[Gamelon]

Ampelas, on May 10 2009, 07:07 PM, said:

Both of want me to see a 'pattern'. How am I supposed to know who to vote?

dont.

why not wait until emur and the others are on and we can have everyone chip in. let omtose squirm.

[Omtose]

Yeah, let's wait for the others. Off for a bath.

[Path-Shaper]

Gamelon, on May 10 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on May 10 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

How convenient for you. No way to test out your claims, is there? I think you're lying, Gamelon. You have been very desperate since Emu got fingered as scum.

@mods - are there lynch bps in this game?

This is TMDI 2, so let me ask the psychiatrist's question: what do you think yourself, are there lynch BPs in this game?

[Gamelon]

Path-Shaper, on May 10 2009, 07:21 PM, said:

Gamelon, on May 10 2009, 02:02 PM, said:

Omtose, on May 10 2009, 06:58 PM, said:

How convenient for you. No way to test out your claims, is there? I think you're lying, Gamelon. You have been very desperate since Emu got fingered as scum.

@mods - are there lynch bps in this game?

This is TMDI 2, so let me ask the psychiatrist's question: what do you think yourself, are there lynch BPs in this game?

twat

you know exactly why i asked.

@omtose - its the fact you do not even entertain the possibility that ja lied despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary that proves you are scum.

[Emurlahn]

I'm here, catching up. Don't lynch until I've had a chance to see who to submit a provisional on.

[Ampelas]

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 01:50 PM, said:

I'm here, catching up. Don't lynch until I've had a chance to see who to submit a provisional on.

:Surprise:

[Emurlahn]

Damn, guess I was a bit late. Well JA was a symp then, and he did a tremendous job of obscuring things. Going to have to think on this a bit, I was going through that as fast as I could to catch up, so I missed the nuances of the conversation. I had been thinking that Korlat had been slipping through very nicely, but I'm sure there's plenty of new stuff that's come to light since I thought that.

While I'd understand if you guys felt you need to lynch me, I think it was pretty obvious that Galain was flailing around trying to attract as much attention to himself as possible. He has more than one person counterclaiming him. Plus, do you really think they'd pair a vig with a finder? That sounds rather too powerful to me.

[Korvalain]

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

[Emurlahn]

OK, I see that Gamelon and Omtose are the two players that have come out of this looking suspicious. If someone could rundown the reasons why, that would be appreciated. The only thing I've picked up is that Galain fingered Gamelon as scummy before he died, which I am going to take as complete WIFOM. No way you can trust someone to indicate the right direction for you when he's got that many votes on him and is scummy. I didn't see why Omtose was raised as suspicious, why was that again?

Gamelon has claimed BP, so I figure it would be better for me to use my vig on Omtose if we had to choose between them. But I'm not certain that's the way to go just yet. We've got lots of time to talk things through.


EDIT: Crosspost with Korv.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 10 May 2009 - 07:18 PM

[Emurlahn]

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

You feel that there's a chance Galain was indeed inno and not a symp? Because if you don't, there's really no reason to vote for me...

[Korvalain]

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

You feel that there's a chance Galain was indeed inno and not a symp? Because if you don't, there's really no reason to vote for me...

meh. Need to get it cleared up. Letting you l9ve isn't a way to do that. So if your inno. sux. If your scum. sux. But nothing personal either way.

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

You feel that there's a chance Galain was indeed inno and not a symp? Because if you don't, there's really no reason to vote for me...

which is why i am scummy, because supposedly ja was MY smyp???

@korv - if ja is a symp why are you voting emur, and how does that naturally run onto me if he is inno as well? oh i remmeber its because you are omtose' symp, thats right, i forgot.

[Emurlahn]

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

You feel that there's a chance Galain was indeed inno and not a symp? Because if you don't, there's really no reason to vote for me...

meh. Need to get it cleared up. Letting you l9ve isn't a way to do that. So if your inno. sux. If your scum. sux. But nothing personal either way.

Look, no complaints if you think Galain might not have been a symp, I can understand why you might vote for me if you thought that. But if not, then there is absolutely no reason to vote for me, especially since there is no way a symp would try and frame one of his masters. Don't just say it needs to be cleared up and switch off your brain though - you're going to have to make a call.

[Gamelon]

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 08:28 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on May 10 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 10 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

Vote Emurlahn


that was the plan. Now if Emur comes up inno, we lynch Gamelon.

You feel that there's a chance Galain was indeed inno and not a symp? Because if you don't, there's really no reason to vote for me...

meh. Need to get it cleared up. Letting you l9ve isn't a way to do that. So if your inno. sux. If your scum. sux. But nothing personal either way.

Look, no complaints if you think Galain might not have been a symp, I can understand why you might vote for me if you thought that. But if not, then there is absolutely no reason to vote for me, especially since there is no way a symp would try and frame one of his masters. Don't just say it needs to be cleared up and switch off your brain though - you're going to have to make a call.

three players have for me made some "astounding" leaps in logic since this revealfest began.

amp is proven inno by tellan but seems to think, i would suggest they vig galain, so when galain reveals rezzik i can counter claim in which case he is lynched inno and is my symp.

omtose - depsite you, me and rashan all saying his reveal countered something in our role thinks we must follow through with ja's plan.

korv - is his usual flailing self and i think deserved of your vig. frankly, his play has been borderline insane.

[Mockra]

Wait...WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

I'm reading through that freaking reveal fest now, and I'm frigging lost. Honestly, have we lynched anyone yet? Fuck. I have to go to school. *runs in circles*

[Ampelas]

The more I think about it the more I feel we should lynch Gamelon. He has put pressure on players to get them to reveal (yes In understand the irony in that) for one thing.

[Mockra]

Shit, I've got to go. I'll be back in several hours though, well before deadline. *sigh*

I'm still confused.

[Gamelon]

Ampelas, on May 10 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

The more I think about it the more I feel we should lynch Gamelon. He has put pressure on players to get them to reveal (yes In understand the irony in that) for one thing.

i really do despair. if you think i am scum, why would i have spoke up when emur was l-2, i had even voted him? why not use your brain and try to use logic to reach the point where i am guilty. go on, try it, i want to here your brain melt from way over here.

[Gamelon]

seriously, tell me straight, you think as a scum killer i purposefully counter revealled at l-2 my own symp who had just CI'ed me????/?????????

wft is wrong with you?

[Emurlahn]

OK, so I went and had a look back:

When Gamelon reveals, it isn't yet clear who is telling the truth between myself and Galain. So I guess I could see him revealing to try and get the guy who claimed finder lynched. But lets be honest, would a scum really try that if he couldn't be sure that Galain was telling the truth? There could well have been a third person out there who could have claimed Fezzik, and then where would he have been? Gamelon's reveal fits and makes sense (whereas Galain's really didn't given who Fezzik was), and his point that we should go after Ano made sense at the time given his reveal, as Ano being paired with Fener would have fitted the facts quite well.

But then Ano reveals as healer, a reveal that looks pretty bulletproof. Now we need to explain why there was only 1 NK on Night 3. Two ways it could have come about:

1) Gamelon was telling the truth. Both killer teams targetted Tellan, resulting in only one NK despite the fact that Ano's heal didn't go through.

2) Gamelon was lying all along. He did not in fact guard Ano, so Ano's heal went through, saving Ampelas from death.

Now, I'm leaning towards option 1, because I find it unlikely that Gamelon's earlier behaviour is that of a killer. (There was the Role PM thing too...but the less said about that the better)

I feel it was likely that Fener was a solo killer, because of the fact that there was only one kill last night. Unless there was some blocking/healing going on...but Ano didn't say who she healed last night. Who did you say you guarded, Gamelon?