[Aptorian]

God Fucking Dammit!

I just played 15 minutes then the game started to tell me that it wasn't recognising any of my game saves. I could quick save or do a regular save but checking I couldn't reload those saves because there were none. I closed the game and tried starting it up again. Now the game crashes every time I start it. It doesn't even get to the games menu!

RAAAAAGEEEE!!!

EDIT: Tried toying with some of the launch thingies in the steam folder. No luck.

I'm guessing I'll have to reinstall the whole damn game. At least I found the save folder. And it is not empty which is a relief.

This post has been edited by Aptorian: 15 July 2010 - 07:39 AM

[ansible]

Damn, that's terrible. I had the game crash on me quite a few times, but never had any problems with saves.

[Aptorian]

Whooo it's working again.

Tried doing a back-up and deleting the local content and re-installing it. Didn't work.

Tried deleteing everything and re-installing from the steam server. Didn't work.

Then I took a look in the save folder. Tried deleting the newest quick save and hard save and apparently that worked. Cause it's working now.

Fuck yes.

I would have been really pissed if I didn't get to play the last two levels.

[Aptorian]

Finally got through. Had a little cry. The good ending was very mushy and sad.

Now that I am through I don't understand the criticism. This game is better in every way than the original was. The only that it may be missing is the originality, Rapture is no longer new, the powers and mobs are now familiar. But I loved the first and I thought this was an improvement all around.

I thought the story was much better than the first one. You got to see a lot of the historical places, I especially liked Fontaine futuristics. I also thought that the clash between Ryans extreme capitalism and Lambs zealous communism was fascinating. Two completely insane world views clashing with disastrous results.

Has anyone done the evil storyline instead? Harvesting the Little Sisters? Killing the Key characters? Etc.

Spoiler

I was thrilled when you learn that Elanor has been watching your every move and your decisions decide what kind of character she becomes. She was a merciful but strong warrior after I did my good ending saving everyone but the crazy guy who asked you to kill him.

I imagine that Elanor would become quite scary if you did the evil story line.

Changing subjects, one of my favorite parts was getting to play as a Little Sister. It was awesome seeing the world through the little ones eyes

Now I'm off to begin Mass Effect 2, been looking forward to this.

This post has been edited by Aptorian: 28 July 2010 - 05:17 PM

[Tarcanus]

I finished the game last night, too. I was a bit underwhelmed at the action in the final area, but the story was superb, so I wasn't bummed.

The only thing that I should have done was to stand still when listening to the audio diaries. I caught a lot of what was being said, but the stupid splicers constantly respawning in each area usually interrupted my listening and made me lose track of the story, at times.

I have to say that the Fountain of Youth and Drill Vampire tonics are amazing. I love starting to feel like a demi-god near the end-game when you have so many ways to heal and kick ass that you feel unstoppable.

Spoiler

And then you have to fight 2 Big Sisters at once and you have an 'oh fuck' moment.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

My second run through will have the vita chambers turned off. That's going to be a whole different experience.

[Aptorian]

Tarcanus, on 28 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

I finished the game last night, too. I was a bit underwhelmed at the action in the final area, but the story was superb, so I wasn't bummed.

I agree, I was actually going to mention it above.

Spoiler

In a way I thought that it was nice. The way the story was going, a big bad boss fight wasn't really in the cards. Lamb was counting on Elanor and her own smarts to win and she would won if it wasn't for Elanor.

But on the other hand, it just doesn't feel right ending a game with out a proper balls to the wall fight of epic proportions. They should have had some kind of super splicer or giant robot octopus or something attack you.

Tarcanus, on 28 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

The only thing that I should have done was to stand still when listening to the audio diaries. I caught a lot of what was being said, but the stupid splicers constantly respawning in each area usually interrupted my listening and made me lose track of the story, at times.

There was actually something that confused me about those audio recordings. Maybe I just missed something, but:

Spoiler

In the beginning of the game you heard of some guy searching for his daughter. She'd been turned into a Little Sister and he was trying to find some way to save her. What happened to that guy? I was actually kind of suspicious that this was who you were before you became a Big Daddy. But as far as I recall, the guy searching for his daughter was seen or heard in present time wasn't he? I think I recall hearing him behind a door at one point.

So if he wasn't you, what happened to him, did I miss an audio recording or message some where?

Tarcanus, on 28 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

I have to say that the Fountain of Youth and Drill Vampire tonics are amazing. I love starting to feel like a demi-god near the end-game when you have so many ways to heal and kick ass that you feel unstoppable.

Yeah, that plus the damage research tonic, the elemental vampire tonic, armor skin 2 tonic, etc. makes you pretty fucking badass. In the end I had so much money that I could buy all the ammo I wanted, so I just rocket launchered and fire bombed everything I encountered.

Tarcanus, on 28 July 2010 - 08:35 PM, said:

Spoiler

And then you have to fight 2 Big Sisters at once and you have an 'oh fuck' moment.

This was actually a relatively easy battle for me. Just used ice and rocket spears and grenade mines.

Raymond Luxury Yacht, on 28 July 2010 - 09:00 PM, said:

My second run through will have the vita chambers turned off. That's going to be a whole different experience.

The Vita chambers, like in the first game, ruins any feeling of desperation and worry about losing that I had. Even the little sisters respawn with you when you die.

I remember in the first game I cheated and when I had to fight a big daddy I just lured him to a Vita chamber and just shot gunned him until he killed me and then I shot gunned him some more. Rince and repeat.

This time around I was disciplined enough to fight fair, but honestly, the Big Daddies where a lot easier to fight this time around. Last game they were like mini-boses now they were easily managed with plasmids and armor piercing rounds.

[Tarcanus]

Aptorian, on 29 July 2010 - 06:50 AM, said:

There was actually something that confused me about those audio recordings. Maybe I just missed something, but:

Spoiler

In the beginning of the game you heard of some guy searching for his daughter. She'd been turned into a Little Sister and he was trying to find some way to save her. What happened to that guy? I was actually kind of suspicious that this was who you were before you became a Big Daddy. But as far as I recall, the guy searching for his daughter was seen or heard in present time wasn't he? I think I recall hearing him behind a door at one point.

So if he wasn't you, what happened to him, did I miss an audio recording or message some where?

Spoiler

That guy was named Mark Meltzer, and he did indeed come to Rapture looking for his daughter, Cindy. If you remember the 'There's Something in the Sea" promotion before the game was launched - that website with all of the newspaper cuttings on the map - I think that was meant to be Mark Meltzer's study and him trying to find his daughter. Anyway, I think there is one audio log where Meltzer finds Cindy, but she's already a Little Sister and a Big Sister finds him. Then later there's one where Lamb tries to convince him to become a Big Daddy so he can be with Cindy forever. I forget if he goes for it or not. I think he chose to die trying to save her, but I'm not certain.

In response to Vita-Chambers, I forgot to turn them off, but never used them anyway, preferring to re-load a save. With the frantic pace of some of the battles, I wasted tons of ammo trying to hit Big Sisters and whatnot. Respawning in the Vita-Chamber waste pretty much a waste of the ammo I already spent and would cost me more money in the long run buying it back. I personally think it's financially irresponsible to use the Vita-Chambers, lol.

[ansible]

Spoiler

Mark Meltzer does choose to become a Big Daddy to stay with his daughter, and you can kill him/rescue her in Fontaine Futuristics.

As far as the audio logs, I felt there were very few that advanced the story or even were remotely interesting. For instance, in the original, there was Sander Cohen's "The Wild Bunny" and Steinman's "Limits of Imagination"; but not a single log from the sequel sticks out in my mind. However, one of the few things that Bioshock 2 does bettter is the ending; that is, there actually is one instead of just nothing.

[Tarcanus]

ansible, on 29 July 2010 - 02:39 PM, said:

Spoiler

Mark Meltzer does choose to become a Big Daddy to stay with his daughter, and you can kill him/rescue her in Fontaine Futuristics.

As far as the audio logs, I felt there were very few that advanced the story or even were remotely interesting. For instance, in the original, there was Sander Cohen's "The Wild Bunny" and Steinman's "Limits of Imagination"; but not a single log from the sequel sticks out in my mind. However, one of the few things that Bioshock 2 does bettter is the ending; that is, there actually is one instead of just nothing.

What? You didn't like the log where Eleanor starts breaking shit? Or the one where Eleanor begins taking apart the audio diary while she's talking into it? Good stuff.

[ansible]

The one where she takes it apart was alright; the one with the dishes was boring. I thought most of her entries were boring.

[Tarcanus]

ansible, on 29 July 2010 - 02:47 PM, said:

The one where she takes it apart was alright; the one with the dishes was boring. I thought most of her entries were boring.

I thought the ones where she was talking about the 'dog eater' Amir were fairly bland, but the ones where she interacted with Lamb or reacted to something Lamb told her were good characterization for Lamb's character.