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Mafia 46.5: The Deepgate Game Factions? What Factions?

#1361 User is offline   Path-Shaper 

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:10 PM

It is Day 9. 23 hours and 59 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night


Players not voted: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#1362 User is offline   Telas 

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:17 PM

View PostKorlat, on Jun 4 2009, 03:18 PM, said:

Alice a human, she's a super-mechanic-type who can engineer stuff, but is secretly in cahoots with Menoa

Trench is an ancester of Dill, which means he actually has(had) the same soul as Dill has now, and he tries to take over Dill to warn them about Hell. There's time travel, by the way, it gets weird.

From Korlat's post on day 1, for posterity.

Looks like Meanas wasn't cult, but most likely a power role. Emur could have been cult, but I am also happy about the plain fact that *someone* died in the night.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:25 PM

Well, lets not beat around the bush.

Vote Ruse

Im pretty sure he is cult. call it gut, call it my POS case, call it lazy, but I think its time to get him lynched.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 08:31 PM

It is Day 9. 23 hours and 38 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

1 vote for Ruse: ( Rashan )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#1365 User is offline   Ruse 

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 09:38 PM

@Rashan ~ you are like a dog with a bone, and you are the one doing the pushing again. You have admitted there are flaws in your case against me, and even if there weren't and you were right (which you aren't) you think I am a recruit, so how would lynching me harm the recruiter, because WCS he's still out there. Anyway I have a major exam tomorrow, so probably won't be on much, so

Vote Rashan

Yes it's OMGUS, but it's also because I am fed up with you dictating how this game should be played. And it seems more than a little suspicious that Emur (the one who accused you of controlling the game) was the one who got NK.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 10:15 PM

It is Day 9. 21 hours and 54 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

1 vote for Rashan: ( Ruse )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Rashan )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Telas, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#1367 User is offline   Rashan 

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 10:28 PM

View PostRuse, on Jun 15 2009, 05:38 PM, said:

@Rashan ~ you are like a dog with a bone, and you are the one doing the pushing again. You have admitted there are flaws in your case against me, and even if there weren't and you were right (which you aren't) you think I am a recruit, so how would lynching me harm the recruiter, because WCS he's still out there. Anyway I have a major exam tomorrow, so probably won't be on much, so

Vote Rashan

Yes it's OMGUS, but it's also because I am fed up with you dictating how this game should be played. And it seems more than a little suspicious that Emur (the one who accused you of controlling the game) was the one who got NK.


One flaw in my case Ruse, I missed your vote for Fener. But in effect that strengthens my case that you were recruited because you couldn't vote him afterwards. Time to play the hand we are delt, you are the possible recruit and I say that the recruiter is dead. Otherwise it would be game over already. with the recruits and recruiter combined to have a voting block. They haven't or at least its not co-ordinated by a lead recruiter, so I can go out on a limb and say, we get rid of you and Telas, then we can worry about factions.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:35 PM

wow, so, we have a killer after all.

book-wise, Alice is an ambiguos character. She's an engineer working for Menoa, true, which kind of makes her evil. but, she's not really doing it of her free will, which makes it more complicated.

As for meanas... you know, he may have been lying about guarding, he may not have, it's hard to tell.

Trench could be a guard, but bookwise he was a warrior.

dunno.

I'll need to think a bit before voting.

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Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:49 PM

ok, frankly, I really dislike Rashan's "I'm tired so i'm not gonna try or think anymore" attitude.
that's just too good a cover for a scum to use.

vote Rashan

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:00 AM

It is Day 9. 20 hours and 10 minutes remaining

7 Players still alive: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

2 votes for Rashan: ( Ruse, Liosan )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Rashan )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Telas, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:00 AM

View PostLiosan, on Jun 15 2009, 07:49 PM, said:

ok, frankly, I really dislike Rashan's "I'm tired so i'm not gonna try or think anymore" attitude.
that's just too good a cover for a scum to use.

vote Rashan


You think Im scum? Really? I voted for Game and Fener same as you, in fact I pushed for both of them. ANd I'm scum, weak Lio, very weak. However, I'll gladly take the lynch. It buys my leader an extra day. I would rather lynch Ruse though, as he is the one who is more likely scum, but either way.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:10 AM

no guarantees you weren't recently turned, are there?
besides, your attitude in the Meanas lynch irked me. and now you're doing the same with Ruse.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:19 AM

View PostLiosan, on Jun 15 2009, 08:10 PM, said:

no guarantees you weren't recently turned, are there?
besides, your attitude in the Meanas lynch irked me. and now you're doing the same with Ruse.


Ive been trying for 3 days to get Ruse lynched, guess what, not happened yet. Something in there I think, maybe you were turned? Nah, your a leader, not about to risk hitting your own again, so go for someone who has said you are a leader, and not my own, rather than risk hitting your own team in Ruse, its smart, but your reasons are hollow.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:32 AM

lol
I grow tired of arguing about that delusion of yours.

as for my reasons--they are no hollower than your own for voting Meanas.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:44 AM

Seriously, do we still have to make this game about the cult? I mean, it's day freaking 9. We've gone through 8 freaking nights. If the cult recruiter is still around, he's gotta be so ineffective as to not be any larger a threat than the rest of the factions.

"Oh, no, Telas is telling us to stop looking at the cult! He must be cult! Lynch him!"

I'm tired of looking at this easy-out lynch strategy, too. If one of you says this to me, I'm just gonna reach through my computer and punch you in the face.

THERE ARE NOW MORE NIGHTS THAN THERE ARE PLAYERS. I think it's time to stop acting like this is some scum v. town meat and potatoes game and address the fact that there are MULTIPLE FACTIONS.

I will post again after I have had time to study the thread and pinpoint someone who I think is both powerful and not in my faction.

If you really want to spend two more nights hunting after some phantom cult boogie man, God help us all.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 12:52 AM

Telas, there are seven of us left. Seven. We started out in four factions, meaning it's unlikely a single faction has more than 2 people, 3 tops.

we HAVE to think WCS, and the WCS here would be, that there may be cult. Still

We've yet to have a CF that we can reliably identify as the original recruiter. Emur's the closest we have to that. and D'riss CF lends new credence to Fener and Gamelon's reveals.

This post has been edited by Liosan: 16 June 2009 - 12:53 AM


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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:10 AM

SEVEN and a bored MOD who has to make dinner...


It is Day 9. 19 hours and 1 minute remaining

7 Players still alive: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Liosan, Rashan, Ruse, Telas, Tennes

4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night

2 votes for Rashan: ( Ruse, Liosan )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Rashan )

Players not voted: Hood's Path, Korvalain, Telas, Tennes

Ok so I am going to go and make dinner. I should be able to get on once more before I go to bed. If you lynch then assume the position...

Some one will get on and take care of you...

Yours truly

Vengeance

p.s.

Provisionals are necessary. Once day ends if you don't have your shit in then tough beans....

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 June 2009 - 01:11 AM

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:32 AM

Not sure what the current cases are all about - I don't know anything about the books so can't analyze the Cf's either. I am not sure which of the Ruse-case or the Rashan-case are the best - I still want to lynch Liosan, but there was never much consensus on that matter. It certainly looks like Ruse and Liosan are on the same team - or possibly one of the are fake symping a faction. It certainly could be Ruse, or it could be Liosan. Just looking at it fact wise, the Ruse case is the lesser of two evils. The Rashan case just seems to be about him being bossy, which is kind of funny actually. The Ruse case has been around for a while, almost like there's something more going on here.

There's already two votes on Rashan, lets see what happens if there's two votes on Ruse aswell.

vote Ruse


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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:43 AM

Going after the cult is just plain lazy, though, when there could be so much more shit going on. I mean, wouldn't a faction with 3 left also be a WCS, as by tomorrow they could have the numbers to run the game?

Here's what I think happened:
Point 1- Fener was the original cult leader/recruiter. This is supported by my argument yesterday that recruiting Fener at any point would have just been a silly thing to do. Also, Fener's "reveal," I think, was pretty weak. It didn't have a lot of specific information and he was familiar with the books. I think he could have easily guessed the Heshette would be a faction in the game.
Point 2- When Fener was lynched, his leadership/recruiting power was passed to Gamelon. See my "the/a" article essay. It was a unique role and it must have been passed down. This is further reinforced by the scene when Fener was lynched. Fener had red eyes, he was killed, and then someone else had red eyes. Gamelon could have been recruited or been in league with Fener from the beginning. I tend to think Game's "reveal" was based on truth from the role he had before he was recruited, as it contained a lot more specific information. I dunno whether it was accurate, but he risked more by divulging more. And if he was recruited, all the better for us, as that's one less recruit to worry about.
Point 3- There are tops 3 recruited cult members still out there, but they don't have a leader and likely don't know who each other are, making them just as, if not less threatening than other factions in the game. Also, if the recruiter was a passed-down role, it most likely wasn't as effective, meaning they most likely got less than 3 people recruited before they were both lynched. I mean, if Fener got to chose which of his followers to pass down his powers to, Game would be the last choice. It's a lot of assumptions, but it could mean Game was the only one recruited and there are zero cult left.

My reasoning of events is not air-tight, but I think it's solid enough to gamble on looking at other factions as a far more significant threat to victory.

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Posted 16 June 2009 - 01:45 AM

need I remind you



THERE ARE NO CLUES IN SCENES! :p

This post has been edited by Liosan: 16 June 2009 - 01:46 AM


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