[Gamelon]

D'riss, on May 15 2009, 04:29 AM, said:

You're kidding right? No, I'm not Grief.

So you reveal when you're at um... L-5?

This.



And you say you're going to reveal "for real". Is that just to make sure we don't think you're lying?

[D'riss]

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 08:59 PM, said:

D'riss, on May 15 2009, 04:29 AM, said:

You're kidding right? No, I'm not Grief.

So you reveal when you're at um... L-5?

This.



And you say you're going to reveal "for real". Is that just to make sure we don't think you're lying?

This is my entire point. Like, if you say, "Hey I'm the guard and, oh, it's for realz," should I just believe you? You revealed AT ONE VOTE! With plenty of hours to go until the lynch!

My vote stays. And yes, I read the Ruse/Meanas/Fener bit, Gamelon. It's a lot of mud to sift through but I think the Korv case is too suspicious to not vote at this time.

edit: spelling

This post has been edited by D'riss: 15 May 2009 - 04:25 AM

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 8 hours and 23 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

2 votes for Meanas: ( Ruse, Emurlahn )
1 vote for Korvalain: ( D'riss )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Fener )
1 vote for Fener: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: Gamelon, Liosan, Meanas, Telas, Tennes

Note: you wouldn't bring religion to a football game, please don't bring religion to a mafia game :respekt:

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on May 14 2009, 10:07 PM, said:

Note: you wouldn't bring religion to a football game, please don't bring religion to a mafia game :respekt:

I don't suppose a, "He started it!" would work, would it?

Also, I miss football...

[Gamelon]

Korvalain, on May 15 2009, 04:21 AM, said:

Okay, fuck this. Are you Grief? Cuz if u are, we've done this dance before. But this time, I'm gonna reveal for real. I'm the guard. There you happy? Of course I'm gonna play a little scummy, I don't wanna get night killed. Good luck with that now. Told you pursuing this avenue would be a mistake.

Ok, I went over Korv's posts, but don't have anything to add really, other than to say that this is a terrible overreaction. Especially when you consider that no one had really gotten behind D'riss' case. Liosan even ridiculed it (well, appears to anyways).

""Okay, fuck this." "There you happy?" There was no need to fly off the handle over this. And to reveal at L-5, seriously. There was no good reason to do so if inno. I think you're lying too.

Vote Korvalain

[D'riss]

Gamelon, on May 14 2009, 10:34 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 15 2009, 04:21 AM, said:

Okay, fuck this. Are you Grief? Cuz if u are, we've done this dance before. But this time, I'm gonna reveal for real. I'm the guard. There you happy? Of course I'm gonna play a little scummy, I don't wanna get night killed. Good luck with that now. Told you pursuing this avenue would be a mistake.

Ok, I went over Korv's posts, but don't have anything to add really, other than to say that this is a terrible overreaction. Especially when you consider that no one had really gotten behind D'riss' case. Liosan even ridiculed it (well, appears to anyways).

""Okay, fuck this." "There you happy?" There was no need to fly off the handle over this. And to reveal at L-5, seriously. There was no good reason to do so if inno. I think you're lying too.

Vote Korvalain

I think Lio made fun of my hasty rebuttal because half of it was just a LOL RELIGION argument, tbh.

Gonna sleep here soon and will likely miss any lynch but my vote is cast.

[Silanah]

Emurlahn, on May 15 2009, 12:28 AM, said:

the emu is back! anyone else notic the weird caps in Sils post a while back? could be cause o the phone but maybe its a CODE!!OMG!! ima go bac and find it and quote it here forya


edit here goes:

Silanah, on May 14 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

Look fener... anybody with half a brain can see your case was shit. You yourself say its shit. The OnLY reason anyone is giving you any thought now is because you kept pounding a shit case down peoples throats. And they never liked the taste of it to begin with yet you kept shoving and your friend started helping. What the hell do you expect. But what makes matters worse in your case is now you admit the case was shit. Yet you still condone your 'buddy' meanas using your self admitted rubbish case to ride all the way to the bank. If i, as an inno, make a shit case. And i KNOW its shit. Then i tend to look harder at the people who 'follow' that case. As its usually the scum who don't mind who the hell gets lynched, any old shit case will do...no? Yet you never question your buddy's
Intentions. And its worrisome. Im not the OnLY one who has noticed this. And itS strange you haven't noticed this. If you are inno. Get your head in the game. Or voting you off guilty or not...can only help inno's.

see how he speels only as OnLY and then later its with a capital s? a tad weird, especially if hes using that T9 thing where it guesses the words it wouldnt capitalize randomly

its when i want to cap a whole word, i have to press the cap button for every single letter, sometimes i miss a letter and it doesnt cap it...i dont bother correcting it...takes enough time as it is.

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on May 15 2009, 04:47 AM, said:

Ok, I went back over the Ruse/Meanas/Fener/Sil argument. I had to draw a goddam chart with arrows to keep it straight, but here goes the basic summary:

Ruse goes after Fener's case on Sil (post 709).
Meanas makes a case on Ruse.
Fener brings up Ruse sticking his neck out over Fener's vote on Sil.
Ruse looks at Meanas and puts his vote there.
Then its a back and forth with Sil joining in to pick fun at Meanas for his reply to Ruse.
This starts a back and forth between Meanas and Sil.
#739 is where Meanas accuses Ruse of changing Meanas' claim of who symped who.
Ruse writes a rebuttal and thats when Fener takes the side of Meanas.
Fener than votes Ruse.
Meanas and Sil are still going back and forth.\
Sil gets pissed at Fener and they go back and forth a bit.

Boil it down and you get: Ruse goes after Fener. Meanas goes after Ruse. Fener goes after Ruse for being symped. Ruse votes Meanas. Fener takes Meanas' side in that argument. Fener votes Ruse. Sil is just sort of a sidelight.

So, in the end I sort of see it like Emur mentioned - Meanas and Fener appear to be teaming up on Ruse. However, I don't know what Meanas' post #739 means exactly. I have to go back and look at that original symp claim that Meanas is talking about. Fener votes Ruse for being symped by Sil, but I just get the impression that Fener is still grinding the axe on Sil (finally getting the pissed off reaction from Sil that he apparently loves).

Edit: This post took forever, so I crossposted the reveal and D'riss' response. And capitalization

this is all very nice and all but....what is your point again?

[Silanah]

Gamelon, on May 15 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 15 2009, 04:21 AM, said:

Okay, fuck this. Are you Grief? Cuz if u are, we've done this dance before. But this time, I'm gonna reveal for real. I'm the guard. There you happy? Of course I'm gonna play a little scummy, I don't wanna get night killed. Good luck with that now. Told you pursuing this avenue would be a mistake.

Ok, I went over Korv's posts, but don't have anything to add really, other than to say that this is a terrible overreaction. Especially when you consider that no one had really gotten behind D'riss' case. Liosan even ridiculed it (well, appears to anyways).

""Okay, fuck this." "There you happy?" There was no need to fly off the handle over this. And to reveal at L-5, seriously. There was no good reason to do so if inno. I think you're lying too.

Vote Korvalain

so you just going to lynch a potential guard?....just like that?
You know he should die tonight...you can give the guy a few days ya know...if he is telling the truth he knows at least one CI (for now anyways)

[Silanah]

Its possible korv is telling the truth...some people just ....panic.
I am willing to accept his claim for now....there has been no counter claim.
And he should have guarded someone last night...that person should be PI untill we get BB.

[Silanah]

is there anybody out there?


ive got like an hour before i go to sexpo

[Silanah]

We are going to have to watch Emurlahn and liosan like hawks from tomorrow onwards.
These guys have had it too easy because of the silencing...its like getting a free pass for a few days.
Especially in the beginning, because there is next to no prior info to go on.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 5 hours and 34 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Ruse, Silanah, Telas, Tennes

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night

2 votes for Meanas: ( Ruse, Emurlahn )
2 votes for Korvalain: ( D'riss, Gamelon )
1 vote for Gamelon: ( Silanah )
1 vote for Ruse: ( Fener )
1 vote for Fener: ( Korvalain )

Players not voted: Liosan, Meanas, Telas, Tennes


Please start thinking about those provisionals...

[Silanah]

hmmm....five hours heh?

I dunno too much about this korvalain case...seems a bit off to me.
I will admit to aso thinking that the BB didnt know the UB...its ust one of those things you take for granted.
Ive played in all the benses and i was even UB once and i still bloody forgot...so i cant in good faith condemn korv for doing the same.

I think i will
remove vote

Gamelon has held up to a bit of suspicion nicely no one seems interested in a case based on "guess work"
You want PROOF dammit

I could go for the fener/meanas thing just to be sure...but then my gut tells me that scum would not be so obvious...if anything only one is scum, probably getting played by the other.

D'riss has stopped his play ground bullying style and has now come out all srs buzness like....i like some of his arguemnts but he pushes reall hard and i dont like everything he says.
Definite symp material there pushing people in all directions. But nothing solid...

Telas to me has his moments...sometimes i get the feeling he is scum...other times i whole heartily agree with him...perhaps there is something there.
By trying to please everyone you end up some of the time not pleasing some...hmmm.

I pretty much dont know were to go from here and who to vote for....lovely

[Silanah]

well....thats it for my computer internet time till monday.

laterz....

[Gamelon]

Silanah, on May 15 2009, 08:29 AM, said:

Gamelon, on May 15 2009, 06:34 AM, said:

Korvalain, on May 15 2009, 04:21 AM, said:

Okay, fuck this. Are you Grief? Cuz if u are, we've done this dance before. But this time, I'm gonna reveal for real. I'm the guard. There you happy? Of course I'm gonna play a little scummy, I don't wanna get night killed. Good luck with that now. Told you pursuing this avenue would be a mistake.

Ok, I went over Korv's posts, but don't have anything to add really, other than to say that this is a terrible overreaction. Especially when you consider that no one had really gotten behind D'riss' case. Liosan even ridiculed it (well, appears to anyways).

""Okay, fuck this." "There you happy?" There was no need to fly off the handle over this. And to reveal at L-5, seriously. There was no good reason to do so if inno. I think you're lying too.

Vote Korvalain

so you just going to lynch a potential guard?....just like that?
You know he should die tonight...you can give the guy a few days ya know...if he is telling the truth he knows at least one CI (for now anyways)

Sil

I am perfectly happy to remove my vote if it becomes clearer that Korv is telling the truth. When this issue came up, only D'riss, myself and Korv were online, (or at least the only ones posting) so obviously there's been no counter-claim. The reason I'm actually voting is in fact because of the "panic" as you call it. The case by D'riss is all well and good, but the wild defense/reveal of Korv is what makes the whole thing more suspicious. Why would a true roled inno have such cause to panic with just one fledgling case laid on them? You say we can give him a few days. To see if he dies tonight or not? Or to give BB another kill before he's lynched?

Why are you so dead set on pegging me? You take my vote and quote it, and lay an accusation of "why are you lynching a guard" squarely at my feet. Nobodies lynching anybody, it should be clear that I've laid a vote on what I feel is a bogus claim. If the claim isn't bogus, I will remove the vote. It seems that in your mind you've clearly stamped guilty on my forehead with WIFOM reasoning, and you're going to keep pushing regardless of anything else.

And the point of my other post about Meanas/Ruse/you/Fener? I said I was going to break down that entire thing because it was confusing. So I kept my promise and broke it down and posted what I saw. It was relatively inconclusive beyond comfirming what Emur said was possible (connection between Fener and Meanas), but that's about it. Maybe someone can pick up on something there that I missed. Do you think I should I have kept the whole thing to myself just because I didn't conclude anything earthshattering?

[Telas]

So, D'riss got accused of being Grief(What a harsh thing to say to someone : ) and Korvalain has revealed on one vote.
Now, i'm really not sure what to make of this.
On one hand, he could be a nervous Guard who doesn't want lynched. However, he could just as easily be a nervous Scum who doesn't want lynched.
Not gonna lay down a vote yet, but i'm leaning towards him being scum.
Korvalain, who did you guard last night? Do you have a code or anything to prove?

[Telas]

No one around?

[Liosan]

Silanah, on May 15 2009, 04:29 AM, said:

well....thats it for my computer internet time till monday.

laterz....

:zanth:

[Telas]

Yeah.
Might be best to have a really slow weekend, cause giving sil a free pass till monday really isn't cool.