger - Meanas - had a lover connection with this guy. If I have my mechanics right, the other person you were in contact with, Kaschan, is Tulas' killer then? The guy in the dark blue coveralls. Because you do say someone else initiated the contact.


I just said this. About 7 post back.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:03 PM

and i said it before that ;)

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:04 PM

Well, that train was mighty fishy. Now you people are saying Meanas might have had info on the Russian sniper, who is most likely scum (he seems to have at least an attempted kill every night).

Oh wait, but you guys didn't even give Meanas a chance to defend himself. That was intelligent. It smells like a set up to me. I couldn't think of why scum would play a gambit like that so early in the game, but now I've got an idea: Meanas did have info on people who were scum. Kaschan figured that out and, with the help of some other well-placed scum votes, got him speed-lynched.

Somebody lied in their private communication with you and that makes them scum? That is the flimsiest reason I can think of, considering how it's stated in the OP you shouldn't trust those you are communicating with, yet that is the reason that made you sure, Kaschan? I don't buy it, especially since you divulged the reason only after Meanas was lynched.

Now, I've gotta go for most of the day, and I know that saying that is a signal for scum to speed-lynch me, but just know that I don't think Kaschan should be trusted at all.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:05 PM

View PostKaschan, on 25 September 2009 - 03:00 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on 25 September 2009 - 02:35 PM, said:

Holy shit, that was crazy! I wouldn't have thought Kas scum, and am still not sure how to wrap my head around that reveal. Why would it benefit scum for Kas to get an inno lynched? I mean, you would have to know we would go after you next. That just doesn't make sense. I do have a very out there thought though. The Greta chick and the Russian we lovers, and someone else started your and Meanas' relationship, so is it possible that the someone else is the Russian? Just a thought. Kas, can you identify this other party?



Ok I can clear this up a little. My partner was Tulas Shorn. An ability was used so Tulas Shorn, Meanas and I could all talk.

Tulas if you couldn't guess was the owner of the Oldsmobile car. They had an ability to Heal (Take a drive) with it with someone else in the car i.e Heal themselves and someone else.

One thing to note, and I'm pretty sure this isn't a coincedence. Tulas and I called Meanas scum. Tulas is killed at the start of the night before the got a chance to use their Heal, by the person that Meanas formed some sort of connection with on Day 1 (Sniper with Blue Overalls).


Gamelon and I are sure of each other because I recognised myself in a scene with Gamelon and him vice versa.



So Tulas CFed French, and Meanas CFed French. Im going to go out ona limb and say you are French, what a clusterf*ck. Ok, can you confirmor deny that it was one of you or Tulas that used the ability that letyou all talk? Damn this is complicated.

Edit: placed my question in the quote

This post has been edited by Galain: 25 September 2009 - 03:06 PM


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:07 PM

i think he is implying that meanas initited a lover relationship with tulas.

@kas - do not confirm your nationality on thread

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:08 PM

Short mod-intervention:

Galain, answering your question could bring a modkill about as per the rules - there is only so far a player can talk about his own abilities and we're close to the edge IF the ability isn't Tulas's.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:09 PM

*cough* slow *cough* ;)

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:11 PM

View PostGamelon, on 25 September 2009 - 03:09 PM, said:

*cough* slow *cough* :D

you go and manage a messenger, a main thread, SH and a second modalt ;)

Anyway, to clarify the above: I do not endorse a player being pushed into modkilling himself.
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:11 PM

i wonder how active the game will be as weekend takes over, i for one am heading very soon.

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