[Tellan]

Serc, on May 8 2009, 12:16 PM, said:

Tellan, on May 8 2009, 08:23 AM, said:

Kessobahn, Fener, Tennes, Galain, Hood's Path and Ruse added his vote after the count.

Tellan, this was your original suspect list and you had Ruse and Galain as the biggest concerns. I know new info has come up, but I guess the idea is to trade your suspicions for all-but-stated symp behavior on Korv (also saw you mention Rashan's WEIRD comments).

At the time of my reveal it seemed to me likely that someone on the train could very well be scum. They usually aren't the first on and usually not the ones to hammer (sometimes), they like to be right in the middle somewhere, to reinforce a train and make it look inevitable, so that people that come on right as Day is ticking down just pick the inevitable target. So that is what I was going on at the time. Since then yes quite a bit of information has come up and thus of course my view has changed. Also, I consider at this time votes for Mockra to be wierd, yeah I get it, he's going to skate a modkill, but he surely can't be a lynchable target on a day reveal can he? Rashan's comments were wierd because he says caught up, but clearly he wasn't likely meaning he just looked on the list for someone to lynch.

[Korvalain]

haha. but its fucking insane. you guys really really really need to do a serious re-read. I am sure to the fucking killers its fucking obvious who to take out. I try damage control. nothing. I try to switch topics. Hoods path says...quote the post where you cied fucking lio. I think well, the fucking killers killed shadow for being fucking dense so I'll post it again, so every fucking one can go...ohhh yeah, thats it....i fucking see it....my role less fucking inno pm says exactly the fucking same thing. and then fucking galain ...says...what... i dont get it? sstupid o0fucking son of a fucking game. I m out.

[Galain]

Tennes, on May 8 2009, 09:48 PM, said:

A lot of newbies in this game, it appears. Or a lot of killers that are acting like newbies! Will be fun to see which it ends up being.

I'm going to go along with the Ampelas and Tellan are inno's kick for now and will jump on Tellan's bandwagon for my vote today.

If we run the numbers, we started with 24 and are down to 17. All of the dead were inno. This means we only have 5 inno's left and 12 scum! I just hope Miracle Max is watching over Tellan and Ampelas or it isn't going to be long until all of us are toast and scum takes over.

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Vote Korvalain

... what? You were not joking before?

Or is that sarcasm?

[Korlat]

Korvalain, on May 9 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

haha. but its fucking insane. you guys really really really need to do a serious re-read. I am sure to the fucking killers its fucking obvious who to take out. I try damage control. nothing. I try to switch topics. Hoods path says...quote the post where you cied fucking lio. I think well, the fucking killers killed shadow for being fucking dense so I'll post it again, so every fucking one can go...ohhh yeah, thats it....i fucking see it....my role less fucking inno pm says exactly the fucking same thing. and then fucking galain ...says...what... i dont get it? sstupid o0fucking son of a fucking game. I m out.

I am sorry that this game has gotten to you in this way. I know what it can do.

[Korvalain]

Tapper wont kill me without gavins fucking approval. lynch me. fucking take me out. do yourselves a favor and kill the fucking moron who is the fucking cause of all o this. help your team and kill the fuck out of me. not fucking martyrdom. fucking self preservation.

remove vote vote korvalain

[Kessobahn]

sigh, time is ticking, guys... we need to make a decision, and relatively soon.

Korv, if you feel like it, request a modkill now. I'm tired of trying to dissuade you.

[Korvalain]

Korlat, on May 8 2009, 03:34 PM, said:

Korvalain, on May 9 2009, 07:29 AM, said:

haha. but its fucking insane. you guys really really really need to do a serious re-read. I am sure to the fucking killers its fucking obvious who to take out. I try damage control. nothing. I try to switch topics. Hoods path says...quote the post where you cied fucking lio. I think well, the fucking killers killed shadow for being fucking dense so I'll post it again, so every fucking one can go...ohhh yeah, thats it....i fucking see it....my role less fucking inno pm says exactly the fucking same thing. and then fucking galain ...says...what... i dont get it? sstupid o0fucking son of a fucking game. I m out.

I am sorry that this game has gotten to you in this way. I know what it can do.

first time ever that this has ever happened. but to continue down the same path over and over again. with new people questioning how the fuck i knew lio was inno. hurts.team.inno.

[Path-Shaper]

Kessobahn, on May 8 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

sigh, time is ticking, guys... we need to make a decision, and relatively soon.

Korv, if you feel like it, request a modkill now. I'm tired of trying to dissuade you.

He did. However, imho, there are a few conflicts here with the rules.
1) it is my humble opinion that Korv didn't hurt his team on purpose (whatever his team is).
2) if I modkill him before the lynch on his request, it may or may not prove a point.

So, I'm not going to modkill him now.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 08 May 2009 - 07:39 PM

[Kessobahn]

Korvalain, on May 8 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

Tapper wont kill me without gavins fucking approval. lynch me. fucking take me out. do yourselves a favor and kill the fucking moron who is the fucking cause of all o this. help your team and kill the fuck out of me. not fucking martyrdom. fucking self preservation.

remove vote vote korvalain

ok
you realize it'd be fucking waste of our fucking time, we would end up with 3 more dead fucking innos and nothing to go on?

grow a fucking pair, wait for Gavin to get on and beg him for a modkill, if you like.

in the meanwhile, since you are around, crying us a fucking river, why don't you put your vote somewhere useful for once?

Jesus, fucking christ
remove vote

vote Ruse

since it seems it's the only OTHER fucking train we can get going today, and i'm NOT gonna fucking oblige Korv's hurt feelings and waste a lynch with no info on him.

[Galain]

OK, caught up.

There's a LOT of bizarre stuff, to be polite, the trick is to separate the bizarre and the scummy.

1) Korvalain's recent meltdown. I don't know what to say man, I didn't mind too much your explosion on day 1, it made things happen. On day 2, though, you made the huge no-no of pushing a role PM conversation, with the additional problem that you apparently made a 180 once the damage was done and players like Tellan were exposed. You got a lot of flak for this, but then again it's a huge no-no for a reason.

2) Rashan's "I'm caught up" and "Might vote Amp" post. Obviously, he was NOT "caught up". You can post before catching up, that's allowed, you can say you'll catch up later, that's allowed, but who the hell says they've caught up and start playing before reading the thread? I always say that the ones that skim the thread the most are the killers. They usually check the posts that mention their alts, then back up whatever seems to be the majority. That many players didn't have time to remove their votes on Ampelas yet trapped him.

3) Tennes' "does the game have 50% scum to start with". I mean, really? Does the sign-up list contain such a new player? Wasn't last game relatively normal too?

[Korvalain]

to the new guy. these guys are mean to noobs, but its because we have been burnt hard by noob killers several times. they dont mean anything by it. also the questions you asked in thread would have been better directed to path-shaper. if for no other reason than to not let the others have ammo to attack you. I hope you dont skim over this post. Also, if it matters, emur is a killer and so is serc. Hp rashan ,or kessobahn is a symp. I dont expect anyone to actually believe me. but its pretty obvious when you think about it. and kess, i did but tapper wont as its against the rules. I havent technically done anything to get mod killed. Sorry about the break down, but enough with the pm talk, and if anyone cares, i never once started those conversations. I added to them, but I never once started them.

[Ampelas]

back again briefly. Korvalain, if you know who the killers are, why don't you tell us? You said it was obvious, or did I completely misunderstand your rant.

[Kessobahn]

right
why is Emur + Serc killers?

and why are you saying this NOW, 2 hours before deadline, with no proof?

my god, how many people are pretending to be noobs in this game?

[Ampelas]

Kesso, I disagree with your notion that we don't get info from lynching Korv, I think we will get tons of info.

[Ampelas]

Korvalain, spell it out, what do you know about Serc and Emur?

[Fener]

Yes, please. Explanation.

[Galain]

I didn't appreciate Ruse's case on me because I didn't like that it started "some good players are still alive", but I didn't think it particularly scummy.

However, Omtose's comment about the "Prince" episode being the actual Prince signaling his disjointed scum team, I thought was brilliant, I don't undestand why he didn't push it further.

It might be a coincidence, but it remains a strange thing for Ruse to say. I know he showed the screen capture, it means he's not lying, but it doesn't explain why he felt the need to share this with us. Unless he thought "well will you look at that?" when he saw his role name appear on his tab.

Anyways, we can clarify the Tennes and Rashan issue later, for now I'm OK with lynching Korvalain or Ruse, although I would prefer Korvalain.

[Korvalain]

Galain, on May 8 2009, 03:42 PM, said:

OK, caught up.

There's a LOT of bizarre stuff, to be polite, the trick is to separate the bizarre and the scummy.

1) Korvalain's recent meltdown. I don't know what to say man, I didn't mind too much your explosion on day 1, it made things happen. On day 2, though, you made the huge no-no of pushing a role PM conversation, with the additional problem that you apparently made a 180 once the damage was done and players like Tellan were exposed. You got a lot of flak for this, but then again it's a huge no-no for a reason.

go back and read again. tellan used HIS pm to out Liosan. Liosan posted his pm to ci himself. I took that info and used it. I never once, not one single time pushed a fuckin pm conversation. but it doesnt fucking matter. if you think i am the cause of this fucking mess. i cant do a thing to change your mind.

[Galain]

Woa, cross-post with more Korvalain action.

You know they're killers, or you think?

[Korvalain]

gut feeling and instict. middle of the roaders both of them and never once not a single time have they been controversial. they are hiding in plain sight.