[Kessobahn]

Well having looked through the last few pages, im not entirely sure i see why people are voting Barghast, other than the last few who are just jumping on a train. It appears to be an even more random choice than most day one trains as its basically saying he followed someone, lets lynch him, will have to go back further now to check the other cases but im not that inclined to vote for Barghast right now unless my vote becomes absolutely necessary in order to get a lynch.

[Eloth]

goddamn it, people.
been such s shitstorm that i dont' even know whats going on.
but
vote Silanah
I don't like him, dont trust him

[Ampelas]

Caught up there, I think I prefer Karatallid over Baghast at this point. I'm not completely clear on the case on Barghast it seems all pretty normal stuff to me and nothing I would call particularly suspicious.

I don't like the way Karatallid has argued for the Barghast lynch when I find it to be a pretty weak case. Despite Karatallid saying he doesn't vote just to get a lynch unless he had to. But he seems really keen on getting a lynch on Barghast once a few people have mentioned his name and would vote him

So,

Vote Karatallid

Not sure how much longer I will be around, its looking like the numbers will be there for Barghast so I'll leave it on Karatallid I guess.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 18 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Karatallid: ( Okaros, Ampelas )
7 votes for Barghast: ( Sorrit, Karatallid, Silanah, Korbas, Fener, Emurlahn, Korlat )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Barghast, Karosis )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kessobahn

[Kessobahn]

Ok right now after that last post Eloth is definitely ringing alarm bells. He so far has 3 posts , 2 are rubbish 1 saying hes here 1 saying its all spam. Then he just comes on Votes Silanah becuase he doesnt like him, no real reason given at all, i mean at least other people are making up cases no matter how thin but to just come on and drop a random vote with absolutely no discussion about 2 hours from time out strikes me as dodgy.
Vote Eloth

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 5 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Karatallid: ( Okaros, Ampelas )
7 votes for Barghast: ( Sorrit, Karatallid, Silanah, Korbas, Fener, Korlat, Emurlahn )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Barghast, Karosis )
1 vote for Eloth: ( Kessobahn )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Galayn Lord, Gamelon

[Fener]

Kesso, you realize you did the same thing, right?

Let's face it, it's virtually established fact that scum don't know each other, don't have helpers, and certainly don't want to stick out. There's zero reason scum would defend another player by placing distracting votes.

I'd look at people who tag along rather than make strange singleton votes as your likely scum. That's the main case on Barghat, btw.

[Kessobahn]

No i didnt do the same thing. Have you actually read Eloths post , there is absolutely no justification there at all

[Korlat]

These last couple of votes were kind of weird. I'm not one of the people who pushed the case against Barg, but with two hours to go and the next closest case needing eight votes it was the obvious choice. I kind of get Amp's point, but Eloth especially was just random. In a game with symps it would be considered very scummy, now it's just odd.

[Fener]

Kessobahn, on Jul 16 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

No i didnt do the same thing. Have you actually read Eloths post , there is absolutely no justification there at all

Since you are not very smart, I will clarify for you.

Kessobahn, on Jul 16 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

Ok right now after that last post Eloth is definitely ringing alarm bells. He so far has 3 posts , 2 are rubbish 1 saying hes here 1 saying its all spam. Then he just comes on Votes Silanah becuase he doesnt like him, no real reason given at all, i mean at least other people are making up cases no matter how thin but to just come on and drop a random vote with absolutely no discussion about 2 hours from time out strikes me as dodgy.
Vote Eloth

Kessobahn, on Jul 16 2009, 10:02 AM, said:

Ok right now after that last post Eloth is definitely ringing alarm bells. He so far has 3 posts , 2 are rubbish 1 saying hes here 1 saying its all spam. Then he just comes on Votes Silanah becuase he doesnt like him, no real reason given at all, i mean at least other people are making up cases no matter how thin but to just come on and drop a random vote with absolutely no discussion about 2 hours from time out strikes me as dodgy.
Vote Eloth

So you called him out for randomly showing up and making a weak case and voting and then you did the same thing to him.

[Kessobahn]

I gave a reason for my vote, are you actually saying you dont find it strange he comes on and the only thing he says is i dont like silanah and drops a vote. At the moment there are no strong cases around and Eloths random vote is probably the most dodgy thing thats been done so far so i thought it warranted a vote, hardly coming on and dropping a random vote as ive already said il be around nearer the lynch and will switch if its absolutely necessary to get a lynch but dont want to stop any other discussion already.

[Fener]

I am saying, and this is the last time I will repeat myself:

There are NO symps. Every SCUM player is playing for his or herself. Anything you view as suspicious will simply be odd inno play. Trying to say someone is acting odd for a random vote is one of the worst arguments you can make in this set up. ZERO scum are going to be making odd votes at this point.

It is completely irrelevant what I think about Eloth's post history or vote. Simple fact is, scum aren't going to make that kind of move with 2 hours to go. There are no symps to defend masters or scum to defend partners. Scum would, on the other hand, try to point that out as scummy. Oh snap, did I find a scum..?

Nah, I'm just fuckin' with ya...

[Eloth]

so looks like i got on kessobahns wit there.
good.
My vote was no less valid than any other. true. i didnt spell out justification, but if you look at silanah he seems to be trying to dominate thw show. i dont like that. generally, peopl who try and direct lynch trains are either wrong or scum
also, if someone places a vote on a person with no reasoningm first people affiliated with said person are more likely to comment
so, i placed my vote.
getting under peoples skin is part of my job as inno.
gmeoy, kesso.
seems a little too forceful a defense of silanah.
so, let's keep pushing and see where this goes.
got to go to the cinma, so ill see you all in a few hours
play nice childred

[Path-Shaper]

1 hour 32 minutes left.

[Eloth]

no symps doesnt mean no partners/temp alliances

[Fener]

Now, both of you idiots shut up and vote Barghast like good townies.

[Kessobahn]

Well i guess im going to have to agree to disagree with you in that Fener. Yes there are no Symps but there are still possible reasons for random votes from the scum and letting people get away with such thin justifications for voting isnt good. But now Elothss come back and added some decent justification so im more satisfied
remove Vote

[Fener]

Please don't call me that. Call me That-Alt-Which-Shall-Not-Be-Named.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 1 hour and 24 minutes remaining

19 Players still alive: Alkend, Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Barghast, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Karatallid, Karosis, Kessobahn, Korbas, Korlat, Okaros, Silanah, Sorrit

10 votes to lynch, 10 votes to go to night

2 votes for Karatallid: ( Okaros, Ampelas )
7 votes for Barghast: ( Sorrit, Karatallid, Silanah, Korbas, Fener, Korlat, Emurlahn )
2 votes for Emurlahn: ( Barghast, Karosis )
1 vote for Silanah: ( Eloth )

Players not voted: Alkend, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Kessobahn

[Eloth]

back appears cinema was cancelled.