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Posted 19 February 2009 - 10:40 PM
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:27 PM
If people can tell you come from the US then you have an American accent, obviously. So the statement that you have no accent at all is....inherently ridiculous. Everyone has an accent.
The only person who could be considered not to have an accent would be someone who was the sole speaker of a particular language because there would be no other voices to compare them against; and, again obviously, they would be deemed to have no accent only when speaking that language.
Denying you have an accent is like denying you have an idiolect; to quote Enrico Fermi, "It's not even wrong!"
My own accent is a mixture of Manc [South], Jamaican (not all that much of that one tbh but there are bits here and there; my mother was fairly strict about eliminating traces of the West Indies from her childrens' speaking patterns in the belief that it would hold us back in later life) and RP (public speaking lessons at my high school; the sole purpose of which seems to have been to eliminate any Northernisms from our diction...failed miserably of course)
The only person who could be considered not to have an accent would be someone who was the sole speaker of a particular language because there would be no other voices to compare them against; and, again obviously, they would be deemed to have no accent only when speaking that language.
Denying you have an accent is like denying you have an idiolect; to quote Enrico Fermi, "It's not even wrong!"
My own accent is a mixture of Manc [South], Jamaican (not all that much of that one tbh but there are bits here and there; my mother was fairly strict about eliminating traces of the West Indies from her childrens' speaking patterns in the belief that it would hold us back in later life) and RP (public speaking lessons at my high school; the sole purpose of which seems to have been to eliminate any Northernisms from our diction...failed miserably of course)
If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do. If some one maintains that two and two are five, or that Iceland is on the equator, you feel pity rather than anger, unless you know so little of arithmetic or geography that his opinion shakes your own contrary conviction. … So whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants. Bertrand Russell
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 11:43 PM
stone monkey, on Feb 19 2009, 11:27 PM, said:
RP (public speaking lessons at my high school; the sole purpose of which seems to have been to eliminate any Northernisms from our diction...failed miserably of course)
Still, we should applaud the effort and insist upon the implementation of even more rigorous courses in northern schools, in order to ensure higher success rates in future.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:29 AM
I dont really sound like any of these, I'm in the midwest so its kind of a mix between st. louis and the south, with less twang.
I've always been crazy but its kept me from going insane.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:34 AM
Southern Illinois sounds like Southern Indiana, which is basically Kentucky and Tennessean sounding. And, evidently I've learned today that "Hoosier" is a bad-name in St. Louis land.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:54 AM
So, they think an entire state is pure white trash? 
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 12:57 AM
No, it actually means about the same thing as redneck, bumpkin, etc. For some reason i just think its gotten worse over the years.
Found a sight for you.
http://www.indiana.e...ra/hoosier.html
Found a sight for you.
http://www.indiana.e...ra/hoosier.html
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:09 AM
Oh, there are all kinds of theories for the meaning of the name. Most popular is that Butternuts who moved into southern Indiana in their hillbilly accents said "who's there?" and it sounded like "Hoosier?"
Rednecks. Indiana is full of them, and I sound like one when drunk.
Rednecks. Indiana is full of them, and I sound like one when drunk.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:12 AM
Thelomen Toblerone, on Feb 19 2009, 11:43 PM, said:
Still, we should applaud the effort and insist upon the implementation of even more rigorous courses in northern schools, in order to ensure higher success rates in future.
If we all sounded like effete Southerners, there'd be no reason for you lot to go around thinking you're all special, would there?
If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do. If some one maintains that two and two are five, or that Iceland is on the equator, you feel pity rather than anger, unless you know so little of arithmetic or geography that his opinion shakes your own contrary conviction. … So whenever you find yourself getting angry about a difference of opinion, be on your guard; you will probably find, on examination, that your belief is going beyond what the evidence warrants. Bertrand Russell
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 01:17 AM
I get along with them real well. When I was down in the absolute sticks in Tennessee with some family, I was constantly told that I "wasn't half-bad for a Yank." Lol. You just have to be able to speak the language. Drop the g's in present progressive, pick up the ain't and your half way there.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:10 AM
Hoosier, you didn't know that Hoosier meant redneck in Missouri? Actually, not all of Missouri. I had never heard it used that way until I went to Mizzou and was around people from St Louis all the time. I don't think it even has any connection to thinking that people from indiana are rednecks. Not sure where it came from.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:12 AM
I had no clue it was used outside of referring to either Indiana natives or Indiana University.
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:13 AM
HoosierDaddy, on Feb 19 2009, 06:12 PM, said:
I had no clue it was used outside of referring to either Indiana natives or Indiana University.
Yep. As in, "Look at that Hoosier over there with the mullet and the El Camino."
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 02:16 AM
Sounds like what I'd hear around any resident trailer-parks around here.
Also, how did you know that was me?
Also, how did you know that was me?
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