[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 16 hours and 4 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tellan: ( Anomandaris)
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Fener)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Fener]

Wow. Slow game.

Mockra, on Apr 25 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

Emurlahn: Fener's vote for Emurlahn's hammer on Liohsan that turned out to have actually been Fener's vote on Liohsan as the hammer? Lol. I think that vote will be reconsidered.

I wasn't even close to hammering Liosan. 6th or 7th maybe. But that's missing the point, it's not the act of hammering that I object to. Someone has to, right?

It's the act of hammering when there's around an hour left, there's someone else who says they'll be around to hammer, and the person being lynched might come back and claim, or at least put their thoughts down before the lynch, that I object to.

And whether Liosan was actually hammered earlier doesn't matter much. Nobody knew that, Emurlahn certainly didn't. And it's intent that matters.

Emurlahn, on Apr 25 2009, 04:07 PM, said:

But giving Liosan time to claim a role? It was day one, so there was little evidence to investigate to verify his claim, and any claims made at that point are rather dubious given that, well, they're about to die. If he was scum and L-1, he wouldn't have hesitated to reveal finder or something.

Disagree. Yes, an evil player would claim to save themself. But they risk a counter, and if there's a counter we know we've nailed an evil player. And if not they'd have to keep up the pretence all game, which is a big ask.

Also, there's the possibility that Liosan actually was a good role.

This post has been edited by Fener: 25 April 2009 - 09:50 PM

[Gamelon]

Path-Shaper, on Apr 25 2009, 02:41 PM, said:

Everything falls on us, Americans, to do. You'd think you foreiners would learn how to do for yourselves eventually. Sigh.

We Europeans ran all the intercontinental warfare and threat-business since 1493, earlier if you count the crusades... would say we have deserved a weekend break
And now, I'm off to bed.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 15 hours and 43 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

1 vote for Tellan: ( Anomandaris)
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Fener)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Korlat]

2 inno deaths, can't really expect anything else... though we can hope by some random chance that one was a symp
Not much happened in 9 hours....
I don't see what Fener has against Emur, his vote only either made the lynvh happen faster or at all.. what's the point of waiting on Ano. Baed on Liosans posts, we can't really be sure that we will see him again any time soon..
Im going to vote Tellan for now.. I don't like how he is playing, he seems to be floating around with very little to contribute. Lots of posts to be off everyone's radar.
Vote Tellan

[D'riss]

Been busy most of the day. Thought I would have a look before bed, to see if I could catch up on the day's events - didn't take long! LOL Weekend mafia blues I guess.

Korv being targeted is wierd. There were much more vocal players ~ although I suppose that's the point. His killer probably thinks vocal players will draw their own fire, but still...strange.

There's nothing as yet that I could pin a vote to, and no case I would make that is any better. But I should be on well before day times out ~ needs my beauty sleep now though.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 15 hours and 24 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

2 votes for Tellan: ( Korlat, Anomandaris)
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Fener)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Ampelas]

Sorry I haven't been around today. Gotta go out again now, but I'll be around tomorrow I think...these weekend starts are killer.

[Shadow]

Guess I should go back and check out what this Tellann business is about - can't say I've noticed him myself. Perhaps that's the point!

[Omtose]

Okay I've finally had a chance to catch up a little bit and fener is looking a bit suspicious to me at the moment. I didn't initially think it was too much of a problem yesterday when he initally made his case because I assumed he was trying to get teh game going. Quite a few people thought that in fact and I think it may have given him the oportunity to nudge the Liosan train a few times without attracting too much notice. He was really pushing for us to vote someone on day one and worked up a bit of a frenzy by saying we needed to get things going as we were running out of time. That seems to have really gotten things rolling against Lio, we went from a few people having a couple of votes to a pile of them for Lio in a very short period of time. I will get some quotes together in a second for you guys.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 14 hours and 43 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

2 votes for Tellan: ( Korlat, Anomandaris)
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Fener)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Omtose]

Fener, on Apr 25 2009, 04:57 AM, said:

I think we should lynch today, and it looks like it'll be tricky to get the votes. If we prefer to lynch a low poster, here are my top two choices. Either Silanah:

Silanah, on Apr 24 2009, 03:48 PM, said:

checking in briefly

Hello.....

Silanah, on Apr 24 2009, 05:50 PM, said:

ok im off for a bit now, enjoy your drunken antics people

....... and goodbye? That's it?

Or Korlat, as per Gamelon's post:

This is where Fener really starts pushing for a lynch on the first day. Initially he's looking at Silanah and Korlat

Fener, on Apr 25 2009, 05:44 AM, said:

Remove vote
Vote Korlat

I should be around on and off to change my vote if necessary.

He the immediately votes Korlat for being a low poster

Fener, on Apr 25 2009, 06:46 AM, said:

Given that we need 12 votes to lynch we really do have to get a move on.

Remove vote
Vote Liosan

An hour later with very little explanation he suddenly gives up lynching the low poster and abruptly changes to Liosan. He also stirs up a bit of a frenzy by saying that we need to get a move on. Immediately after this point Lio collected 5 votes in very short order. So he was happy to vote a low poster initially, but then for no real reason other than to get a quick lynch gives a nice nudge to the Lio train, that seems a bit suspicious to me. He was really putting the pressure on for a lynch and I would like to know why. Why not stick with your original plan of going for the low poster? Why did you feel there was such a rush

Fener, on Apr 25 2009, 07:11 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Apr 25 2009, 02:08 PM, said:

well i am back, still prefer my tellan case, but willing to put down the hammer unless we wish to discuss things further.

If you can stick around I think it would be a good idea to give Liosan a bit more time to get back, just in case he wants to claim a role.

This is what really strikes me as odd...At this point Lio's fate is pretty much sealed the train has really picked up speed and Ano is ready to vote for the Lynch. You would think Fener would be gung ho about this as he was the one going on about needing a lynch and us running out of time, but he's not. Why would you ask Ano to wait when you were all for the lynch not long before? So you give the train a nice nudge to get it really going, then tell people we're running out of time, but right before the lynch happens you make sure your name is in there to say we should hold it. That seems very convenient as far as drawing attention away from yourself or making yourself seem reluctant so people don't question your motives.

Like I said before I had already turned my attention away from Fener because I didn't think his initially making a case was overly aggresive as it seemed like he was just trying to get things going. This really made me take another look though because things had started moving, but he kept up with the pressure/aggresion, it was just a bit more subtle or passive that the first time. He was continuing with the pressure again today by voting for Emu right off the bat, he seems a bit vote happy to me. It makes me question his motives, so until he gives a bit of an explanation he's earned my vote.

vote Fener

[Fener]

Omtose, to answer your queries:

I changed my vote from Korlat to Liosan because nobody else seemed to want to lynch Korlat. The votes were going on Liosan, and I did want a lynch. I think at the time, Liosan was only on 6 votes out of 12, with the deadline rapidly approaching, so I don't think a "hurry up" was unwarrented.

But it seems that what really strikes you as odd is my later "let's wait". At that point, Liosan was at Lynch-1 (as per the mod's vote count). So I was certain that we'd get the lynch if he didn't show up and claim something. Which changed my mindset somewhat.

[Galain]

Well, too much to hope for a day one evil lynch, of course. *sigh*

I'm going to be out for most of today (well, the next few hours anyway). But I'll be on later.

[Galain]

Omtose, could you please use a colour other than blue? This alt's on aqua, and I can't be bothered changing it, and the blue is really hurting my eyes...

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 13 hours and 37 minutes remaining

21 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Korlat, Meanas, Mockra, Omtose, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

11 votes to lynch, 11 votes to go to night

2 votes for Tellan: ( Korlat, Anomandaris)
1 vote for Emurlahn: ( Fener)
1 vote for Fener: ( Omtose)

Players not voted: Ampelas, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Galain, Gamelon, Kessobahn, Meanas, Mockra, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Silanah, Telas, Tellan, Tennes

[Ruse]

Not really seeing a whole lot at least it isn't spread over eight people today.

[Telas]

Wow, I was gone for 7 hours and expected to come back to pages and pages to sift through.

There's so little to go on. D'riss still looks suspicious, but has managed to look a little happy-go-lucky in the face of Shadow's case, which makes him look a little better IMO. Fener is staying aggressive, and although that makes him stand out, that helps him look innocent in my mind. It'd be a helluva ballsy killer move to keep bringing that much attention to yourself.

What upsets me a bit is how slow this is moving. It's making things really easy for the scum to just cruise along since NOTHING is happening.

[Shadow]

Telas, on Apr 26 2009, 01:20 AM, said:

Wow, I was gone for 7 hours and expected to come back to pages and pages to sift through.

There's so little to go on. D'riss still looks suspicious, but has managed to look a little happy-go-lucky in the face of Shadow's case, which makes him look a little better IMO. Fener is staying aggressive, and although that makes him stand out, that helps him look innocent in my mind. It'd be a helluva ballsy killer move to keep bringing that much attention to yourself.

What upsets me a bit is how slow this is moving. It's making things really easy for the scum to just cruise along since NOTHING is happening.

Just thinking that maybe, on the other hand, a killer could act like this - because for one thing they don't have to worry about their profile getting too high on the killers' radar, as they're one of them! Furthermore, our first instinct to pushiness is generally to say they're an aggressive inno, as in our minds killers would want to hide.

Perhaps this is hiding in plain sight?

[Telas]

Ok, the Tellan case is similar to all the other ones yesterday, rather underdeveloped.

The way the game is progressing slowly, I think it's time to push the cruisers. Silanah has posted twice, and those posts contained nothing. Come out of the woodwork please!


Vote Silanah


Also, Rashan has NOT POSTED ONCE. Which by my count is either close or past 36 hour mod-kill for non-participation IF it were not the weekend. Common Rashan, where are you?

Edit: cross post

This post has been edited by Telas: 26 April 2009 - 01:33 AM