[Anomandaris]

Well, I for one am confident that Korlat was scum. And I will remain so until spoilers tell me otherwise, for those of you who wondered why I was so narrow sighted. Maybe had everyone listened to me he would have been lynched day 1 and Sil day 2, but thats over and done, so I agree I do need to look forward. So how about a list

Anomandaris (me) - Possible symp to Telas, according to GL, I have been tunnel visioned on Korlat the entire game.
Telas - Possible Killer, that I am symping. Has been the top poster the whole game and the only major standout in all of that is his coin-flip
Serc - Unknown, has been flying way under the radar. i haven't looked to see if his claims of contribution are accurate, but I will today
Mockra - Another relatively unknown, although I seem to remember Mockra helping when needed. I will have to look back over his posts and see wh that is.
Kaschan - Seems to be slightly lost this game, may or may not be a newbie.
D'riss - Had a "finder reveal" moment, since then has played pretty solid, nearly middle of the roading at times.
Tennes - Unknown might be lumped in the Serc, Mockra group as far as I am concerned.
Galayn Lord - Supposed Finder, could be running the show, but with no other reveal, this isn't likely.

Thats my run-down. Anyone have anything to add? I,personally want to look back for any Korlat team mates. I am thinking Galain was on a team and Korlat was n another team, but i think we still have Korlats partner to find. Current top 3 suspects

Serc
Tennes
Mockra

only because of lack of contributions (we all know I never liked low-posters, lol).

[Galayn Lord]

"poor sod" is a fucking survivor for someone whode hide everybody wants since the end of day 1.

Everyday we get side-tracked, by players like Anomandaris, I think we've been played for fools.

[Galayn Lord]

So, Ano, you're certain that Telas' flip coin is the work of a symp?

[Galayn Lord]

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 01:25 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Why didn't you vote yesterday if you like the Telas case so much?

I'll go dig up the quote

And, unless I quote a PM to spoiler heaven, you can't get it.
I would have sworn that I had posted here. I can however give you Telas (post 1124) - found it on the re-read, so can't multiquote it in):

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well, now we have to wait for Emu..

Mockra's the other person who hasn't voted yet (aside from Korlat) and he seems pretty adament to see me lynched.

i'll check back in an hour or so.

So, at least the poor sod himself agrees with me that I want his hide

Mockra, I don't get this.

You wanted to vote Telas or not?

Because if you did, why did you expect you would have a quote explaining why you didn't vote him, quote that apparently became a spoiler heaven PM? What explanation were you expecting yourself to have put on thread?

[Anomandaris]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 08:20 AM, said:

So, Ano, you're certain that Telas' flip coin is the work of a symp?

no, but it was ballsy if hes a killer.

[Mockra]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 02:59 PM, said:

"poor sod" is a fucking survivor for someone whode hide everybody wants since the end of day 1.

Everyday we get side-tracked, by players like Anomandaris, I think we've been played for fools.

Yeah, there's that. Can't say I've been side tracked a lot though, but haven't made that many posts or put forth opinions myself.
I'm happy to see him swing.

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Anomandaris (me) - Possible symp to Telas, according to GL, I have been tunnel visioned on Korlat the entire game.
Telas - Possible Killer, that I am symping. Has been the top poster the whole game and the only major standout in all of that is his coin-flip
Serc - Unknown, has been flying way under the radar. i haven't looked to see if his claims of contribution are accurate, but I will today
Mockra - Another relatively unknown, although I seem to remember Mockra helping when needed. I will have to look back over his posts and see wh that is.
Kaschan - Seems to be slightly lost this game, may or may not be a newbie.
D'riss - Had a "finder reveal" moment, since then has played pretty solid, nearly middle of the roading at times.
Tennes - Unknown might be lumped in the Serc, Mockra group as far as I am concerned.
Galayn Lord - Supposed Finder, could be running the show, but with no other reveal, this isn't likely.

Now that's a nice list. Let's see if I can compile my own notes together into something comprehensive.

Anomandaris - sympish, but going for a single player all game long can also be a valid hide-out for a killer. Otherwise, not much of a read, apart from his language & temper, and both can be used to fake anger.

Telas - acted incredibly weird with the coin toss. Hasn't done anything but defending himself since. Could be a symp who's perfectly happy with that - it both draws attention away from possible killers and as long as he defends himself and isn't lynched, killers achieve their victory sooner. If a killer, he failed to get off the radar, but his symp(s) have removed attention effectively then. Likely to be lynched.

Serc - is all about statements. Doesn't much question or discuss, but states. In that, he resembles D'riss, but not in volume. Since statements don't invite discussion, he could be a killer hiding - don't believe he could be a symp.

Mockra - me. Have been silent mostly, chasing after Telas. The singular focus/ hide out I attribute to Anomandaris goes equally for me as well, I guess. Have also been riding GLs coat tails for most of the game.

Kaschan - seemed to have quite a lot of problems with the set-up and made a few misunderstandings there. According to my notes, mostly chasing after Korlat as well... wonder how he will play now that the object of his affection is dead. Killer hiding as a confused inno?

D'riss - aggressive at the start, bordering obnoxious. Has calmed down since, but not afraid to state his mind at all. If scum, he likes to be in control of the thread and is confident in his ability to maintain it. One of the people who seemed to be must-lynches on day 1... but his name surfaces less and less while he's still being in-your-face.

Tennes - lost in the fog of war. Can't get a read on the guy, my main priority for a re-read.

Galayn Lord - our finder, or someone able to lie and lead without getting nervous.

Of the people around, I have the most faith in GL. Think he's been sensible all game, and there's no counterclaim to his finder stuff at all.

For diametrically opposed reasons I believe I can so far trust in D'riss - because I believe that if he is scum, he will make a slip while acting as certain & arrogant as he does with his multiple angle stuff - and since he is so in-your-face, that slip is bound to happen and relatively easy to spot, and easy to rally people for a lynch.

I believe Telas must be today's lynch, and then I'll be curious who gets killed if the killing continues. Killer(s) must commit now, too, and reduce the number of hiding places they have. Kaschan, Serc and D'riss are the IGMEOY people aside from Telas for me, but with a need to re-read both Kaschan and Tennes.

[Mockra]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 03:24 PM, said:

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 01:25 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 02:09 PM, said:

Why didn't you vote yesterday if you like the Telas case so much?

I'll go dig up the quote

And, unless I quote a PM to spoiler heaven, you can't get it.
I would have sworn that I had posted here. I can however give you Telas (post 1124) - found it on the re-read, so can't multiquote it in):

Quote

well, now we have to wait for Emu..

Mockra's the other person who hasn't voted yet (aside from Korlat) and he seems pretty adament to see me lynched.

i'll check back in an hour or so.

So, at least the poor sod himself agrees with me that I want his hide

Mockra, I don't get this.

You wanted to vote Telas or not?

Because if you did, why did you expect you would have a quote explaining why you didn't vote him, quote that apparently became a spoiler heaven PM? What explanation were you expecting yourself to have put on thread?

Staying my hand to avoid another fast lynch.
I've been badly surprised by the ease in which we lynch long before deadline, and each time when I log on in the morning, it seems the game has gone to a new phase. With people so vote happy and a potential large amount of scum still in the game, speed lynches could be easily forced.
I warned about that before when Korlat was at -1, when I said we could potentially lose the game by a wrong lynch.

edit: and staying my hand because I'm always on relatively early in the day, before the US posse comes on, and away when they are.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 13 March 2009 - 12:37 PM

[Mockra]

Oh, ffs. 2 other lurkers online. Had hoped I could type an answer to the questions that would pop up on these answers, but it's not to be.
Back in 1 hour, after catching a train home.

[Galayn Lord]

Well, the three of us kinda agree on Tennes, should we try him?

[Galayn Lord]

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

Mockra - me. Have been silent mostly, chasing after Telas. The singular focus/ hide out I attribute to Anomandaris goes equally for me as well, I guess. Have also been riding GLs coat tails for most of the game.

I can confirm this, and it's been irking the hell out of me.

Is the kind of stuff that if Mockra is a killer, I go to spoiler heaven and read tens of posts saying I'm an idiot and eating in Mockra's hands.

Mockra, you give me a feeling you've been underplaying this game and you don't need any tails to ride normally. You give the work excuse, which there's nothing I can do against.

[Tennes]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 08:53 AM, said:

Well, the three of us kinda agree on Tennes, should we try him?

try me? make a case and i can refute it, but tbh i'm never much of a very aggressive player. half the time my cases/calls are correct, but no one bothers to listen. i've learned that from the past few games, so i'm keeping my thoughts to myself for now.

that and i don't have very unique/zomg moment reads on anyone. >.>

[Galayn Lord]

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

half the time my cases/calls are correct, but no one bothers to listen. i've learned that from the past few games, so i'm keeping my thoughts to myself for now.

Don't make me cry

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 13 March 2009 - 01:23 PM

[Mockra]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 03:56 PM, said:

Mockra, on Mar 13 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

Mockra - me. Have been silent mostly, chasing after Telas. The singular focus/ hide out I attribute to Anomandaris goes equally for me as well, I guess. Have also been riding GLs coat tails for most of the game.

I can confirm this, and it's been irking the hell out of me.

Is the kind of stuff that if Mockra is a killer, I go to spoiler heaven and read tens of posts saying I'm an idiot and eating in Mockra's hands.

Mockra, you give me a feeling you've been underplaying this game and you don't need any tails to ride normally. You give the work excuse, which there's nothing I can do against.

Yeah, work has been in my way, and I guess I now finally also experience what the Amerikanskis used to have each game 10 games back: a big empty void that stares you in the face when you make a post, because no-one is around. I've been less than brilliant this game, I readily admit, but for a large part, that's also because I didn't see any value in the fights that were being picked and thought they dragged on for way too long - primarily the whole row surrounding Korlat, each day with nothing new to add to it, and still keeping the brawlers so occupied that they failed to get out of their tunnel vision.

As such, I find it stunning that Korlat was lynched faster than Telas - and the only thing that really convinced me that there was something smelly to Korlat other than arrogance was the connection you made between Korlat and Galain - which the three piling on him failed to spot/provide.

I need some back-and-forth arguing based on content to play my best game and bounce my thoughts around, there's been little of that and far too little involving me - I think no-one up until today adressed me directly, for one. Which suited me because of work, though - so I didn't go looking for a confrontation myself.

edit for spelling.

This post has been edited by Mockra: 13 March 2009 - 01:31 PM

[Mockra]

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 04:14 PM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 08:53 AM, said:

Well, the three of us kinda agree on Tennes, should we try him?

try me? make a case and i can refute it, but tbh i'm never much of a very aggressive player. half the time my cases/calls are correct, but no one bothers to listen. i've learned that from the past few games, so i'm keeping my thoughts to myself for now.

that and i don't have very unique/zomg moment reads on anyone. >.>

Oh, so you're just along for the ride this time, and say your PMs to SH were correct when the game is over? That's odd.

[Tennes]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 09:22 AM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 03:14 PM, said:

half the time my cases/calls are correct, but no one bothers to listen. i've learned that from the past few games, so i'm keeping my thoughts to myself for now.

Don't make me cry

this probably gives away my alt, but i'm not good at disguising it anyway, so:
last game, had cases made on 2 scum, 1 managed to outlive me and another didn't get lynched until a finder reveal.
game before, had a long-ass case made on the last scum, who killed me that night when no one bothered to listen.

etc etc.

however, once i get the chance i might do a reread and see what i can scrounge up.

[Tennes]

@mockra: no, i also mentioned i didn't have any 'he's-definitely-scum' moments this game, and i haven't had a chance to do a reread. i might get around to it, but school's been busy and i'm a lazy fuck.

that and i started a week-long tv marathon involving 3 seasons of different shows.

[Mockra]

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 03:26 PM, said:

@mockra: no, i also mentioned i didn't have any 'he's-definitely-scum' moments this game, and i haven't had a chance to do a reread. i might get around to it, but school's been busy and i'm a lazy fuck.

that and i started a week-long tv marathon involving 3 seasons of different shows.

which ones?

Anyways, I think I will start a re-read. Not looking forward to it at ALL, but some things must be done. With some luck, I can finish it before tomorrow.

[Galayn Lord]

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

however, once i get the chance i might do a reread and see what i can scrounge up.

Any ETA on that re-read? Today could be an important day.

[Mockra]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 02:53 PM, said:

Well, the three of us kinda agree on Tennes, should we try him?

I would not be opposed to it, but would rather lynch Telas.

[Tennes]

Galayn Lord, on Mar 13 2009, 09:35 AM, said:

Tennes, on Mar 13 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

however, once i get the chance i might do a reread and see what i can scrounge up.

Any ETA on that re-read? Today could be an important day.

i'm actually at school right now, but once i get home (in about 4 or 5 hours) i'll start a reread.

@mockra: chuck, firefly, and reaper