[Atrahal]

Fener, on Jul 21 2009, 06:35 AM, said:

I think the last scum is Korbas FYI.

edit: And I think he has the ambi power and took out Sil last night with Karat.

its possible. but from my understanding he has to have 2 kill abilities or a kill and a vig ability to do that. I have ambi and vigs from alkend but cant use multiple vigs in one night. of course, its completely possible hed have 2 kills as 2 scum died on night 1 after all, but I think it more likely the killer has kills and a vig or a couple, which better suits the number of kills each night so far

[Anthras]

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 10:36 PM, said:

Anthras, on Jul 21 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

@atrahal nice to see that someone else thought that Gamelon might have been scum. I sent a PM to PS stating that effect earlier. So I can't see any blame on Vigging him.

good to hear! Im worried about both Sil and Karat dying, though. could be paranoia but mentally im thinking "2 killers oh noes!"

NO I have been expounding that I thought that there were a lot more then 4 killers all game. With guards and healers and what not I figured that some of them had to have been getting blocked. Atrahal how many people have you killed in the game just Game?

[Atrahal]

oh god, Fener, you just brought up an idea... what if say Eloth were a killer and had gained the ambidexter ability via kills!

[Atrahal]

Anthras, on Jul 21 2009, 06:39 AM, said:

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 10:36 PM, said:

Anthras, on Jul 21 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

@atrahal nice to see that someone else thought that Gamelon might have been scum. I sent a PM to PS stating that effect earlier. So I can't see any blame on Vigging him.

good to hear! Im worried about both Sil and Karat dying, though. could be paranoia but mentally im thinking "2 killers oh noes!"

NO I have been expounding that I thought that there were a lot more then 4 killers all game. With guards and healers and what not I figured that some of them had to have been getting blocked. Atrahal how many people have you killed in the game just Game?

just Game

[Anthras]

Atrahal, on Jul 20 2009, 10:40 PM, said:

oh god, Fener, you just brought up an idea... what if say Eloth were a killer and had gained the ambidexter ability via kills!

Really the same can be said for you. I feel cornered in right now. WIFOM is going crazy.

[Path-Shaper]

Anthras, on Jul 21 2009, 12:41 AM, said:

WIFOM is going crazy.

I'm a bad man, but:

:snigger: :snigger:

That is about the comment btw, not about the state of the game.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 July 2009 - 10:42 PM

[Fener]

It's interesting, Atrahl.

How did everyone get their powers? What did you START with and what did you gain and when did you gain it?

[Atrahal]

Fener, on Jul 21 2009, 06:42 AM, said:

It's interesting, Atrahl.

How did everyone get their powers? What did you START with and what did you gain and when did you gain it?

Ive said already but Ill reiterate all at once - I started Ambidexter and nothing happened until the night Alkend died and I got 3 vigs from him. used 1 vig last night on Gam.

[Path-Shaper]

guys, just FYI:

Commandment 3, there shall be no quoting or paraphrasing of P-S's PMs or the timing of them, is still in effect.

trying to lure people into breaking it is also frowned upon.

[Atrahal]

I need to go start the barbecue, im afraid. Ill try to glance back here as often as I can with my hands full of raw beef...

[Fener]

Sorry PS just trying to find out who's lying by seeing the time when things happened in the game NOT the timing of PMs.

[Fener]

Anthras it's a big gamble for him to reveal everything he did esp when he was the last person to reveal. It PIs him IMO.

Your power is kind of weird to me. I think Eloth is PI and I'm inno so that puts Korbas as likely scum (since he was on to switch the kill to Karat and Ano was missing all throughout that period) with you as a second option for trying a fake reveal.

[Anthras]

Fener, on Jul 20 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

It's interesting, Atrahl.

How did everyone get their powers? What did you START with and what did you gain and when did you gain it?

I started with mine. I don't know as it is so much a power more of a twisted BP as I can't take any action at night.

[Path-Shaper]

Fener, on Jul 21 2009, 12:45 AM, said:

Sorry PS just trying to find out who's lying by seeing the time when things happened in the game NOT the timing of PMs.

Unfortunately, the sending of PMs can be related to things happening in the game.
It's a fine line. I allow the paraphrasing of PMs for the purposes of reveals, it's hard to reveal otherwise - but I'm going to be strict about any other use of P-S PMs - Malaese made a very good point in SH about it and how we're potentially already on a sliding scale.

[Anthras]

Fener, on Jul 20 2009, 10:48 PM, said:

Anthras it's a big gamble for him to reveal everything he did esp when he was the last person to reveal. It PIs him IMO.

Your power is kind of weird to me. I think Eloth is PI and I'm inno so that puts Korbas as likely scum (since he was on to switch the kill to Karat and Ano was missing all throughout that period) with you as a second option for trying a fake reveal.

I like how you are kindly taking yourself out of the mix. I want to hear more from Korbas and Ano. Ano could have been lurking and jumped in to see then switched targets to kara.

[Korbas]

Fener, on Jul 20 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

Anthras, can you clarify? If you are attacked, you retalliate by killing your attackers while also dying in the process? This could explain what happened last night. And it only works for attacks?

Korbas, it's too late in this game to just hope people get it right, IMO. Karat helped us get the right lynch yesterday. We don't have much other than quote blocks and reveals to figure out who is the scum.

Atrahal are you saying that you can STEAL abilities in addition to use 2 abilities?

Hmm, I was about to write a post how I didn't agree with all this revealing business, but it looks like whatever healers/guards/vigs we might have were smart enough to claim something else, and Fener's dance brought forth Atrahal's complete bullshit reveal, so I'm happy now.

I will try to explain myself further in a later post, but Atrahal really fumbled the ball on that one. He interpreted Eloth's reveal completely incorrectly, claimed it as his own, and now he's fumbling to recover, which might have had a chance of working if he hadn't claimed the same role name as Eloth.

I'll wait for Eloth to come back to make sure it's not mistaken semantics, but I am now 99% sure that Atrahal is scum.

[Fener]

Atrahal who do you want to vig tonight?

edit: interesting xpost, can't wait

edit2: @ Anthras of course I'm going to look at targets other than myself. Just as I expect you to do the same for yourself.

edit3: Korbas has a lot of my same thinking from earlier, FYI, but now I'm not that sure. It's one of you two, I'm almost sure of that.

This post has been edited by Fener: 20 July 2009 - 10:53 PM

[Anthras]

Korbas, on Jul 20 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

Fener, on Jul 20 2009, 10:10 PM, said:

Anthras, can you clarify? If you are attacked, you retalliate by killing your attackers while also dying in the process? This could explain what happened last night. And it only works for attacks?

Korbas, it's too late in this game to just hope people get it right, IMO. Karat helped us get the right lynch yesterday. We don't have much other than quote blocks and reveals to figure out who is the scum.

Atrahal are you saying that you can STEAL abilities in addition to use 2 abilities?

Hmm, I was about to write a post how I didn't agree with all this revealing business, but it looks like whatever healers/guards/vigs we might have were smart enough to claim something else, and Fener's dance brought forth Atrahal's complete bullshit reveal, so I'm happy now.

I will try to explain myself further in a later post, but Atrahal really fumbled the ball on that one. He interpreted Eloth's reveal completely incorrectly, claimed it as his own, and now he's fumbling to recover, which might have had a chance of working if he hadn't claimed the same role name as Eloth.

I'll wait for Eloth to come back to make sure it's not mistaken semantics, but I am now 99% sure that Atrahal is scum.

Glad you see it to.

[Anthras]

Fener, on Jul 20 2009, 10:51 PM, said:

Atrahal who do you want to vig tonight?

edit: interesting xpost, can't wait

edit2: @ Anthras of course I'm going to look at targets other than myself. Just as I expect you to do the same for yourself.

edit3: Korbas has a lot of my same thinking from earlier, FYI, but now I'm not that sure. It's one of you two, I'm almost sure of that.

I haven't narrowed down my suspect list other then Eloth.

[Fener]

Atrahal said he killed Game. Nobody has fessed up to killing Sil. Ergo, the killer has two kills (Sil and Karat last night).

I think it's you, Korbas and your reluctance to realize Atrahal is likely telling the truth and instead you are calling his entire reveal BS is a big problem.