[Serc]

Well that was kinda anti-climatic but not completely unexpected.

Gem knows the difference between coding and signalling, WTF was she playing at?

@Shadowm they could always have gone after Ano in a WIFOM move. Anyway, it's better not to rely on healers anyway, since they're useless the second they reveal.

[Shadow]

Right, anyone got any ideas where to go from here?
My awesome suggestions:

1) We can continue down the path we're going, and off the remaining supposed "Mockra Crew" - seems D'riss and Emurlahn are most people's favourites...although I'm not so hot on Emurlahn at the moment. And D'riss strikes me as symp if anything at all, not killer (at least, not before Mockra's death)

2) We look at the low posters/force them to speak by voting on them. Problem here, as has been pointed out, is there's very little to accuse them of, primarily because they've said so little. Of those, my gut feeling suspects Ampelas and Korlat. No hard evidence though.

[Serc]

I'll prb be around for a little while, but dont think I'm gonna vote until tomorrow morning. After Driss is gone we dont have too much by way of suspects, Omtose and Emur are both icky cases at best. I think it would definitely be nice to have some of the low posters show face sometime soon.

[Tennes]

Gem had to have been a symp. So who was she drawing attention away from? I was kind of hoping that we would have healers. I think that Fener's partner should remain quiet unless they get a guilty find. DO NOT REVEAL TO SAVE SOMEONE.

Anomandaris why the quick vote on D'riss?

[Tennes]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 02:44 PM, said:

Right, anyone got any ideas where to go from here?
My awesome suggestions:

1) We can continue down the path we're going, and off the remaining supposed "Mockra Crew" - seems D'riss and Emurlahn are most people's favourites...although I'm not so hot on Emurlahn at the moment. And D'riss strikes me as symp if anything at all, not killer (at least, not before Mockra's death)

2) We look at the low posters/force them to speak by voting on them. Problem here, as has been pointed out, is there's very little to accuse them of, primarily because they've said so little. Of those, my gut feeling suspects Ampelas and Korlat. No hard evidence though.

Earlier I posted the only real posts of Ampelas's that had anything. A questionable statement and that is it. Which isn't very much to lynch someone over on day 5.

[Shadow]

Meanas/Gem was drawing attention away from absolutely everyone, which I guess if she was a symp, made her a fairly successful one. The other people with votes at the time were Omtose (till I switched to Meanas), Emurlahn, and I think D'riss.

I really think there's got to be a killer hiding in the quiet pack.

[Anomandaris]

i still think we should go for driss today, the problem with going for a low poster is we dont have anyone with any evidence to support guilt, whereas there is some evidence toward driss and to a lesser extent emurlahn. Not sure what the hell gem was playing at, if she was scum then wtf and if she is inno then wtf!!!

guessing i will be next for the chop at night so feners partner should of had last night and tonight to defo get some finds.

[Omtose]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

Right, anyone got any ideas where to go from here?
My awesome suggestions:

1) We can continue down the path we're going, and off the remaining supposed "Mockra Crew" - seems D'riss and Emurlahn are most people's favourites...although I'm not so hot on Emurlahn at the moment. And D'riss strikes me as symp if anything at all, not killer (at least, not before Mockra's death)

2) We look at the low posters/force them to speak by voting on them. Problem here, as has been pointed out, is there's very little to accuse them of, primarily because they've said so little. Of those, my gut feeling suspects Ampelas and Korlat. No hard evidence though.

I would like to take a closet look at driss, I was planning on doing it anyways before the Meanas suicide mission blew up. We should really go back over Meanas' posts to see if we can figure out who Gem was symping for. Beyond that I think we have to start looking at the low posters because beyond D'riss we don't have any major cases going at the moment.

What do we think of Gem's comment that Serc was her partner by the way? Just jokes, diversion or worth some investigation?

[Anomandaris]

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

Gem had to have been a symp. So who was she drawing attention away from? I was kind of hoping that we would have healers. I think that Fener's partner should remain quiet unless they get a guilty find. DO NOT REVEAL TO SAVE SOMEONE.

Anomandaris why the quick vote on D'riss?

i was voting them yesterday before gem exploded, i think he was the strongest case yesterday before gem went nuts, so i guess she was just trying to divert attention away from driss otherwise what was the point?

[Serc]

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 09:50 PM, said:

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 02:44 PM, said:

Right, anyone got any ideas where to go from here?
My awesome suggestions:

1) We can continue down the path we're going, and off the remaining supposed "Mockra Crew" - seems D'riss and Emurlahn are most people's favourites...although I'm not so hot on Emurlahn at the moment. And D'riss strikes me as symp if anything at all, not killer (at least, not before Mockra's death)

2) We look at the low posters/force them to speak by voting on them. Problem here, as has been pointed out, is there's very little to accuse them of, primarily because they've said so little. Of those, my gut feeling suspects Ampelas and Korlat. No hard evidence though.

Earlier I posted the only real posts of Ampelas's that had anything. A questionable statement and that is it. Which isn't very much to lynch someone over on day 5.

Unfortunately we dont have much to work with at the moment. And it will be really easy for the low posters to come in and parrot whatever we've said and give the standard 'oh no the finder is dead' type input. We really need for people to be around in order to analyse the way they react to trains and lynches. There's like 10 people who havent stood out at all this whole game

[Gamelon]

Lack of healers is a distinct disappointment Here's to hoping they healed Ano instead in a game of wifom, but WCS now seems the realistic one, and that is that we don't have any. Fuck.

Don't know what Gem was doing, did she hit her head on an ACME roadblock or something while chasing the errant? If she was inno, she did a spectacularly bad job of playing, so will note her down as scum, which at the least means we got two of them down now, which is good news. On to my re-read of the whole reveal tragedy.

[Omtose]

How much more time do we have before Rashan is mod-killed?

[Anomandaris]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 08:51 PM, said:

Meanas/Gem was drawing attention away from absolutely everyone, which I guess if she was a symp, made her a fairly successful one. The other people with votes at the time were Omtose (till I switched to Meanas), Emurlahn, and I think D'riss.

I really think there's got to be a killer hiding in the quiet pack.

agreed.

[Shadow]

I'm not sure what to make of her attempt to link Serc to her - it only really made sense if CF said she was evil, so trying to frame Serc as her evil partner. I like the theory that she just went spontaneously mental

On the other hand, no one really suspects Serc now because of all that apparent bullshit. Did she give him a clear run? Let's lynch Serc and find out!

Or, you know, think things through, analyse, look for evidence, some more.

[Gamelon]

Anomandaris, on Apr 27 2009, 12:55 PM, said:

Tennes, on Apr 27 2009, 08:47 PM, said:

Gem had to have been a symp. So who was she drawing attention away from? I was kind of hoping that we would have healers. I think that Fener's partner should remain quiet unless they get a guilty find. DO NOT REVEAL TO SAVE SOMEONE.

Anomandaris why the quick vote on D'riss?

i was voting them yesterday before gem exploded, i think he was the strongest case yesterday before gem went nuts, so i guess she was just trying to divert attention away from driss otherwise what was the point?

That makes sense, but I'd prefer to not get a train up too fast. If we do, it will become the only feasible option pretty soon and people can jump on without discussion yet again.
Besides, I would like to get something out of Korlat. Their ignoring of Fener's request to wait a bit during the Mockra lynch was... rather confrontational, especially for someone of whom I have had no clear read for the entire game.

And now, I'm going to close this window cause I'm F5ing more than reading the reveal act.

[Anomandaris]

its worth noting there was evidence that kess was also a symp, so perhaps there is only one active killer? or kess was a symp for mockra(the evil guard) and gem is the symp for the killer??

if there is only one killer (or consensus for one killer) we can rule out shadow and driss, both of whom have been guarded. personally i dont think 1 killer in a 24 man game is enough so still feel driss to be a strong suspect but i think we should start with all the facts.

[Shadow]

Ano, are you saying you guarded D'riss this time?

[Serc]

Shadow, on Apr 27 2009, 10:01 PM, said:

I'm not sure what to make of her attempt to link Serc to her - it only really made sense if CF said she was evil, so trying to frame Serc as her evil partner. I like the theory that she just went spontaneously mental

On the other hand, no one really suspects Serc now because of all that apparent bullshit. Did she give him a clear run? Let's lynch Serc and find out!

Or, you know, think things through, analyse, look for evidence, some more.

Heh, I would think the one person who would also believe she was talking complete crap would be you, since you're her supposed symp I admit Gem did a great job with that comment if she is a symp, it's WIFOM deluxe. I cant really defend myself against it other than by asking that if we had been linked somehow, would I have gone through such great lengths to make a case against her?

[Shadow]

@ Serc

Well, the easy answer is that you didn't know, as a killer, that she was a symp, and just thought that she was a silly inno you could get into trouble easily.

But I'm not implying that

[Omtose]

Okay well I've just started to go back over D'riss from day one. The first thing that has struck me is the sheer amount of back and forth between Mockra and Driss. It's not just the bit where he's going on about loving Mockra and being his pal. There were other people fooling around at that point and often commenting on what was said to the two of them but they just kept sticking to one another as far as conversation was concerned. I know alot of it was drunken banter but it would have been a good time to signal one another or set up some code. We know for sure that Mockra was scum and the fact that D'riss was primarily associating with him at the outset may be pure coincindence but it definitely worth some more investingation. I'm off to do some more reading through Driss' posts.