[Telas]

Mockra, on Mar 11 2009, 04:25 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 11 2009, 11:11 PM, said:

2 killer teams, 1 symp knows both

or

2 killers, 2-3 symps, know both

i'm assuming the scum number 4-5, because as general rule scum compose about a quarter of the players, and if we go with 6, as some proposed, that's a third, which is too much even with the chances of mutual kills, imho

There are also people who judge 1/3 the proper division. Mentalist, for one. Question is not what seems the general rule, but what Obdi judges amusing and suitable for tdmi 2.
Moreover, to kick in an open door, it suits you very well to reason there's only 4 scum, especially 1 killer + symp per team, as that pleads for you being a VPI. Scum craves that status as it allows them the freedom to go about their business unhindered (another thing that goes without saying).

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lol, w/e, its pretty obvious a bunch of you are hell bent on lynching me. I'm roleless, so I couldn't care less--at least you're not looking at a foinder/healer.

Nice mentality there... 'I don't give a shit if I get lynched, I'm not important anyway.' Attitude like that for half of us town and we could as well stop playing right now.

Also, what I still don't understand: you never seemed to care to bring up any arguments (like the modkill) as a reason for not lynching day 1, iirc. Yet you mention it now. As I said at the start of day 2, you should have a PoV on whether or not a lynch in general on day 1 would be adviseable. You never mentioned it, you never seemed to care, but did take the time to devote a post or three to the coin flip. Meh.

I don't want to repeat yesterday in having a fast lynch, but I'm very happy to vote for you again today.

the underlined part's a misconception
I mentioned that due to a modkill, no lynch wouldn't be tragic towards the end of the day.
I also wrote that without CF, lynches lose some of their value for us, esp day 1 lynches.

the "view user's posts" button is there for a reason you know.
or are you just going off the selected posts GL "provided" for you at the beginning of day 1?

honestly, how many of you actually BOTHERED to go back to the end of the day and read everyhting I wrote?
lol, GL didn't quote my every post, only the ones that fit the image of me he wanted to perpetuate--a high-post, no-content player with no opinion on anyhting.

which, of course, is different from me simply being unsure, but who cares, right?

and no, I do care that you lynch me--since it'd be a waste.
but I am comforted in the fact that if you lynch me you wouldn't be making a bigger mistake--though it's not he optimal choice either, lol

[Telas]

incidentally, since i'm accused of being Silanah's symp (or fake-symp), how does me stipulating there are only killer-symp pairs (which I don't, btw--I just said that I expect the symps to know both teams) make me a VPI?

[Kaschan]

Dead thread is dead -.-

[Serc]

Kaschan, on Mar 11 2009, 03:10 PM, said:

Dead thread is dead -.-

And likely to stay that way, at this time of real-life day.

[Telas]

i'm here, still

[Korlat]

humdidum..

lecture, job interview, lecture, job interview 2, pub, watchmen, pub.. I'm going to bed. I'll read the thread tomorow morning. Just thought's jou all aprciate knowing that I'm alsive is all.

[Anomandaris]

Korlat, on Mar 11 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

humdidum..

lecture, job interview, lecture, job interview 2, pub, watchmen, pub.. I'm going to bed. I'll read the thread tomorow morning. Just thought's jou all aprciate knowing that I'm alsive is all.

You know, I am going to do something I should have done at the start of the day, we think at best Telas is symp right? Well, how about we find out who the killers are and lynch them, sure keep an eye on Telas and if we get into trouble lynch him, but for now I think

Voting Korlat

Is the best chance at actually hitting a killer. Glad to see you are still alive scum, but if I get my way you wont be for long.

[D'riss]

Anomandaris, on Mar 11 2009, 09:23 PM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 11 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

humdidum..

lecture, job interview, lecture, job interview 2, pub, watchmen, pub.. I'm going to bed. I'll read the thread tomorow morning. Just thought's jou all aprciate knowing that I'm alsive is all.

You know, I am going to do something I should have done at the start of the day, we think at best Telas is symp right? Well, how about we find out who the killers are and lynch them, sure keep an eye on Telas and if we get into trouble lynch him, but for now I think

Voting Korlat

Is the best chance at actually hitting a killer. Glad to see you are still alive scum, but if I get my way you wont be for long.

You sure got a bug up your ass over Korlat. Do you have a case made you could point too?

[Telas]

hey, D'riss is back
anyone you suspect (aside from my humble self?)

[Anomandaris]

D'riss, on Mar 11 2009, 09:28 PM, said:

You sure got a bug up your ass over Korlat. Do you have a case made you could point too?

No, but I can make one real quick - Since the start of day 1 he's had no reservations about who we lynch. Well, heres an interesting bit-

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Mar 9 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

I am all alone now.

Well since so many people have tried to side track my case on Korlat But I shall not be turned away from the truth.

Come forth Korlat and answer the accusation that I have put forth.

Starting with

1. You are scum (reason being delusions of being a god like being)

2. That you are scum (Failure to defend your self)

That is all that I have so far but I shall be looking for further confirmation of my accusations.

1. It is actually you who is the scum.

2. If I was scum, would you – who's scum – accuse me of being a scum when me being lynched for being a scum would not be in your scummy interest because you are scum?

I think not.

Now, I didn't see this before, but no one knew that scum would be "together" until much much later day 1. Yet this says that he thinks that scum on team 1 wouldn't want to kill scum on team 2 because it wouldn't be in their best interest. Interesting, but back to the case.

While I was doing my catch-up I posted 2 posts that were odd. Korlat was convinced

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 06:32 PM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 9 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 9 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 9 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

ok now that galain's here it's pointless.

remove vote

Right after Galain appears Tennes removes vote, trying not to look suspicious maybe? 2 pages left.

just came back from my shower and saw this.

do you know how to read? i voted galain to try and get him lynched before he posted. if he posts, all the fun is gone. wow.

well, that is by far the scummiest answer I've seen so far.

Combined with the spamming of the last few pages, Tennes is climbing to the top of my suspect ladder. It's early yet, but he seems a good candidate.

Tennes

Then leaving his vote on Tennes (based on my post mind you) he asks me why I wont vote if I find him so questionable, I explain that it wasn't vote worthy and I didn't want to start a train (based on one lousy post) and he says I am now scummy and switches to me( add to that that I called him bloodthirsty and "labeled" him early and it would be hard to shake that label.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 06:57 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 10 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 10 2009, 12:54 AM, said:

or how about you stop symping me,

yeah, well, if you hadn't magically changed your posting times to match mine, you'd be on thin ice

who do you think I am?

I don't know. ... Spartacus?

anyways, we're letting Anomandaris off the hook. I don't like it..

In fact, I find him more suspicious than Tennes at this point.

Anomandaris

Now he and Telas start questioning my motives (Telas in a kind, loving caring way, lol, Anomander in a you scummy McScum face way). Pushing, at the time I was too busy answering questions to really think this through, but maybe my bloodthirsty remark hit a bit too close to home. You see it was the vote for my case and susequent pressure on me that made me see a bloodthirsty killer.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 12:57 AM, said:

One more point, why hhaven't you asked why I din't vote for Gamelon? I believe that "case" to be the stronger of the two? hmm.

Edit": added O to IMO

That might have something to do with, I don't know, you showing some suspicion of Tennes whereas Gamelon's case was an obvious joke? .. but perhaps I'm just being slow.

Disregaurds my Game post and says it was a joke. And yes, I believe he was being slow

part two upcoming.

[D'riss]

Anomandaris, on Mar 11 2009, 09:56 PM, said:

D'riss, on Mar 11 2009, 09:28 PM, said:

You sure got a bug up your ass over Korlat. Do you have a case made you could point too?

No, but I can make one real quick - Since the start of day 1 he's had no reservations about who we lynch. Well, heres an interesting bit-

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 04:35 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Mar 9 2009, 03:13 PM, said:

I am all alone now.

Well since so many people have tried to side track my case on Korlat But I shall not be turned away from the truth.

Come forth Korlat and answer the accusation that I have put forth.

Starting with

1. You are scum (reason being delusions of being a god like being)

2. That you are scum (Failure to defend your self)

That is all that I have so far but I shall be looking for further confirmation of my accusations.

1. It is actually you who is the scum.

2. If I was scum, would you – who's scum – accuse me of being a scum when me being lynched for being a scum would not be in your scummy interest because you are scum?

I think not.

Now, I didn't see this before, but no one knew that scum would be "together" until much much later day 1. Yet this says that he thinks that scum on team 1 wouldn't want to kill scum on team 2 because it wouldn't be in their best interest. Interesting, but back to the case.

While I was doing my catch-up I posted 2 posts that were odd. Korlat was convinced

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 06:32 PM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 9 2009, 04:59 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 9 2009, 05:51 PM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 9 2009, 04:57 PM, said:

ok now that galain's here it's pointless.

remove vote

Right after Galain appears Tennes removes vote, trying not to look suspicious maybe? 2 pages left.

just came back from my shower and saw this.

do you know how to read? i voted galain to try and get him lynched before he posted. if he posts, all the fun is gone. wow.

well, that is by far the scummiest answer I've seen so far.

Combined with the spamming of the last few pages, Tennes is climbing to the top of my suspect ladder. It's early yet, but he seems a good candidate.

Tennes

Then leaving his vote on Tennes (based on my post mind you) he asks me why I wont vote if I find him so questionable, I explain that it wasn't vote worthy and I didn't want to start a train (based on one lousy post) and he says I am now scummy and switches to me( add to that that I called him bloodthirsty and "labeled" him early and it would be hard to shake that label.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 06:57 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 10 2009, 12:55 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 05:54 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 10 2009, 12:54 AM, said:

or how about you stop symping me,

yeah, well, if you hadn't magically changed your posting times to match mine, you'd be on thin ice

who do you think I am?

I don't know. ... Spartacus?

anyways, we're letting Anomandaris off the hook. I don't like it..

In fact, I find him more suspicious than Tennes at this point.

Anomandaris

Now he and Telas start questioning my motives (Telas in a kind, loving caring way, lol, Anomander in a you scummy McScum face way). Pushing, at the time I was too busy answering questions to really think this through, but maybe my bloodthirsty remark hit a bit too close to home. You see it was the vote for my case and susequent pressure on me that made me see a bloodthirsty killer.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 12:57 AM, said:

One more point, why hhaven't you asked why I din't vote for Gamelon? I believe that "case" to be the stronger of the two? hmm.

Edit": added O to IMO

That might have something to do with, I don't know, you showing some suspicion of Tennes whereas Gamelon's case was an obvious joke? .. but perhaps I'm just being slow.

Disregaurds my Game post and says it was a joke. And yes, I believe he was being slow

part two upcoming.

I hope it is better than part one,

cause I don't see anything in part one

[D'riss]

Telas, on Mar 11 2009, 09:43 PM, said:

hey, D'riss is back
anyone you suspect (aside from my humble self?)

Your not off the hook, but I am removing my vote untill tomorrow

remove vote

Suspects? anyone not dead.

J/k going to do a reread of the last 30+ hrs later tonight.

[Anomandaris]

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:08 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 01:05 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:00 PM, said:

Now why would an innocent do that? I don't see it.

I wasn't trying to invalidate you, it just isn't a naturally inno thing to do, to vote someone and then question the person whos "case" you are following.

But it's not natural to try to use unpopular labels like that. They can be damn effective. I've used them both as a killer and as a symp in the past to get people's arguments out of the way. I've never ever done so as an innocent. It just reeks of scum to me, more so than anything I've seen so far and that includes Tennes.

Says me labeling him is scummy because of course only scum use the term bloodthirsty!

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 01:32 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Mar 10 2009, 01:21 AM, said:

I see pushing for a vote on someone as acting symp like considering its not their master..

Then you're reading it wrong. You see me pushing for the reason behind not voting, and then you see pushing at things about the answer I don't like. Anomandaris can get into as much of a huff as he wants, it's still an effective tactic pulling people out.

Whats an effective tactic? posting 2 questionable posts and then saying this?

Anomandaris, on Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

Well, thats all I found in the spam that I am sorry I missed. Anyway those 2 are on top of my list, but i won't vote right now until someone gets on to discuss.

As to your last post, yes yes, I called you bloodthirsty, you didn't like it, got it. hey heres a new lable for you to carry around "DICK BAG"

you're welcome.

It must be hard being forced to tackle allegations in mafia games. My heart goes out to you. It truly does. I'll try not to call you out on anything until I get a pm from PS saying that you're definitly scum. You know, just so that I don't question someone who might possibly turn out to be innocent. Imagine how terrible that would be. I couldn't bear the shame.

Heres the "reveal" post. See how he uses sarcasm to disregaurd everything I say and then things get messy.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 01:39 AM, said:

Galain, on Mar 9 2009, 07:38 PM, said:

ah ok, thanks.

Could this be a jester type of move? Because I don't know why someone would just post no, it isn't funny and it doesn't help anyone, especially the poster.

Now why would you think there is a jester, the roles where given to us in the OP?

Ah, I didn't notice it from all the fuming wink.gif

It would seem to me that you'd gotten the discussion you craved more readily if you'd put down a vote. That was what I asked you about right at first.

This post and the next make no sense, its as if he isn't even reading the thread, just attacking blindly

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:43 PM, said:

D'riss, on Mar 10 2009, 01:41 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:34 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 01:32 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Mar 10 2009, 01:21 AM, said:

I see pushing for a vote on someone as acting symp like considering its not their master..

Then you're reading it wrong. You see me pushing for the reason behind not voting, and then you see pushing at things about the answer I don't like. AnomandarisJolt can get into as much of a huff as he wants, it's still an effective tactic pulling people out.

Whats an effective tactic? posting 2 questionable posts and then saying this?

Anomandaris, on Mar 9 2009, 05:56 PM, said:

Well, thats all I found in the spam that I am sorry I missed. Anyway those 2 are on top of my list, but i won't vote right now until someone gets on to discuss.

As to your last post, yes yes, I called you bloodthirsty, you didn't like it, got it. hey heres a new lable for you to carry around "DICK BAG"

you're welcome.

It must be hard being forced to tackle allegations in mafia games. My heart goes out to you. It truly does. I'll try not to call you out on anything until I get a pm from PS saying that you're definitly scum. You know, just so that I don't question someone who might possibly turn out to be innocent. Imagine how terrible that would be. I couldn't bear the shame.

Are you really revealing "finder" this early?



I call "Shenanigans"

Well, at least my vote for you has some kind of content to it, but sure, go ahead.

See, his vote is on ME!


3rd installment upcoming

[Anomandaris]

Here is his response

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:46 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Mar 10 2009, 01:44 AM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:43 PM, said:

Well, at least my vote for you has some kind of content to it, but sure, go ahead.

WTF? Your vote is on me. dude, wheres your car dude?

heh, I managed to quote the wrong post. I meant to quote yours.. Ah well, too late now.

right, that answers on bad post and ignores the other

Now he "goes to bed and then realises "oh shit, Driss caught me fake revealing, here is what happens

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 09:02 PM, said:

I get up for a piss, check the thread and find people thinking I made a finder reveal? Read the tone of the post for christ sake. How can you possibly read that line, in the context of the rest of the text, as some kind of attempted reveal.

Sarcasm on the internet, I guess smilies must be used in copious amounts.

I noticed some other stuff in regards to me too, but I'll answer that tomorow.

personally I think he put that"reveal" in there to say later in the game he was a finder if he got in trouble.

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 09:26 PM, said:

Telas, on Mar 10 2009, 03:21 AM, said:

lol
exactly
after that BP satellite reveal of his, I trust no one.

well, I guess I should have foreseen how such a post could make some people vote for me (though I hardly see the logic of it as I've explained), though I still find the interpretation of that post somewhat absurd.

People find it easy I guess, to be suspicious of the aggressive players and thus use things for more than their real value. Yet, if you look at previous games, the aggressive players are generally those who produce results. I'm sorry if I offend peoples delicate sensibilities, but I'm not going to adapt my playing style because some people shy away from conflict.

Now I have to go to bed.

Glad that problem is solved, 30 minutes after his piss, he heads to bed, again. Now comes the shit, hes had all night to think about it and he thinks he has this game on lock down, here is his post, not this is after Sil defended the shit out of him, and f course he doesn't need THAT kind of attention

Korlat, on Mar 10 2009, 06:12 AM, said:

what is the matter with you people? Well, some of you anyways. Kaschan, especially, is being more than a bit purposeful in his absolute belief that my post was some sort of reveal (which no rational being should be able to read as a finder reveal. Unfortunately worded perhaps, but no finder reveal. Gawd). It's quite ridiculous..

It was not a reveal, the post itself should tell you that quite clearly, the time in the game should tell you that quite clearly, logic should tell you that quite clearly. Kaschan's claim that no one can trust me is not true unless it's accepted as fact that what I did was some kind of reveal and the person trying his best to get it accepted as such seems to be Kaschan. Repeating over and over again my post as a reveal in a certain tone.

And Rashan, your argument makes no sense in a game such as this. Hinting towards roles as blatantly as that is not a valid tactic, especially not in a non cf game with two killer teams. If I'd known people would get their panties tied in a knot over something as ridiculous as this I would've just used a phrase like "when hell freezes over" instead of "when obdi sends me a pm telling me you're scum" which would equally incorporate the meaning I sought to capture.

Anyways, this has been very informative nevertheless.

I am quite certain now that Anomandaris is a killer. I don't think the game would've caught quite the same momentum, nor do I think an inno would get as flustered over a bit of pressure as did he. Then there's the bloodthirsty comment too. Of all my choices, Anomandaris is the player of who's alignment I am as close to certain as I can be this early.

His companion I'm quite sure of, is Silanah, who's making an effort to be as far from Anomandaris' camp as possible. Galayn Lord made a very good point about Silanah's playing, defending me like that in a non-cf game is odd like hell, and considering how the game had split, he tried a third option that would, as I said, place him on the complete opposite side of the field from Anomandaris, more so than anyone else. Apart from that the two have stayed out of each others ways completely. Anomandaris is the visible one, Silanah a bit more withdrawn.

Kaschan is a symp. OF this I'm quite convinced and though people will think this WIFOM, I don't really care. Notice how he continues to insist posting about my reveal as if it was a certainty when clearly it is not. Again and again and again he does so, working very hard to cement me as someone who's lying at every turn and should be ignored. An innocent would not do this, but Kaschan does not give me a killer feel, ergo symp.

I'm not sure what team he belongs too – I assume the distribution is 2-1 2-1 killer-symp each team – but that's hardly very important.

So there you are. I'm keeping my vote for Anomandaris until we get a vote count. I'd be willing to switch for Silanah. D'riss however I'm not so convinced about.

So he links me, his top suspect, with Sil, the person with the most votes at the time, and says Kas is our symp? why Kas, lets go back a little bit

Korlat, on Mar 9 2009, 07:26 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Mar 10 2009, 01:21 AM, said:

I see pushing for a vote on someone as acting symp like considering its not their master..

Then you're reading it wrong. You see me pushing for the reason behind not voting, and then you see pushing at things about the answer I don't like. Anomandaris can get into as much of a huff as he wants, it's still an effective tactic pulling people out.

When Telas and Anomander where questioning me Kas pipes in and says hes pushing the vote on me, hmmm, curious.

Korlat, on Mar 10 2009, 06:47 AM, said:

Rashan, on Mar 10 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Mar 10 2009, 10:40 AM, said:

Rashan, on Mar 10 2009, 05:36 AM, said:

tbh i only read the bit about me smile.gif

Why?

You dont care he has to say about anyone else?
Seems like self preservation is all you have on your mind...hmmmm.

given who he is, no not really. but on a more serious note, i am busy and have said my piece, unliek the rest of you i dont intend to talk complete crap about every little thing on thread even when it has no relevance to finding scum. if i see something i find interesting i will highlight it. as for self preservation, keep talking kesso i may eventually get round to noticign you yet.

so you have nothing to say in regards to my interpretation of the game? About my opinions regarding anomandaris, Silanah and Kaschan?

pushy pushy?

4th coming up, damn quote tag limits

[Telas]

interesting

i'm off to make some food

back in 15

[Tennes]

at this point i'm willing to consider d'riss, telas, or korlat; anyone else who appears and does something suspicious will also enter my radar. in the meantime, however, i'm going to bed (right after snatching the new south park episode of course). ano, i'll read the rest of your case in the morning.

gnight all.

[Anomandaris]

Korlat, on Mar 10 2009, 05:22 PM, said:

D'riss, on Mar 10 2009, 11:13 PM, said:

Korlat, on Mar 10 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

And Silanah is the best option. At least better than Korlat, who's a terribly misunderstood but good man.

If you were lying any lower today the roots from the grass would be tickling your nose doh.gif

Yesterday I was not busy and in a not of best moods, today I am in equally if not worse mood but have more to do. So, better then to lay low for a little while, I've given enough of myself to this thread for you to judge my alignment many times over. At least compared to most others here.

After the heat, and since then he has basically vanished.

I wont bother with more quotes, most of you don't like the wall of texts and wont be bothered to read it.

Key points first post, Korlat already knew that team evil would want to stick together. As if he knew their winning conditions. He picked me out while voting for my "case", and then attacked, he got heat and ran away, then came back to piss and defended himself until the heat was removed, he then links me with sil who has the most votes. Since the sil thing I haven't been mentioned once, as a matter of fact I don't think he suspects anyone anymore. Typical lay low since the pressure is already on Telas. Hope the pub was fun scum, you wont be celebrting your victory much longer if I have anything to say about it.

[Telas]

hmm
Did Korlat end up voting Silanah day 1?

Since I ended day 1 voting korlat, i've obviously got no problem with lynching him off

but i'm still mighty curious why the hell Sil PI-ed him...

This post has been edited by Telas: 12 March 2009 - 02:50 AM

[Telas]

yawn
dead thread's dead

i'm going to bed

good night, y'all

[Serc]

Telas, on Mar 11 2009, 07:44 PM, said:

hmm
Did Korlat end up voting Silanah day 1?

Since I ended day 1 voting korlat, i've obviously got no problem with lynching him off

but i'm still mighty curious why the hell Sil PI-ed him...

Paired Innos, perhaps?

Korlat, Silanah, and, well, you - a cluster of odd behavior that fits scum more than Innos. And yet ... it makes more sense for Silanah and Korlat to be Inno than scum. I'm regretting my Silanah vote in retrospect, though it felt right at the time. Those two Kills last Night were pretty conclusive that Silanah wasn't a Killer, which would mean that you aren't a Symp, and which would make Silanah's defense of Korlat more of a good-faith effort to defend an Inno.

I point this out because I think Ano's case on Korlat is weak, no matter how lengthy. At least, it doesn't convince me. And it's strange that Ano said he's glad Korlat is still alive, so that Ano can pursue them. That sounds a bit forced - like someone trying to convince the other players of something like "Oh, good, now I can take this guy down - everyone watch and see what a great team player I am."