[Gavin]

Reread the Ment case again, its pretty poor. He waited and he gave a countdown before the hammer. Big thrill thats it? We have no idea if he was going to hammer or not, he gave a time when he was going to and we hadn't reached that time yet. I was around at the time and DKT and asked people to wait for his case and we did. JA was around and I was kinda expecting him to say something as well.

Don't think I'm going to switch to Ment based on that. I can't believe thats the best we have

[Morgoth]

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

Any idea who else the killer could be if not Mentalist?

Hm.. if not Ment then I think Gavin or Yellow might be it. Both have played the sort of background, half contributing sort of game that killers often stumble into. Yellow has picked up his act but whether that's because he got more time or feared he was taking it a bit too far I can' tell yet.

To explain my suspicions on Gavin I would have to make a case I think. For me that's the best way to order my thoughts, but I'll hold that off until day 5.

[Morgoth]

Gavin, on Mar 27 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

Reread the Ment case again, its pretty poor. He waited and he gave a countdown before the hammer. Big thrill thats it? We have no idea if he was going to hammer or not, he gave a time when he was going to and we hadn't reached that time yet. I was around at the time and DKT and asked people to wait for his case and we did. JA was around and I was kinda expecting him to say something as well.

Don't think I'm going to switch to Ment based on that. I can't believe thats the best we have

Gavin, there was 4 minutes left to the end of the day and he still wouldn't hammer. That's more than just waiting for JA.

[Jump Around]

For the record, I don't know if I was marked down there, but I wasn't around when dktorode put his case. I have sports a 5PM my time, and had to leave at 4:30, as I warned in this post:

Jump Around, on Mar 26 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

I'll have to go in around 20 minutes, so if Bubba is not the majority choice, and if my vote is needed for an alternative, then I'll need to know before that.

But anyways.

[Morgoth]

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 01:19 PM, said:

For the record, I don't know if I was marked down there, but I wasn't around when dktorode put his case. I have sports a 5PM my time, and had to leave at 4:30, as I warned in this post:

Jump Around, on Mar 26 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

I'll have to go in around 20 minutes, so if Bubba is not the majority choice, and if my vote is needed for an alternative, then I'll need to know before that.

But anyways.

we just can't live without your input. That's why you're generally killed so early. When you're around we're incapable of making any decisions without first checking them with you

[Gavin]

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

Any idea who else the killer could be if not Mentalist?

Hm.. if not Ment then I think Gavin or Yellow might be it. Both have played the sort of background, half contributing sort of game that killers often stumble into. Yellow has picked up his act but whether that's because he got more time or feared he was taking it a bit too far I can' tell yet.

To explain my suspicions on Gavin I would have to make a case I think. For me that's the best way to order my thoughts, but I'll hold that off until day 5.

Sure start to set up tomorrows lynch? Hmm I like how confident you are you'll be around tomorrow as well.

You know Morgy thinking it through I'm really starting to convince myself your scum.

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[Morgoth]

Gavin, on Mar 27 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

Any idea who else the killer could be if not Mentalist?

Hm.. if not Ment then I think Gavin or Yellow might be it. Both have played the sort of background, half contributing sort of game that killers often stumble into. Yellow has picked up his act but whether that's because he got more time or feared he was taking it a bit too far I can' tell yet.

To explain my suspicions on Gavin I would have to make a case I think. For me that's the best way to order my thoughts, but I'll hold that off until day 5.

Sure start to set up tomorrows lynch? Hmm I like how confident you are you'll be around tomorrow as well.

You know Morgy thinking it through I'm really starting to convince myself your scum.

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I'm making clear who my suspects are, so yes in a way I guess I am setting you up for a lynch, but then so are everyone else who present a group of suspicions ranked one after the other. This does seem more like an excuse than a reason to vote for me.

[Morgoth]

how much time do we have left?

bah

[Jump Around]

I wanted to wait for Yellow/Vengeance/Kurt because of the 24 hours days and 0 hour nights.

If Gavin had hammered, then tomorrow's lynch (which is important, specially if Ment is inno) would be decided by Morgoth and Gavin, and if either (or both) is scum, that's not good.

Now is the time where we are all around, so I'll wait to see what they say, if nothing that impresses me I'll vote Ment.

[Gavin]

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 09:55 PM, said:

Gavin, on Mar 27 2009, 01:37 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 12:52 PM, said:

Morgoth, on Mar 27 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

Any idea who else the killer could be if not Mentalist?

Hm.. if not Ment then I think Gavin or Yellow might be it. Both have played the sort of background, half contributing sort of game that killers often stumble into. Yellow has picked up his act but whether that's because he got more time or feared he was taking it a bit too far I can' tell yet.

To explain my suspicions on Gavin I would have to make a case I think. For me that's the best way to order my thoughts, but I'll hold that off until day 5.

Sure start to set up tomorrows lynch? Hmm I like how confident you are you'll be around tomorrow as well.

You know Morgy thinking it through I'm really starting to convince myself your scum.

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Vote Morgoth

I'm making clear who my suspects are, so yes in a way I guess I am setting you up for a lynch, but then so are everyone else who present a group of suspicions ranked one after the other. This does seem more like an excuse than a reason to vote for me.

Making clear? Correct me if I'm wrong,but I believe this is the first time you've mention any suspicions against me at all. I just find it a little strange.

And there are plenty of reasons to vote you, I have been thinking it through and things with you just aren't adding up for me. I have already said why I'm not that keen on a Mentallist lynch, Veng has nothing really on him, so I am down to the person I find suspicious thats possible to be lynched and that is you and I have voted accordingly.

We got about a hour and a half left and I doubt we'd get a lynch on anyone outside Ment or you.

Especially with JA who in good conscience can only vote Mentallist? Which I was meant to bring up before. Why JA?

[Jump Around]

You mean "Why, JA"?

OK, I can recap:

- the "I didn't know about it. Now I know" comment when we were discussing the killer/symp mechanics. Like mentioned before, it's common for scum to feign ignorance of something they should know as scum, to sound inno. Bent did it in the game he was a killer by asking a few times whether the killer teams knew of each other or not. In Ment's case, that comment came out of nowhere, and I can't see why he would say it just to say it. I think he said it to make a "point"

- His coasting. I attacked him many times that he wasn't doing much in terms of playing, and he kept saying he was super busy and had computer problems. Yet he was (and still is) the highest poster in this thread.

- His Bubba voting antics. He brought it to minutes from the lynch before hammer, because he wanted to hear from me. And when I asked him what if I had said "Meh", he answered he would have hammered Bubba anyways. So what's the point? Why take that chance of missing the lynch and forcing us to lynch Bubba the next day? Also, didn't he have computer problems recently? I explained the two reasons I can think a player would do this, and they both point to him as being scum.

That's it, if you have something more than "X is still alive" or "X plays kinda iffy", I'm all ears

[Gavin]

Damn what happened to Veng and Kurt? Both were viewing the thread and now they have disappeared.
Looking like an hour to go. So you wouldn't switch to Morgoth to get the lynch there JA?

[Vengeance]

Ok I am here. Frankly I could go either way in regards to lynching Morgy or Mental. Both seem to be playing slightly off. I think that it comes down to whether I buy Mentals excuses for not seeing the set up after bent had gone back and fixed it. His bit with Bubba waiting for ever to vote was strange. But to me if he was scum he would have hammered not waffled.
Morgy has been playing slightly off. He got rid of Grief cause he doesn't like spammers, he got rid of dibs cause that is what morgy does if he is a killer. Dkt was just cream on the top. I think that the killer is Morgy.


Vote Morgoth

[Vengeance]

Some times the evidence is just the evidence. Nothing more.

[Vengeance]

Hmmmm I saw JA for a second. I wonder if he will hammer Morgy or just let it time out.

[Jump Around]

Gavin, on Mar 27 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

Damn what happened to Veng and Kurt? Both were viewing the thread and now they have disappeared.
Looking like an hour to go. So you wouldn't switch to Morgoth to get the lynch there JA?

Make me a case and I might.

The only case I've seen is based on the fact that we're partners, so sorry if I call bullshit. Actually, if Morgoth was killer, he would have killed me last night, not dktorode. Me dying at night would prove dktorode wrong and eliminate the only case on him that appeared, whereas killing dktorode just increased the pressure on him.

Unless you're arguing he's keeping me alive to toy with me, but then he's a sick bastard

[Gavin]

About an hour to go I think, guess we'll see what happens.

Be nice to see Yellow or Kurt M to show. He was reading before for a while, dunno why he didn't post.

[Jump Around]

Vengeance, on Mar 27 2009, 03:47 PM, said:

Hmmmm I saw JA for a second. I wonder if he will hammer Morgy or just let it time out.

If there's a L-1 and my vote is needed, my vote will be cast. Keep your attitude out.

Specially with

Vengeance, on Mar 27 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

Morgy has been playing slightly off. He got rid of Grief cause he doesn't like spammers, he got rid of dibs cause that is what morgy does if he is a killer. Dkt was just cream on the top. I think that the killer is Morgy.

That your case?

[Jump Around]

Hmmm, tough choice. The last thing I want to be is Morgoth's bitch, specially if he's the killer.

Then again if we nail the killer, we buy some time, so lynch me tomorrow if it pisses you I hesitate to lynch him and that I'm still alive

[Vengeance]

Jump Around, on Mar 27 2009, 08:48 AM, said:

Gavin, on Mar 27 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

Damn what happened to Veng and Kurt? Both were viewing the thread and now they have disappeared.
Looking like an hour to go. So you wouldn't switch to Morgoth to get the lynch there JA?

Make me a case and I might.

The only case I've seen is based on the fact that we're partners, so sorry if I call bullshit. Actually, if Morgoth was killer, he would have killed me last night, not dktorode. Me dying at night would prove dktorode wrong and eliminate the only case on him that appeared, whereas killing dktorode just increased the pressure on him.

Unless you're arguing he's keeping me alive to toy with me, but then he's a sick bastard

If morgy killed you and you came up innocent then Dkt probably would have said that you were a symp and still gone for Morgy. As it is with you alive he can split the votes. After all at this stage of the game one of you have to be scum. Morgy has an ego the size of Moons spawn and you know that he wouldn't be past trying to keep you alive and be the killer. He is twisted enough to think that he is good enough to do that. Grief had to go cause Morgy hates spam. Dibs had to go cause he is Dibs. Dkt could be taken away because then Morgy could just say that it is WIFOM and he would never kill someone who had fingered him. However he also learned from ST that sometimes it works to take out the people who are attacking you the loudest. So based on the NK's and the fact that this is the second straight soso case that Morgy has managed to run. If he isn't the killer then he is at least the symp.