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WoT-TGS Chapter 1 available for free! ebook prologue will be out September 17

#1 User is offline   Terez 

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 11:29 PM

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I think that BS's style is clearly discernible in this, but it's a mix. Some think it's an awkward mix, and it sort of is, but it wasn't all that jarring to me.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 02:33 AM

No, not jarring at all... and I actually like that you can tell it isn't RJ. Maybe that'll make it easy to spot when we come across a whole section RJ finished before he moved on.

I thought he stretched the "wind rose and moved around a lot" thing in the beginning, but otherwise Sanderson seems to be in his element.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 04:48 AM

it was ok, i have read all the books and it has been a while since i read the last one, wtf happened to rand's hand i can't fucking remember at all? did he cut himself to deep while being emo and lose the hand?
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 05:39 AM

Semirhage blew it off.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 03:22 PM

A reply on the actual site sums it up for me...

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I think the main thing, the most important thing, is that on readingthis chapter, I was able to get right back into the story. The newvoice wasn't so different as to be distracting.


I believe I will be very happy with the end product.
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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:08 PM

I am reminded of the prophecy. There can be no health in us, nor any good thing grow, for the land is one with the Dragon Reborn, and he one with the land. Soul of fire, heart of stone, in pride he conquers, forcing the proud to yield. He calls upon the mountains to kneel, and the seas to give way, and the very skies to bow. Pray that the heart of stone remembers tears, and the soul of fire, love. I think this cadsune nonsene migt be resolved at last.

Not sure what to mak about that sword.

Also it seems that rand has backslid a little regarding the women thing. I have no doubt it would have been in character to torture a female forsaken. He would hae felt guilt but he would have done it. I hope we get some of RJs notes or letters or somthing so we can make ourown choices about how true sandersn is beeing.
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 02:38 AM

Most people think that Moiraine's return will be the catalyst for the 'laughter and tears'. Also, remember that the laughter and tears pact was made with Sorilea, and she is also hanging out in Arad Doman.

Speaking of Moiraine, a big part of why Rand is so fucked up in the head is that she 'died' because he could not bring himself to kill Lanfear. So I don't think it would be in character for him to allow Semirhage to be tortured.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 10:14 AM

Prologue is out, though it appears to only be available to US customers (lame).

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 02:18 PM

[left]I thought what we read was the prologue?

okay so Ijust finished re-readng WoT. Okay so I left out a few chapter here nd there buI read most of it. I am reminded of the series awesomeness, its potential and why its decline was so upsetting. I also think I can more clearly see where the series went wrong for me anyway.

For me Rand is the hero. He is the story and he is the purpose of the story. I dislike the way the story drifts from him in later books. I dislike how his accomplishmets become less and less with eh book.Or at least see tht way.

1- Saves shienar. Finds Horn. Kills Aginor. Defeats Ishamel
2- Defeats Ishameal, Defeats Seanchan, leads heroes, Recovers Horn, Shadow killer
3- Sneaks into the stone, retrieves Calandor, Defeats Ishmael,
4- Becomes chief of chiefs, wields calandor like a god, chains asmodeon, Outsmarts Lanfear
5- Kills Rahvin, Founds blacktower
6- Gets captured
7-Kills samael, takes Illian. Might as well have taken place of sreen
8-Pyrric Victory over Seanchan
9-Cleanses the source
10-?
11- Loses a hand

Know I realise that in the grand scheme of things founding the black tower is probably one the most important things he has ever done. But he is barely involved, it gets almost no coverage.
His cleansing the source is THE m important but its one chapter. Its logical what he did but there is almost no foreshdowing. Almost no one will believe he was responsible.

False dragons have had better support and more followers than Rand! Guire amaslan ruled more nations, bigger nations and he was opposed fully by the white tower. The last battle is over the horizon and everyone hates him. Nobles refuse to follow him. They plot to kill him. Barring the Aiel ad bashere its as if no one is loyal. Ther is the legion but he ignores it!

On the other hand Perrin and Mat have to beat back their followers with a stick. I realise Rand is insane in many ways. Lews therin being the least of it. Did RJ ever comment if Rands temper, lack of emotion and no killing women thing is in part cause by the taint? But the man does some amazing things but veryone still hates him.

Also I recall why I hate Aes Sedai. Their arrongance and double standards are phenomenal. Mat rescues thee AS yet they say he owes them a debt for their channelingn his fights. Everyone obeys cadsuane and she expects it, demands it, but thinks its bad that rand should want the same? They scheme for advantage in everythng.Even the salidar AS were pomising crowns to poeple behinds Rands back as they sought to bargain with him. I could go on. If the Ashaman must learn something I pray to god so must the AS before he last book

Anyway I think I look forwar to these last books. I hope to see some of my expectations met.
-Rand to teach Ogier, tuathan and Aiel the song
-Do something about machin shin
-Shara to play some part
-Aes sedai and Ashaman to embrace the forgotten sign
-I always thought he would help the brotherless but I think on my reread they are basically all dead
-A maiden to realize he has the names of everyone of them that has died memorized
-Spears of the dragon thing to reach some kind of conclusion
-A wedding
-I imagine learning elayne is pregnant will be what drives him over the edge
-See his father for gods sake

I hope the books ends with a few chapter in the fourth ageand beyond. See a male aes sedeai or a female Ashaman who hapens to be seanchan riding train or something like that. See the effects of what happened nt the books in the future.
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Posted 17 September 2009 - 10:48 PM

View PostCause, on 17 September 2009 - 02:18 PM, said:

[left]I thought what we read was the prologue?

No, that was chapter 1. WoT prologues are typically long and multi-pov; chapters 1 usually start with the wind (like that one did).

Here are the prologue points of view, if anyone is interested:

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 01:47 AM

I actually found it quite amusing that TGS and ADWD have something in common:

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 02:14 AM

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 07:34 AM

what... wait...

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 11:57 PM

View PostSkywalker, on 18 September 2009 - 07:34 AM, said:

what... wait...

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Must resist urge... to spend... 3 dollars...


Damn, that would be worth 10$ easy!!! Why doesn't he get his hand back..balefire the bitch that blew it off :)
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Posted 19 September 2009 - 01:04 AM

View PostMecnunK, on 18 September 2009 - 11:57 PM, said:

Why doesn't he get his hand back..balefire the bitch that blew it off :)

Too late, alas.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 06:23 AM

Not trying to spam here, but it occurred to me to post the link to the list of Rand's points of view in the series. Also, I wanted to say earlier that I don't really agree with the idea that, just because Rand is the main character, that a majority of points of view should be Rand's, especially considering a good deal of the mystery in the series is bound up in what goes on in Rand's head.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 06:34 AM

Broken link, Terez.
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Posted 19 September 2009 - 06:50 AM

Should be fixed. I used the editor, so I'm not sure (no code in my edit), but I guess this is one of those boards where you have to erase the http:// bit before you paste. Either I type the codes out more often than I thought, or that's a feature of the new version.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:47 PM

Chapter 2 is up now as well, audiobook only.

http://www.tor.com/i...w=blog&id=56278

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