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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:10 PM
Yeah, he guarded Ano.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:15 PM
i guarded ano, i had a spat with ps about the scenes because ano claimed to be valerie while shadow was miracle max and its implied quite heavily that kessobahn was miracle max in the scene. given the claim of healer it was obvious if they were not lying and my guard hadnt been stopping a night kill that they would be targetted as they would be percieved stronger. on the contrary i felt there was sufficeint doubt to continue blocking them as the healer role cant target itself and we havent had multiple night kills since night 2 so for me it was a must to continue blocking them.
so lying - i would have stopped the night kill
truth - no way i could have stopped it but either could they.
i think it likely that either we had some extra vigs or the evil team had symps with vigs, i had originally pushed the idea of multiple killers, but we only got one scum day 4 whereas the multiple killers stopped day 3.
fact is, there has to be one killer between the time of anos healer reveal and the end of day, and if i read it correctly it means its either korvo or omtose. omtose is my bet as i still think korv is a symp also omtose despite evidence from 3, yes THREE counter claims still acts like ja was a finder, even though he cleared me in an investigation and i am somehow now scum.
if that aint a contradiction i dont know what is.
so lying - i would have stopped the night kill
truth - no way i could have stopped it but either could they.
i think it likely that either we had some extra vigs or the evil team had symps with vigs, i had originally pushed the idea of multiple killers, but we only got one scum day 4 whereas the multiple killers stopped day 3.
fact is, there has to be one killer between the time of anos healer reveal and the end of day, and if i read it correctly it means its either korvo or omtose. omtose is my bet as i still think korv is a symp also omtose despite evidence from 3, yes THREE counter claims still acts like ja was a finder, even though he cleared me in an investigation and i am somehow now scum.
if that aint a contradiction i dont know what is.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:16 PM
yeah, I'm not liking Omtose either. You (Omtose) must not have read the thread either and didn't notice that I counter-revealed with the hammer. Not after he was dead. Not sure where I want to vote yet.
Emur claims a vig, maybe we give him a chance to prove it tonight.
Not sure about Game, but voting for himself doesn't seem like scum behavior and nor does his actions so far, could be wrong.
Emur claims a vig, maybe we give him a chance to prove it tonight.
Not sure about Game, but voting for himself doesn't seem like scum behavior and nor does his actions so far, could be wrong.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:21 PM
Omtose, on May 10 2009, 10:10 PM, said:
Yeah, he guarded Ano.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
jesus you are terrible at this game.
Galain when he revealed said he investigated me night 2 and came back inno. Right so how when in one part you say you believe galain in another have you put me down as a killer?
as far as me turning the votes, here is the order of events
1 when i came on there was a scum find result on emurlahn and i placed my vote without hesitation,
2 i reread everything and noticed the result wasnt scum, it was vizzini so i asked galain, whats you character name.
3 at which point he revealed my character name and so i switched to him.
4 when he was l-1 rashan rereading the thread sees he claimed tennes as partner, and rashan immeadiatley votes him as he was partnered to tennes.
even if rashan was my symp, which makes no sense as according to the finder you believe i am not scum, why would he counter reveal? all he need to is vote at that point.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:25 PM
Rashan, on May 10 2009, 10:16 PM, said:
yeah, I'm not liking Omtose either. You (Omtose) must not have read the thread either and didn't notice that I counter-revealed with the hammer. Not after he was dead. Not sure where I want to vote yet.
Emur claims a vig, maybe we give him a chance to prove it tonight.
Not sure about Game, but voting for himself doesn't seem like scum behavior and nor does his actions so far, could be wrong.
Emur claims a vig, maybe we give him a chance to prove it tonight.
Not sure about Game, but voting for himself doesn't seem like scum behavior and nor does his actions so far, could be wrong.
your not wrong.
worse thing is, i dont trust you rashan, and i aint a fraid to say it. you could easily be galains master and jumped in to make yourself pi. you were also round at the time to change your night action to ano, and your character of king makes us have
1 guard
1 vig
paired healers
paired lovers turn to vig
paired lovers without power.
thats eight power innos and we havent had a proper finder reveal. if you are telling the truth then it may account for the early night kills as the symps probably all got a vig each which would mean 2 or 3 killers and 2 or 3 symps.
i will leave your reveal until later though, as for the moment i think omtose is the pressing concern.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:34 PM
no that's fine, I wouldn't trust me either.
Unfortunately, unlike Galain saying that he and Tennes had like 1000 PM messages, we rarely rarely talked via PM due to time zones and other problems. So neither of us coded and even if only I did it wouldn't matter since that is what Galain claimed. I needed to get Tennes to code my name and failed to do so.
Omtose, I'm not sure about, but you are right that only a certain few were around to submit NA's. The problem though is what if a killer was just lurking but not posting, there we are completely looking in the wrong direction.
Unfortunately, unlike Galain saying that he and Tennes had like 1000 PM messages, we rarely rarely talked via PM due to time zones and other problems. So neither of us coded and even if only I did it wouldn't matter since that is what Galain claimed. I needed to get Tennes to code my name and failed to do so.
Omtose, I'm not sure about, but you are right that only a certain few were around to submit NA's. The problem though is what if a killer was just lurking but not posting, there we are completely looking in the wrong direction.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:42 PM
Rashan, on May 10 2009, 10:34 PM, said:
no that's fine, I wouldn't trust me either.
Unfortunately, unlike Galain saying that he and Tennes had like 1000 PM messages, we rarely rarely talked via PM due to time zones and other problems. So neither of us coded and even if only I did it wouldn't matter since that is what Galain claimed. I needed to get Tennes to code my name and failed to do so.
Omtose, I'm not sure about, but you are right that only a certain few were around to submit NA's. The problem though is what if a killer was just lurking but not posting, there we are completely looking in the wrong direction.
Unfortunately, unlike Galain saying that he and Tennes had like 1000 PM messages, we rarely rarely talked via PM due to time zones and other problems. So neither of us coded and even if only I did it wouldn't matter since that is what Galain claimed. I needed to get Tennes to code my name and failed to do so.
Omtose, I'm not sure about, but you are right that only a certain few were around to submit NA's. The problem though is what if a killer was just lurking but not posting, there we are completely looking in the wrong direction.
he is also making no attempt to even try to see things from a different point of view and clinging to the standard lynch them both approach when we arent in a standard situation.
for a start galain only revealed when it was clear he was about to be vigged.
secondly it was not one counter reveal, but three.
omtose wont even entertain the thought that ja was my symp, he still says he was finder, and taht i am scum, even when that makes absolutely no sense.
to say i am baffled is an understatement.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:44 PM
Path-Shaper, on May 4 2009, 02:44 PM, said:
But grandpa, if Westley and the Princess and Inigo and Fezzik escaped, what happened to the Prince and the King and the Queen?”
“That is in a different book, my boy. One that exists only in our heads. It is a story we can tell together. Where do you think we should start?”
“Prince Humperdinck wanted war, did he not?”
“A border war with Guilder, yes.”
“And do you think Westley and Buttercup and Fezzik and Inigo would try to stop them?”
“It would be a short story otherwise, wouldn’t it?”
“I think we should start there. And this time, it will be bloody.”
--- Rugen’s secret hide-out under the oak ---
Ten thousand volts cruised through the body of the Count, jolting him from left to right, forcing his eyes open, arcing his back, spreading his eleven fingers wide. With a scream, he sat up.
“Perfect,” Humperdinck said. “Vizzini, you truly are a visionary, guessing that Rugen’s machine could be used to revive as well as torture and kill.”
“That is what you pay me for, my prince, that and the fact that Sicilians are prepared for everything, even iocane poisoning. It seemed logical that if you can pump life out of a man, you can pump it back in,” the Sicilian said, grimace revealing stained teeth. “What is it you want me to do?”
“It is time for our country to be ruled by a man of ambition. I want you to round up my parents and sent them on a tour of the town. Make sure they get lost somewhere along the way, the two old fools should not be able to find their way back. Send some men with them, make sure they are properly silenced. If my bride cannot die for our war with Guilder, then my parents can.
When you are certain of their demise, organize me a crowning. In the meantime, I will plan the war with Rugen here, he seems recovered enough to discuss the upcoming carnage.”
--- That same evening, somewhere on the streets of the village ---
“Isn’t that Miracle Max, our wonder worker?” The Queen asked, squinting.
“He’s not close enough for me to see,” the King said, straining his near sighted eyes.
“It is him,” the Queen insisted.
“Maybe,” the King offered.
“Enough of that, dear, let’s go and see him, he can take us back to the castle,” the Queen said.
“I’m not that energetic anymore, darling,” the King complained.
“I’m sure he’ll have a pill for that, sweetie,” the Queen shushed. “Now, after him!”
--- a short while later, in the house of Miracle Max ---
“What do you mean, cannot take us back?” the Queen asked.
“Your son says you are dead, killed by assassins from Guilder, just as you were returning from your inspection of the town,” Max’ wife said.
“So this is all a misunderstanding?” the King tried.
“No, no, he has arranged a crowning, and said he will get revenge. I suspect this is all his doing!” Max’ wife replied.
“That naughty boy!” the Queen said, outraged. “Someone needs to smack his bottom!”
“We can’t do it,” the King whispered. “ But what about that nice young lady and her man in black? They did it once, didn’t they?”
“They are gone,” the Queen cried.
“Can you work a Miracle, Max?” Max’ wife asked.
“It will be difficult,” he said.
“Please try,” the King said.
"I will," Max grumbled. "Just don't hurry the miracle man. Don't hurry Max."
"Why them? Why not ask the villagers to help us?" the Queen asked.
“She kissed me.” the King offered, sheepishly.
GAME ON!
“That is in a different book, my boy. One that exists only in our heads. It is a story we can tell together. Where do you think we should start?”
“Prince Humperdinck wanted war, did he not?”
“A border war with Guilder, yes.”
“And do you think Westley and Buttercup and Fezzik and Inigo would try to stop them?”
“It would be a short story otherwise, wouldn’t it?”
“I think we should start there. And this time, it will be bloody.”
--- Rugen’s secret hide-out under the oak ---
Ten thousand volts cruised through the body of the Count, jolting him from left to right, forcing his eyes open, arcing his back, spreading his eleven fingers wide. With a scream, he sat up.
“Perfect,” Humperdinck said. “Vizzini, you truly are a visionary, guessing that Rugen’s machine could be used to revive as well as torture and kill.”
“That is what you pay me for, my prince, that and the fact that Sicilians are prepared for everything, even iocane poisoning. It seemed logical that if you can pump life out of a man, you can pump it back in,” the Sicilian said, grimace revealing stained teeth. “What is it you want me to do?”
“It is time for our country to be ruled by a man of ambition. I want you to round up my parents and sent them on a tour of the town. Make sure they get lost somewhere along the way, the two old fools should not be able to find their way back. Send some men with them, make sure they are properly silenced. If my bride cannot die for our war with Guilder, then my parents can.
When you are certain of their demise, organize me a crowning. In the meantime, I will plan the war with Rugen here, he seems recovered enough to discuss the upcoming carnage.”
--- That same evening, somewhere on the streets of the village ---
“Isn’t that Miracle Max, our wonder worker?” The Queen asked, squinting.
“He’s not close enough for me to see,” the King said, straining his near sighted eyes.
“It is him,” the Queen insisted.
“Maybe,” the King offered.
“Enough of that, dear, let’s go and see him, he can take us back to the castle,” the Queen said.
“I’m not that energetic anymore, darling,” the King complained.
“I’m sure he’ll have a pill for that, sweetie,” the Queen shushed. “Now, after him!”
--- a short while later, in the house of Miracle Max ---
“What do you mean, cannot take us back?” the Queen asked.
“Your son says you are dead, killed by assassins from Guilder, just as you were returning from your inspection of the town,” Max’ wife said.
“So this is all a misunderstanding?” the King tried.
“No, no, he has arranged a crowning, and said he will get revenge. I suspect this is all his doing!” Max’ wife replied.
“That naughty boy!” the Queen said, outraged. “Someone needs to smack his bottom!”
“We can’t do it,” the King whispered. “ But what about that nice young lady and her man in black? They did it once, didn’t they?”
“They are gone,” the Queen cried.
“Can you work a Miracle, Max?” Max’ wife asked.
“It will be difficult,” he said.
“Please try,” the King said.
"I will," Max grumbled. "Just don't hurry the miracle man. Don't hurry Max."
"Why them? Why not ask the villagers to help us?" the Queen asked.
“She kissed me.” the King offered, sheepishly.
GAME ON!
i really should read scenes, this does certsainly add some veractity to your claim as there are indeed king and queen characters and they do seem like they should be goodies.
edit order went weird in me words
This post has been edited by Gamelon: 10 May 2009 - 09:45 PM
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:48 PM
yeah, well there is no way I could see JA as inno unless he was pulling a Gem and trying to screw the town but that doesn't seem like him. Seemed he was doing everything possible to weasel his way out of the lynch and got unlucky since 3 different people revealed against him.
and no vig yet, I'd like that but apparently I am a useless old woman lol.
As for the opening scene, that is why I think there are 3 people who will CF as scum- Rugen, Vizzini, and the prince.
edit: I didn't expect a vig though since I was RI to start, doesn't make sense to change it now.
and no vig yet, I'd like that but apparently I am a useless old woman lol.
As for the opening scene, that is why I think there are 3 people who will CF as scum- Rugen, Vizzini, and the prince.
edit: I didn't expect a vig though since I was RI to start, doesn't make sense to change it now.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:58 PM
Omtose, on May 10 2009, 10:10 PM, said:
Yeah, he guarded Ano.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
So the entire killer team fake revealed in order to get rid of one finder? Seems incredibly risky - the chances of there being another counter-reveal seem rather high. Plus, anyone can code stuff into their posts - his reveal might bear some weight if Tennes has coded something about Galain, but no evidence of that was provided. I'm sorry, but that point of view seems to have an awful lot of holes in it.
(This will probably be a big crosspost)
EDIT: And it was.
This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 10 May 2009 - 10:04 PM
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 09:59 PM
Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 10:58 PM, said:
Omtose, on May 10 2009, 10:10 PM, said:
Yeah, he guarded Ano.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
So the entire killer team fake revealed in order to get rid of one finder? Seems incredibly risky - the chances of there being another counter-reveal seem rather high. Plus, anyone can code stuff into their posts - his reveal might bear some weight if Tennes has coded something about Galain, but no evidence of that was provided. I'm sorry, but that point of view seems to have an awful lot of holes in it.
(This will probably be a big crosspost)
why didnt you vig someone last night?
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 10:28 PM
Gamelon, on May 10 2009, 10:59 PM, said:
Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 10:58 PM, said:
Omtose, on May 10 2009, 10:10 PM, said:
Yeah, he guarded Ano.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
I know I'm taking a chance by putting stock in what Galain said, but he came back inno, and he coded Tennes into his post.
Rashan didn't code anything, and he's already proved that he can be untrustworthy in thread with his claim that he had read up when he hadn't and was basically just skimming, maybe just scanning for his name (the second time I called him out on this was my misread of his post and my mistake, fair enough).
So the way I see it (and have done for a while) is this:
Galain revealed a find on Emu, Emu claimed inno vig.
Gamelon started to turn the votes away from Emu and onto Galain (I myself also voted for him and said he was the more likely of the two to be scum).
Galain gets lynched.
I voted Emu as I said I would, and according to the way these reveal-counter-reveal things should go down.
Gamelon starts attacking me. His "lynch me and prove I'm inno" thing didn't last very long.
Rashan comes on to counter-reveal Galain after he is dead.
So this makes me think these three guys are scum. Gamelon and Emu seem to be the killers, and Rashan the symp.
I would be willing to vote for either Emu or Gam at the moment. Gamelon claims to be a BP guard (with the BP conveniently only working on NKs, so apparently we can't test it by lynching him). I claim he's talking bullshit and I'm leaving my vote on him for now.
And that's me for the night. See you all in the morning.
So the entire killer team fake revealed in order to get rid of one finder? Seems incredibly risky - the chances of there being another counter-reveal seem rather high. Plus, anyone can code stuff into their posts - his reveal might bear some weight if Tennes has coded something about Galain, but no evidence of that was provided. I'm sorry, but that point of view seems to have an awful lot of holes in it.
(This will probably be a big crosspost)
why didnt you vig someone last night?
When I left, I felt the situation was delicate and required some thought before I put a vig in. I didn't have time to give it that thought, so I left it for when I got back, by which time the lynch had already gone through.
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:39 PM
Well I am clearly late to the party. Stupid Mother's Day.
I've read up and pretty much only have two points.
One, I'm not voting because I want to make sure HP has a chance to participate. There's no point in rushing this one with the timer so long.
Two, below...
Rashan, read up properly, either gam or galain were lying. I think it's possible galain were Gam's symp. Emur and Gam has to die, it's that simple.
If I read the plan correctly from yesterday/early today, the plan is to lynch Galain... and then if he comes up inno, lynch Emur or Game. Do I believe Galain? Not really, three counter reveals is shit play if Game is scum, but by my estimation we need to stick to the plan.
edit: Unless Emur can day vig, that actually makes a big diff imo.
I've read up and pretty much only have two points.
One, I'm not voting because I want to make sure HP has a chance to participate. There's no point in rushing this one with the timer so long.
Two, below...
Ampelas, on May 10 2009, 09:18 AM, said:
Rashan, on May 10 2009, 12:15 PM, said:
I'm going to shower and get some food, so I'll be back in a little bit.
Can anyone direct me at a case towards Game/Emur? I see that they have revealed as guard/vig so I'd like to see what going on against them.
I also still like HP, who hasn't been on in over 48 hours.
Can anyone direct me at a case towards Game/Emur? I see that they have revealed as guard/vig so I'd like to see what going on against them.
I also still like HP, who hasn't been on in over 48 hours.
Rashan, read up properly, either gam or galain were lying. I think it's possible galain were Gam's symp. Emur and Gam has to die, it's that simple.
If I read the plan correctly from yesterday/early today, the plan is to lynch Galain... and then if he comes up inno, lynch Emur or Game. Do I believe Galain? Not really, three counter reveals is shit play if Game is scum, but by my estimation we need to stick to the plan.
edit: Unless Emur can day vig, that actually makes a big diff imo.
This post has been edited by Serc: 10 May 2009 - 11:39 PM
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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:50 PM
Serc, on May 11 2009, 12:39 AM, said:
Well I am clearly late to the party. Stupid Mother's Day.
I've read up and pretty much only have two points.
One, I'm not voting because I want to make sure HP has a chance to participate. There's no point in rushing this one with the timer so long.
Two, below...
Rashan, read up properly, either gam or galain were lying. I think it's possible galain were Gam's symp. Emur and Gam has to die, it's that simple.
If I read the plan correctly from yesterday/early today, the plan is to lynch Galain... and then if he comes up inno, lynch Emur or Game. Do I believe Galain? Not really, three counter reveals is shit play if Game is scum, but by my estimation we need to stick to the plan.
edit: Unless Emur can day vig, that actually makes a big diff imo.
I've read up and pretty much only have two points.
One, I'm not voting because I want to make sure HP has a chance to participate. There's no point in rushing this one with the timer so long.
Two, below...
Ampelas, on May 10 2009, 09:18 AM, said:
Rashan, on May 10 2009, 12:15 PM, said:
I'm going to shower and get some food, so I'll be back in a little bit.
Can anyone direct me at a case towards Game/Emur? I see that they have revealed as guard/vig so I'd like to see what going on against them.
I also still like HP, who hasn't been on in over 48 hours.
Can anyone direct me at a case towards Game/Emur? I see that they have revealed as guard/vig so I'd like to see what going on against them.
I also still like HP, who hasn't been on in over 48 hours.
Rashan, read up properly, either gam or galain were lying. I think it's possible galain were Gam's symp. Emur and Gam has to die, it's that simple.
If I read the plan correctly from yesterday/early today, the plan is to lynch Galain... and then if he comes up inno, lynch Emur or Game. Do I believe Galain? Not really, three counter reveals is shit play if Game is scum, but by my estimation we need to stick to the plan.
edit: Unless Emur can day vig, that actually makes a big diff imo.
Nope, my vig is of the night variety, I'm afraid.
Early yesterday, the plan was as you say. But the second part of the plan is only necessary if Galain was telling the truth, which he wasn't. Why do you feel we need to stick to it, exactly?
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 01:37 AM
Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 07:50 PM, said:
Early yesterday, the plan was as you say. But the second part of the plan is only necessary if Galain was telling the truth, which he wasn't. Why do you feel we need to stick to it, exactly?
And you failed to vig anyone on your end. Meaning, to me at least that Galain might have been telling the truth. You didnt even put in a provisional. Since you didn't prove your inno , by vigging someone, you remain an unknown part of all of those reveals.
