[Karatallid]

Ok well no kills tonight, its a bit late now so i dont have time to get into a big debate, but i will suggest that people take time as we dont really want to take out Eloth if GB do only have 2 people left (i doubt it).
and now i will go to sleep.

[Galain]

Eloth, on Jul 9 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

Galain, on Jul 10 2009, 04:12 AM, said:

So, interesting night result. I'm not gonna be on any more tonight, think I'll leave a vote on

Eloth

We all know why

cause you are looking for an easy lynch on a team that CAN'T have 4 people, and could have 2 people.

Chanced to refresh just before shutting down the browser, and saw this. I'm not voting you because your team "could have 2 Oh horror!" I'm voting you because you're a defined quantity. You are GB. I believe the GKs to be a threat, yes, but I know who you are, and I know that there's just as much possibility you could have 3 as there is you could have 2. Hell, there's still even a chance you'd have 4, but that's pushing it. So ya, raise a stink, but the long and short is: I know what you are, so I want you dead.

[Eloth]

Galain, on Jul 10 2009, 04:25 AM, said:

Eloth, on Jul 9 2009, 10:14 PM, said:

Galain, on Jul 10 2009, 04:12 AM, said:

So, interesting night result. I'm not gonna be on any more tonight, think I'll leave a vote on

Eloth

We all know why

cause you are looking for an easy lynch on a team that CAN'T have 4 people, and could have 2 people.

Chanced to refresh just before shutting down the browser, and saw this. I'm not voting you because your team "could have 2 Oh horror!" I'm voting you because you're a defined quantity. You are GB. I believe the GKs to be a threat, yes, but I know who you are, and I know that there's just as much possibility you could have 3 as there is you could have 2. Hell, there's still even a chance you'd have 4, but that's pushing it. So ya, raise a stink, but the long and short is: I know what you are, so I want you dead.

If we have 2 you lose tomorrow. Not sure how that hasn't sunk in. You are taking a 66% chance we didn't start with 5 and add a player from the spiders to lose the game. The capa and the kings have only lost TWO players TOTAL each! We've lost three. The foreigners have lost only 1 person to actual gameplay and the other to a modkill for inactivity and you are after me? How insane is that?!? I know you will lurk again from my response, but I'm appealing to the faction which isn't yours...follow him and you take a good shot at losing the game by voting another GB off.

[Silanah]

Here a bit.

Eloth, dunno how you can argue you didn't start with 5. Let me show you why you are wrong.

Path-Shaper, on Jul 4 2009, 05:41 AM, said:

The following abilities MAY be present and will resolve in the following order:
Spy > Steal > Guard > Heal > Find > Wound > Kill

Coroner Finder WILL NOT reveal the dead player's role name.

The following named roles are present:

Anjais Barsavi
Bug
Calo Sanza
Capa Barsavi
Cheryn Berangias
Galdo Sanza
Jean Tannen
Locke Lamora
Nazca Barsavi
Pachero Barsavi
Raiza Berangias
Roland
The Falconer
The Gray King
The Spider

Do you see what the problem with your logic is? The moderator clearly laid out abilities that MAY be in the game, clearly indicated what the CF WILL NOT say, and then said, "The following named roles are present." He didn't say they MAY be present.

There was a very specific purpose to the set-up and it is quite clear your faction started with 5.

[Silanah]

Now, on the flip side, I would not be surprised if you are right about equal distribution of the Spider faction's remainder. It seems like it was a convenient time for the mods to divvy up the faction with both big roles gone so if there were 3 symps left, 1 a piece is almost hitting the reset button on the game.

edit: That of course means that it's 3-3-3 today.

This post has been edited by Silanah: 10 July 2009 - 02:50 AM

[Silanah]

For a triple post, I will, however, say that it's probably best to approach today as if either the Bas or GK have 4.

[Tellan]

But Sil, there aren't enough roles in there for everyone, so there has to be uncertainty somewhere. Either there is RI roles not in that list or something the mods aren't telling us (or people with the same role). It's still extremely likely the Spiders began with 5, but those gaps in our knowledge are keeping me paranoid!

[Silanah]

Right, which is why I'm not in favor of lynching Eloth today.

[Tellan]

It's like nuking the whales, you gotta lynch something!

But right now I'm too tired to think about who in a logical manor so I do believe I will now go to bed. See you guys in 8-12 hours, depending on how busy I am at work tomorrow morning. G'night!

[Eloth]

Well Galain and Silanah I'm sure aren't on my team, Tellan most likely isn't. Since Silanah is being amiable today.

Vote Galain

[Silanah]

I dunno, just no need to rush it Tellan. I'm not really sure what team Galain is on and it's 50/50 he's helping my leader. I will re-read him a little later, but I need to handle some bizniz for a bit.

edit: and double xpost. I'll be back in ~1 hour

This post has been edited by Silanah: 10 July 2009 - 03:10 AM

[Eloth]

Silanah, on Jul 10 2009, 05:10 AM, said:

I dunno, just no need to rush it Tellan. I'm not really sure what team Galain is on and it's 50/50 he's helping my leader. I will re-read him a little later, but I need to handle some bizniz for a bit.

edit: and double xpost. I'll be back in ~1 hour

You are a good target though, since you just admitted your leader is still alive with half the people gone.

[Silanah]

You are clever, but if I go up and modify Karat's list with how everyone died and the order they died:

HP-Spi lynch day 1 -- Roland
Lio-GK vig day 2 -- Falconer
Kasch-Spi lynch day 2 --the Spider
Meanas-Bars nk night 2 -- ???
D'riss- GK modkill day 3 -- ???
Kor-GB lynch day 3 -- Galdo
Gam-Bars nk night 3 -- Anjais
Mockra-GB nk night 3 -- Jean/Bug
Emu-GB lynch day 4 -- Locke

Pretty hard to imagine the modkill being a leader, wouldn't you say? And Meanas getting offed in 2 nights doesn't seem very leader-like, does it? Note how Kaschan went balls-to-the-wall when he got his vig stripped.

So nice try, but both GK and Bas leaders are still around. FACT.

[Silanah]

Barghast, on Jul 9 2009, 09:17 PM, said:

Oh and Meanas getting killed on night two IS leader-like.

Considering that if someone hit him night one, and he didn't die, surely they'd try again the next night?

I'd agree except for how Kaschan acted. I suspect Meanas would have busted off a fake reveal to try and get someone lynched.

[Silanah]

Also, not sure the GB are irrelevant. They have no natural enemy and are probably sitting at 3 players.

[Silanah]

Sorry, I mean their "hunters" the Spider faction are defeated.