[Fener]

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 01:09 PM, said:

Then perhaps someone else could be suggested as an alternative? He is the best option atm, Fener.

@Korv, it is and it isn't the same as a scum game. One could actually look at a merc game as several teams of scum, but with less interaction and knowledge of each other than in a traditional scum game. At the beginning, it's fairly easy to get the same effect of lynch trains, as you have to remember that around three quarters of the players are against each person, and even more don't know who is who. So you can still get the train dynamic, as you only need a majority to lynch. Of course, you also have the fear of accidentally lynching your own team members...but that doesn't count for a lot - because if you hold back, you can get linked to people, and these things often turn into a one-team hunt for a few days.

Well, I've already brought you up, though I obviously failed to notice your original comment, short though it was.I also mentioned Korlat, who's been workin very hard to say a lot without saying anythign directly tied to the game. To my mind he's likely a power role trying to hide in plain sight. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some atempts at signaling in his description either

[Korvalain]

Ok, perhaps I wasn't clear. I'm on board with how merc works, but that still doesn't answer my question as to why the 4th vote would have the magical properties it allegedly has in this type of game.

The 4th vote could still be placed because people want a lynch and the odds are against the person being part of their own faction. But so what? In a scum game, that 4th vote could point to scum, but the suggestion here is that anyone could/would be the 4th vote since people hope for the best. So I don't see how it could yield any information in this type of game.

edited to add: (except to suggest that it isn't a symp piling on to his own leader)

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 05 June 2009 - 11:17 AM

[Emurlahn]

Korlat, eh? Can't say I'd noticed that alt much. Hrm.

Well, I'm interested in the Rashan thing on HP (though Rashan came out of nowhere, like wtf?). And Silanah could still be the obsessed with his own role guy.

[Emurlahn]

@Korv, well, I was thinking more of it's magical properties of four votes = you WILL get lynched. And it does still give us info, or could. We haven't really done a merc game since that was brought up, which is why I'm interested in it.

[Korvalain]

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 07:16 AM, said:

Korlat, eh? Can't say I'd noticed that alt much. Hrm.

Despite the fact he has the most posts of anyone?

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 07:18 AM, said:

@Korv, well, I was thinking more of it's magical properties of four votes = you WILL get lynched. And it does still give us info, or could. We haven't really done a merc game since that was brought up, which is why I'm interested in it.

Fair 'nuff.

Edit: to add 2nd quote

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 05 June 2009 - 11:21 AM

[Hood's Path]

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 03:13 AM, said:

@HP - I'm just frustrated with idiots who can't seem to read the thread. Considering I said at least one post before that one that I had commented, your further post was just annoying.

You do realize that people say things sometimes to see how they react more than anything else right?

[Rashan]

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 03:58 AM, said:

Ok...caught up.
Thanks for all the book info...you guys recon these books are any good?
worth a read?


Anyways...i also think that this obsetion that silanah has with the king of hell is rather interesting.
So...
Remove vote
Vote silanah

lets see what comes out of the woodwork

Throws out second vote upon arrival

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:17 AM, said:

looked to me like d'riss was just trying to help with pointing out what seemed to be vote placing error.
Then again now that you bring it up his lack of any comment with regards to the silanah case is noteworthy...

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:18 AM, said:

sorry meant Ehmur not D'riss

I put both in here, so theres no confusion. D'riss brought up the point of why Emur didn't comment on the vote, but instead placement. Not sure why, but Sil immediately agrees with Driss.

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:30 AM, said:

The most interesting thing noted so far today and all you have to say is "shouldnt your vote be on a new line?"
You got to realise that its at least noteworthy that you didnt comment at all.

Good job of saying the same thing that was said above.

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 07:10 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 02:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 4 2009, 10:28 PM, said:

Hehe.

I am a tad suspicious of mr "omg-hell-king-all-the-time-Silanah", but hey it IS day one...

THIS is my initial reaction BEFORE Fener even voted. I was the second person to comment on the thing aside from the person who started it, ffs.

woaah there nelly!

i just said its noteworthy...not compelling evidence or anything, dont get your nickers in a bunch.

Easy Emur, this post says to me, I don't want to fight, its not worth me dying over.

My interpretation, but in his 10 posts he has agreed with the Sil case and voted, and then he immediately went to the D'riss point and started adding too it, while trying to be non-confrontational.

I hate case building, now I'll wait for everyone to say, weak case, and then I'll switch to Sil. But Hp is too agreeable and easily moved.

[Emurlahn]

Strange that he's the highest poster thing. Think that's what Rashan meant by hiding in plain sight?

[Emurlahn]

@HP and you do realise that people can know that, anticipate it, and so plant a specific response to see YOUR reaction, right? WFIOM ftw. XD

Besides, capitals = emphasis. Exclamations = angry. Caps + exclamations = I hate you and will hunt you down for life.

Eh, Rashan, while I agree that those agreeable posts are fairly strange, I still think the obsession case on Silanah holds more weight.

Vote Silanah

And that'll be me for the night. I usually get in trouble for saying this (because sometimes I miss it anyway), but I should be back on two hours before deadline, or thereabouts.

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 03:13 AM, said:

I'm here. I have read up and I gotta say, I have no idea whats going on. Granted I suck at Merc games, but still. Having said that I want to call BS on the whole forth vote thing. In the last game, Bent was second on three trains, and an inno was the fourth to vote. However, I won't be the forth vote as I think it more likely Hood's Path is the better candidate for cult leader. Typically that person wants to be seen as a sheep, at least until they increase their numbers. I'll get a couple of posts together to show what I mean. And this is in no way supposed to be symping Sil, if I need to change, I certainly will. I just think HP fits the profile slightly better.

One point of note on Sil before I go dig up quotes: It was a really weak response about why Sil was mentioning Cult (leader of hell) so much that gave me pause, but the sheer sheepness (see what I did there) of HP is just incredibly obvious. I think, anyway.

Vote Hood's Path

huh?

I want to be seen as sheep?....how do you get that?

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 03:22 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 03:58 AM, said:

Ok...caught up.
Thanks for all the book info...you guys recon these books are any good?
worth a read?


Anyways...i also think that this obsetion that silanah has with the king of hell is rather interesting.
So...
Remove vote
Vote silanah

lets see what comes out of the woodwork

Throws out second vote upon arrival

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:17 AM, said:

looked to me like d'riss was just trying to help with pointing out what seemed to be vote placing error.
Then again now that you bring it up his lack of any comment with regards to the silanah case is noteworthy...

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:18 AM, said:

sorry meant Ehmur not D'riss

I put both in here, so theres no confusion. D'riss brought up the point of why Emur didn't comment on the vote, but instead placement. Not sure why, but Sil immediately agrees with Driss.

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 06:30 AM, said:

The most interesting thing noted so far today and all you have to say is "shouldnt your vote be on a new line?"
You got to realise that its at least noteworthy that you didnt comment at all.

Good job of saying the same thing that was said above.

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 07:10 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 02:31 AM, said:

Emurlahn, on Jun 4 2009, 10:28 PM, said:

Hehe.

I am a tad suspicious of mr "omg-hell-king-all-the-time-Silanah", but hey it IS day one...

THIS is my initial reaction BEFORE Fener even voted. I was the second person to comment on the thing aside from the person who started it, ffs.

woaah there nelly!

i just said its noteworthy...not compelling evidence or anything, dont get your nickers in a bunch.

Easy Emur, this post says to me, I don't want to fight, its not worth me dying over.

My interpretation, but in his 10 posts he has agreed with the Sil case and voted, and then he immediately went to the D'riss point and started adding too it, while trying to be non-confrontational.

I hate case building, now I'll wait for everyone to say, weak case, and then I'll switch to Sil. But Hp is too agreeable and easily moved.

I really dont see what the point of your "Case" is....

[Rashan]

HP - you are agreeable and non-confrontational, you follow easily and haven't really done anything of note, except agree with the Sil case, agree with D'riss' point, and then after pressuring Emur, you are backing way off, which looks like you don't want to be the only one continuing that thought. Hence the non-confrontational point, I made. Looks like cult to me.

[Rashan]

Somebody in spoilers should PM Bachelain the Evil, the password to spoilers so that he can see whats really going on. Also, Fener, you are visible.

[Fener]

Emurlahn, on Jun 5 2009, 01:23 PM, said:

Strange that he's the highest poster thing. Think that's what Rashan meant by hiding in plain sight?

Fener, but yes

[Fener]

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

Somebody in spoilers should PM Bachelain the Evil, the password to spoilers so that he can see whats really going on. Also, Fener, you are visible.

it's the curse of using this system i'm afraid

[Rashan]

Fener, on Jun 5 2009, 07:38 AM, said:

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 01:36 PM, said:

Somebody in spoilers should PM Bachelain the Evil, the password to spoilers so that he can see whats really going on. Also, Fener, you are visible.

it's the curse of using this system i'm afraid

I see, well, at least if you're lying (not saying you are), you're really really good at consistency.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 4 minutes remaining

16 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kessobahn, Korlat, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

9 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night

4 votes for Silanah: ( Hood's Path, Fener, Korvalain, Emurlahn )
1 vote for Fener: ( Kessobahn )

Players not voted: D'riss, Gamelon, Korlat, Liosan, Meanas, Rashan, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes


I have pmed Bauchelain

[Hood's Path]

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 03:33 AM, said:

HP - you are agreeable and non-confrontational, you follow easily and haven't really done anything of note, except agree with the Sil case, agree with D'riss' point, and then after pressuring Emur, you are backing way off, which looks like you don't want to be the only one continuing that thought. Hence the non-confrontational point, I made. Looks like cult to me.

hey dumbass....maybe im agreeable because i dont give a flying fuck if silanah is lynched or not.
THIS IS A MERC GAME...you cant apply normal scum finding tactics to this type of game...

we all will follow easliy enough to get a person we think is not in our team lynched....our arms are all pretty rubbery.
Ontop of that i think he could be cult because of his obsession with the king of hell.

If i was cult i would not give a fuck about any lynch and hide in the shadows and just recruit every night.
You just labeled my play as cult play? where do you get your "cult" profiling from....you making it up as you go allong and you know it.

[Hood's Path]

Rahsan!....I finger your boss or something for you to get so far up my ass for fuckall?
I must have...

knuckle deep i reckon

[Rashan]

Hood's Path, on Jun 5 2009, 07:44 AM, said:

Rashan, on Jun 5 2009, 03:33 AM, said:

HP - you are agreeable and non-confrontational, you follow easily and haven't really done anything of note, except agree with the Sil case, agree with D'riss' point, and then after pressuring Emur, you are backing way off, which looks like you don't want to be the only one continuing that thought. Hence the non-confrontational point, I made. Looks like cult to me.

hey dumbass....maybe im agreeable because i dont give a flying fuck if silanah is lynched or not.
THIS IS A MERC GAME...you cant apply normal scum finding tactics to this type of game...

we all will follow easliy enough to get a person we think is not in our team lynched....our arms are all pretty rubbery.
Ontop of that i think he could be cult because of his obsession with the king of hell.

If i was cult i would not give a fuck about any lynch and hide in the shadows and just recruit every night.
You just labeled my play as cult play? where do you get your "cult" profiling from....you making it up as you go allong and you know it.

Easy, killer. No need to get violent. Just bringing out a possibility, and want to point out that in the above quote, you conflict with yourself, you say

"I don't give a flying fuck if Sil is lynched or not"
and then
"we all will follow easily enough to get a person we think is not on our team lynched"

Yeah, you think Sil is cult so you wouldn't think he's not on your team, yet you went even farther and agreed with D'riss and went after Emur as well, following tat line of reasoning, you must not be afraid to get Emur lynched either, right?

Also, nervous breakdowns and anger don't make for a very good defense, especially against one tiny little vote.