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Posted 14 September 2009 - 10:52 PM

I have a question about the scene with Simtal near the end of the book.
What happened to her? I didn't really understand. Did she die?
"The red ink had been watered down. He painted wash on the map, covering areas now held by the Malazan Empire. Fully one half of the map...the north half...was red. Baruk jumped, his right forearm jerking out and knocking over the inkwell. The red ink poured across his map. Cursing, Baruk sat back. His eyes widened as he watched the spreading stain over Darujhistan and continue south to Catlin..."
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Posted 14 September 2009 - 11:31 PM

Murillio slept with her, told her that her world was about to fall apart (as Rallick had just killed her lover) and left her with a knife. One can assume she killed herself, even though it was not explicitly described..
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Posted 15 September 2009 - 09:24 AM

View PostHinter, on 14 September 2009 - 11:31 PM, said:

Murillio slept with her, told her that her world was about to fall apart (as Rallick had just killed her lover) and left her with a knife. One can assume she killed herself, even though it was not explicitly described..


As Murillio walks out her room he thinks something about him being the last person to see her alive. She definitely kills herself.
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Posted 16 September 2009 - 10:18 PM

Yeah. The thing is, with Erikson, is that he never gives you a straight answer to anything. That's what makes him a good author.
"The red ink had been watered down. He painted wash on the map, covering areas now held by the Malazan Empire. Fully one half of the map...the north half...was red. Baruk jumped, his right forearm jerking out and knocking over the inkwell. The red ink poured across his map. Cursing, Baruk sat back. His eyes widened as he watched the spreading stain over Darujhistan and continue south to Catlin..."
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 12:16 AM

This is yet another thing that you must keep reading the books to find out the conclusive answer too... There is one I will tell you that... Were it is you must find out for yourself...
How many fucking people do I have to hammer in order to get that across.
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 10:15 PM

View PostKruppe likes wine, on 16 September 2009 - 10:18 PM, said:

Yeah. The thing is, with Erikson, is that he never gives you a straight answer to anything. That's what makes him a good author.

I wouldn't say that SE never gives a straight answer. It's just that he's not going to hold the reader's hand, or waste print feeding them info they can figure out for themselves. In this instance, it's not explicitly stated that Simtal ends up killing herself, but it is made pretty danged obvious:

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He unsheathed his ornamental dagger and tossed it on the bed. Without another word or gesture, he left the room, knowing with certainty that he would have been the last man to see her alive.

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