[Venerus]

Sooooo another Quick Ben thread! Yippee! Okay go:

It's mentioned in DoD that QB has been different "since the walls of Black Coral" or something to that effect. Thinking back, that's the first time we see him wander though KG. He drags Paran along, who finds the experience horrifying. If you recall, KG was usable at that time (resistant to the CG's poison) because Korlat had the remaining Andii spending their mage powers to keep it clean.

Anyway, I always assumed that when QB says "KG! I can USE this!" to Paran, he means that it's clean. But now... now I think that's the moment he revealed the Magus of House Dark role. I believe he *was* the magus before, tbh, since he reaaalllly doesn't want Anomander to "investigate" him in that famous scene with Rake, Kallor, Silverfox, Brood and WJ when Rake first arrives. And Rake continues to be interested in him afterwards, which we see in that fun story that WJ tells about finding QB in Raraku.

But I digress. I believe when QB enters the purified KG and says "I can USE this" he doesn't only mean "I can use this right now" -- I think he means "I can take a role in this house and be a member of the Dark family." I know, it's a bit farfetched, but remember all those threads about "where did QB get all those RG superpowers?" and there's a laundry list of theories. I think DoD implies that the change in his "power level" or whatever started or happened in that trip through KG into Black Coral.


On to more crazy theories: the white light that hit QB at the end was FL returning. MD returns, which means FL gets to return. Although I don't think there's any way we've seen the last of QB by a long shot, the "beam of light from the heavens" didn't... really make a whole lot of sense. If it was a KCNR weapon, why not use it on everyone? Why only use it once (as far as we know?) We didn't see the whole battle, of course, maybe they did... but still... within the writing it's a unique event. Or I'm just crazy. Anyway, would FL seek out a high member of the House for any specific reason? Was he beaming QB up to have a chat? I can't help feeling that QB's "death" and his newly revealed position in the Deck should be related somehow.

Thoughts?

[beru]

possible and reasond for it might work...
and QB uses KG in GoTM to shift hairlocks spirit into the puppet

[HoosierDaddy]

The white beam could have been a Skykeep weapon that had been leveled at Ampelas Uprooted like the others, until Quick showed himself to be a major irritant with his acorn bombs.

[Traveller]

Yeah, the 'bolt of lightening' came out of a turbulent, roiling sky above the Nahruk - I assumed it was from one of the skykeeps. It was only directed at QB because he was the only one single-handedly taking out entire legions of nahruk, in quick (haha) succession.

I like the KG theory though, there is definitely something big going on with QB. And Father Light has to make an appearance soon, hopefully as impressive as MD.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 10 September 2009 - 08:11 PM

[Illuyankas]

Quick is Gallan. You heard it here first.

[presumingpete]

Illuyankas, on 10 September 2009 - 10:41 PM, said:

Quick is Gallan. You heard it here first.

nah, he's nefaris bredd

[Illuyankas]

Who says he's not both? Plenty of space in there after all.

In fact, he's also Icarium's mother.

[Venerus]

Illuyankas, on 10 September 2009 - 10:55 PM, said:

Who says he's not both? Plenty of space in there after all.

In fact, he's also Icarium's mother.

That's impossible.... because *I'M* Icarium's mother.

[Sindriss]

Incredible how quickly Illy can pervert an otherwise straightforward thread.

[Veilside]

Rake's interested in QB because he's got 12 souls, not because he somehow took on the role of Magus of HHD later on. Anyway, just because he's acting as the Magus of HHD, does not mean he is the Magus of HHD, that's not how readings work.


I thought the big bolt of lightning was just a concentrated attack from all the Nahruk on the ground, like the other lightning they unleashed, but more focused.

[Cougar]

I'm not opposed to a crazy theory or three, but it seems to me that by far the most logical explnation for QB's ahem, err...demise, was a mundane Nahruk weapon.

I always assumed that as a racial warren Galain was only accessible to those with Andii blood in them (or at the least Tiste blood) the fact that QB says I can use this simply illustrates the point that he, unlike a normal human can use Kurald Galain. In order to do this I thought he must have a soul in him that is at least part Andii, hardly out of the ordinary really, given what we know about the Shake etc.

Can anyone think of a non-Andii using KG?

[Veilside]

I don't recall Heuk being Andii, of course, he did have some help.

[MTS]

Heuk didn't use Kurald Galain. He used an Elder blood ritual to summon Draconus. No warrens involved.

[Veilside]

Except that the Crimson Guard mages comment on Kurald Galain being unveiled.

I don't have the book to hand, but I also seem to recall him using KG before Draconus appears.

[Cougar]

Well you don't have to be an Andii to recognise KG.

[Veilside]

That's true, but it still remains a fact that KG was unveiled, whether it was by Draconus (who was supposedly trapped in Dragnipur at the time) or whether it was Heuk, with help from Draconus isn't clear.

[beru]

as i said QB uses KG in GotM
and it the spell sounds almost like denul...

[Cougar]

QB using KG does not count as a human using it as we've no idea of QB's actual nature WRT souls and physiology.

[Hellian's Keg Lid]

Not to be a buttpain, but didnt Beak use everything? Not starting a Beak/QB comparison, but there's another human who is toting it around.

[beru]

he used all of them but i think they only mean all normal warrens